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| Obama burnout?[Thread Closed/Derailed]
Posted: 8/6/2008 10:41:50 AM | I could see this happening.
But then again...I lie to pollsters.
Barack Obama may be the fresh face in this year's presidential election, but nearly half say they're already tired of hearing about him, a poll says.
With Election Day still three months away, 48 percent said they're hearing too much about the Democratic candidate, according to a poll released Wednesday by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center. Just 26 percent said the same about his Republican rival, John McCain.
Obama, the 47-year-old Illinois senator who would become the first black president, has dominated political news coverage much of the year. According to an ongoing Pew study, Obama has appeared in more news stories this year and more people say they have heard more about him than McCain, the longtime Arizona senator who also ran for president in 2000.
Two-thirds of Republicans and about half of independents said they've heard too much about Obama, as did a third of Democrats, a significant number.
At the same time, nearly four in 10 said they've been hearing too little about McCain — about four times the number who said so about Obama. About half of Republicans, four in 10 independents and even a quarter of Democrats said they've not heard enough about the GOP candidate.
The poll was conducted from Aug. 1-4 and involved telephone interviews with 1,004 adults. It had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
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On the Web:
Pew Research Center: http://people-press.org | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 10:53:37 AM | This is what happens when you start campaigning for President a year and a half before the actual election happens. I believe it was this April when there was a big gap between major democratic primaries (correct me if Im wrong on the date) and the news surrounding Obama was still gigantic. One entire month without a primary and Obamanation on every talkshow, news show newspaper STILL? It was actually kind of pathetic. Especially considering the housing bubble was bursting and we are seeing inflation in record amounts.
While I don't agree with McCain, or how he got the Republican nomination (media darling of the GOP anyone?) his campaign was built more to gain momentum then use it up early. Obamas seems more fit to gain that early lead and attempt to coast into office. Simply because of how often he is mentioned. This poll supports that assumption. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2008 11:53:10 AM | First, my apologies for the Username change but, I am hiding from a dude. Luckily he is not familar with the Forums..so, I am taking refuge in another name here on site.
As to Obama burnout... it was gonna happen. A given. Too much exposure. Kinda like heat exhaustion or sunburn. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 11:58:20 AM | Purple I can't keep up with all your usernames!
I agree with the above statement. But it makes me wonder about the attention span of the typical voter. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 12:03:29 PM | My guess is that the front runner for VP is Sen. Evan Bayh and our future President and VP will be holding "court" together.....bball court!
Once the VPs are selected, this will get a lot more interesting.
Obama wanted to get the name, the face, the word out there........all the hypers and spinners multiplied that by many times, all free advertisting........and now the media is saturated.
With a shared spotlight and new face, though.....it will revive.
""""Ten Things You Didn't Know About Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh
1. Born in Shirkieville, Ind., on Dec. 26, 1955, Birch Evans Bayh III is the child of Birch Evans Bayh Jr. and Marvella Hern.
2. Bayh's father, Birch, became a U.S. senator in 1962 and moved the family to Washington, where Evan attended St. Albans, a prestigious middle school and high school and a top choice among powerful Washingtonians. Fellow alumni include former Vice President Al Gore, Special Olympics chairman Timothy Shriver, journalists David Ignatius and Brit Hume, and astronaut Michael Collins.
3. Bayh received his undergraduate degree in business economics, with honors, from Indiana University in 1978, and a law degree from the University of Virginia in 1981. As an undergrad, he was a member of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity.
4. Encouraged by both of his parents, who both grew up on farms, to do physical labor, Bayh returned to Washington after his freshman year and spent the first of three summers in a union job, doing construction on the Metro, Washington's rail system.
5. In 1985, Bayh married Susan Breshears. Mrs. Bayh is a graduate of University of CaliforniaBerkeley and a 1984 USC Law graduate, and was a cheerleader. She held the beauty queen titles of Miss Southern California, Miss Pasadena, and Miss Glendale.
6. In 1988, at age 32, he became the first Democrat elected as Indiana's governor in 20 years, usurping the title of youngest governor from then Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton, who was, at the time, the youngest governor since 1938. (At 37, Gov. Bobby Jindal, a Republican from Louisiana, is currently the nation's youngest governor.)
7. In 1995, Evan and Susan became parents with the birth of twins Nick and Beau, making Bayh the first governor of Indiana since 1830 to do so while in office, and the first ever to become the father of twins.
8. In 1998, Bayh won one of the state's U.S. Senate seats. He won re-election in 2004 with 62 percent of the vote. He is known as a centrist who is able to connect with conservative voters. From 2001 to 2005, he was chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council.
9. Bayh tries to exercise daily, and enjoys running, tennis, and basketball. A true Hoosier, he had a basketball hoop installed in the governor's mansion's parking lot while governor of Indiana.
10. A fitness fanatic—he runs 5 miles six or seven days a week and often takes part in Indianapolis's annual half marathon—although Bayh admits to a weakness for barbecue and Dairy Queen.
Sources: The Courier-Journal (Louisville, Ky.); the Associated Press; The New Republic; Dayton Daily News (Ohio); Indianapolis Star; Evan Bayh: A Private Life in the Public Eye; CQ Weekly; Indianapolis Woman; visitshoremagazine.com | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 12:15:44 PM | Senator Bayh seems to be a solid and respected VP choice. I haven't heard anything which would give me pause to diss the man at all. Would be a good choice for Obama!
I think Paris Hilton might be a fun VP for McCain. She's keeping the entertainment value going. 
Must give credit where credit is due. Her new web video in response to McCain is true entertainment and witty. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 1:32:13 PM | I'm not seeing an Obama burnout at all. In fact, another poll had him with a fair lead last night:
Poll: Obama has slim national lead over McCain
By The Associated Press
Wednesday, August 6, 2008
(08-06) 13:06 PDT , (AP) --
THE RACE: The presidential race nationally
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THE NUMBERS
Barack Obama, 46 percent
John McCain, 41 percent
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OF INTEREST:
Obama's margin in the Time Magazine Poll is the same as it was in their June survey. The Democrat has 10-percentage-point leads among independents and women, while the two rivals are even among men. McCain is ahead by only 7 points with whites. Obama is seen as better able to handle the economy by 4 points, while McCain is seen as better able to manage the Iraq war by 15 points. Both represent small improvements for McCain since June.
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The Time Magazine Poll was conducted from July 31-Aug 4. It involved telephone interviews with 808 likely voters and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
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COMPLETE RESULTS: www.time.com | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 3:57:31 PM | Im still dumdfounded that this thread was not deleated by folks who prefer not to observe the fall of a fake... Good job, OP. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 5:26:51 PM | Everyone says Obama has a lead in the polls.
The only thing growing on Obama's end is Obama's ego. His ego is so overblown that someone needs to prick it with a pin to get him back to reality.
Burned out? I was burned out on Obama as soon as I heard the rock star chants and saw the Obama groupies swooning. Get real.
Running this country is serious business and we need a serious person for the job, not some fired up, legend in his own mind, speech giver to feed us a bedtime story about change. We need a man with hands on experience, who our enemies respect, who they and we take seriously. This isn't some high school pep rally.
Give us the real thing, not some phony substitute. We need McCain.
John McCain 2008
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 5:31:19 PM | | I am not concerned, no one is talking about McCain, because there is nothing to discuss, same old OLD retread. Obama is change, Obama is hope, Obama is exciting. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 5:42:32 PM | you just demonstrated one of peoples biggest arguments about this.
People DO want to hear McCain on the issues
People are sick of hearing about change and not speaking about substance | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 5:42:52 PM |
Im still dumdfounded that this thread was not deleated by folks who prefer not to observe the fall of a fake... Good job, OP.
It was. I started this same thread today. It was deleted.
I am sick of Obama, McCain and this entire presidential race. Every news channel is Obama,Obama, Obama, and McCain, McCain, McCain.But please lets not go back to Paris Hilton or Jessica Simpson. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 6:25:48 PM | YOU are NOT a capitalist. YOU are not a part of CAPITALISM. You do not BENEFIT from Capitalism!
Social programs help curb Capitalism from destroying our economy.
We do NOT have a Capitalist economy, we have a mixed economy, of which, Capitalism is the largest part. But, again, YOU ARE NOT A CAPITALIST! | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 6:26:29 PM | | Happens to """ Rock Stars""" all the time...I have noticed he is turning white. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 7:39:15 PM | FYI
I dont think many people really know much about Obama, but i liked this article in my home newspaper last year of his days here at Harvard and how he was perceived.
Learn about him, then decide if he's a fake. I dont see anything but genuineness in him and it seems that opinion is shared by everyone who;s known him.
"""""""By Michael Levenson and Jonathan Saltzman, Globe Staff | January 28, 2007
CAMBRIDGE -- It was just a five-on-five game between some law students at a Harvard gym, until someone jabbed a hard foul. An argument broke out, and pretty soon players were in one another's faces.
To the players who were on the court that day, it seemed punches were about to be thrown.
Then a skinny, soft-spoken forward with tight shorts and high socks named Barack Obama raced out from the sideline and put himself between two of the warring players.
"He said, 'Guys, this is not serious -- it's just a pickup game,' " recalled one of the players, Earl Martin Phalen, Harvard Law Class of 1993. Laughing, he added: "There was all this testosterone exploding, and he just kind of had perspective. . . . We ended up chilling it out."
These days, Obama is the hot new candidate for the White House, trying to end the warring in Washington with a warm message of unity and optimism. But years before taking that message to the national political stage, he was defusing battles large and small from the sharp-elbowed basketball games to the cutthroat classrooms at Harvard Law School.
Standing apart from others
Right from the start, when he arrived in the fall of 1988 at the age of 27, Obama seemed different. With his leather bomber jacket, tattered jeans, and pack of cigarettes, he was older and appeared less starchy than many of his fresh-faced classmates newly arrived from the Ivy League. He was also one of the small minority of black students on the campus of about 1,500 of the nation's most ambitious future lawyers, judges, and corporate executives.
Beyond his appearance, what set him apart was his approach to argument, the lifeblood of the law school and the constant occupation of the young lawyers-in-training. While other students were determined to prove the merits of their beliefs through logic and determination, Obama preferred to listen, seek others' views, and find a middle way.
"A lot of people at the time were just talking past each other, very committed to their opinions, their point of view, and not particularly interested in what other people had to say," said Crystal Nix Hines, a classmate who is now a television writer. "Barack transcended that."
He confronted his most charged debates as president of the Harvard Law Review, the exclusive club of 80 student editors and future Supreme Court justices who publish a regular journal of legal writings. Classmates recall an especially emotional debate in the spring of 1990 over affirmative action, which conservative students wanted to abolish.
Presiding over an assembly of 60 mostly white editors in a law school classroom, Obama listened to impassioned pleas and pressed conservatives to explain their reasoning and liberals to sharpen their thinking. But he never spoke about his own point of view or mentioned that he believed he had benefit ed from affirmative action.
"If anybody had walked by, they would have assumed he was a professor," said Thomas J. Perrelli, a classmate and former counsel to Attorney General Janet Reno. "He was leading the discussion but he wasn't trying to impose his own perspective on it. He was much more mediating."
Obama was so evenhanded and solicitous in his interactions that fellow students would do impressions of his Socratic chin-stroking approach to everything, even seeking a consensus on popcorn preferences at the movies. "Do you want salt on your popcorn?" one classmate, Nancy L. McCullough, recalled, mimicking his sensitive bass voice. "Do you even want popcorn?"
Obama, who declined to be interviewed for this story, lived all three years in the same basement apartment on Broadway in Somerville, near Winter Hill. He kept the place spotless and decorated it with second hand furniture.
"He was a model tenant," said John K. Holmes of Arlington, his landlord. "I can remember when he told me he was leaving, I can remember being disappointed."
He skipped most parties and made his friends in class, including one good buddy, Rob Fisher, a first-year student from Maryland, whom he met on the first day of classes. Obama called Fisher, who is white, "brother," and teased him about his raggedy clothes. They watched Bulls games . Both idolized Michael Jordan.
Even in his first year, students saw Obama as a peacemaker. When his class needed someone to present an end-of-the-year gift to one stuffy contracts professor, the students chose Obama, who delivered a brief, gracious tribute.
"It was a moment of diffused tension and levity," said Kenneth W. Mack, a Harvard Law School professor who was in Obama's class. "He pulled it off."
At the end of his first year, Obama joined the Law Review. He nearly missed the deadline to apply when his 1984 Toyota Tercel broke down, and beg ged Fisher for a ride and sweet - talk ed his way to the front of a line at the post office to have his envelope postmarked before noon.
"That's the one modest contribution I've made to his success," Fisher, now a Washington lawyer, said in a recent interview.
Obama won a slot on the review. He was growing more serious in his personal life, too. After casually dating women at the law school, he flew back to Chicago after his first year and met Michelle Robinson, a 1988 Harvard Law graduate, whom he later married.
Law review prestige
In the fall of 1989, when Obama returned to campus for his second year, students were protesting the lack of minority law school faculty. They staged sit-ins in the law library, camped outside the office of Dean Robert C. Clark, and carried signs that read "Diversity Now" and "Homogeneity Feeds Hatred." The tensions continued the following spring, reaching a high when Derrick A. Bell Jr., the first tenured black professor at the school, resigned in protest. Obama was a member of the Black Law Students Association, which organized many demonstrations that spring. But he was less confrontational than some of his peers.
"Barack was a stabilizing influence in that he would absolutely support those efforts, but was also someone who could discuss and debate them with students or faculty who had different views," said Professor Charles J. Ogletree Jr., who became Harvard's seventh tenured black professor in 1993.
In February 1990, when the time came to elect a new president of the law review, Obama was initially reluctant, said Nix Hines. The presidency seemed better suited for careerist types who were aiming for positions at top-flight law firms, Obama told her at the time. The son of a black Kenyan father and a white mother from Kansas, he wanted to return to his work in Chicago as a community organizer.
"I was surprised because I knew he was very popular and well-regarded and obviously had the ability to do the job," Nix Hines said.
But at a dinner at Obama's apartment, an older black student challenged Obama and other black students to compete for the job. "And I do remember Barack saying that was the moment he finally decided, 'I'm going to do this,' " said Mack.
The law review president's election is a fussy affair, part intellectual debate, part frat house ritual. Obama was one of 19 candidates. As the 61 editors not running for the job debated the merits of the candidates behind closed doors on a Sunday morning in late February, the hopefuls cooked them breakfast, lunch, and dinner . Every few hours, the editors winnowed the list further, until just after midnight, when only Obama and a 24-year-old Harvard graduate named David Goldberg remained contenders .
At about 12:30 a.m., the editors called Obama into the room, told him he had won, and broke into applause. Mack, another black editor, pulled Obama in for a hug.
"It was a hard hug, and it lasted a while," Obama told the Harvard Law Record, the school newspaper, at the time. "At that point, I realized this was not just an individual thing. . . but something much bigger."
Obama gained instant fame, was profiled glowingly in newspapers across the country, and landed a contract for a book that would become "Dreams from My Father," his best-selling memoir.
There was buzz on campus, too. Blair Underwood, the actor who played a black lawyer on L.A. Law, one of the campus' s favorite shows, came to visit Obama at the Law Review and took him out for a Chinese food banquet. People who had helped pave the way were also moved.
"You should not underestimate the significance of him being the first black president of the Harvard Law Review because that was and remains a very elite group," said Bell, now a law professor at New York University. "These were some tough folks. . . . It's almost as impressive that he was elected president of the Harvard Law Review as him being elected senator of Illinois."
As editor for two semesters, Obama spent 50 to 60 hours a week holed up in a second-floor office of Gannett House, a 19th century building overlooking Cambridge Common. He reviewed hundreds of articles, on topics ranging from corporate law to racial bias in auto pricing, and presided over long, heated debates in the cluttered first-floor lounge.
"Even though he was clearly a liberal, he didn't appear to the conservatives in the review to be taking sides in the tribal warfare," said Bradford A. Berenson, a former Bush administration lawyer who was an editor at the review.
"The politics of the Harvard Law Review were incredibly petty and incredibly vicious," Berenson said. "The editors of the review were constantly at each other's throats. And Barack tended to treat those disputes with a certain air of detachment and amusement. The feeling was almost, come on kids, can't we just behave here?"
A polished leader
Sometimes he sounded like he was already running for public office, giving studied, measured responses in interviews with The Harvard Law Record. Asked in 1991 if he could do one thing differently in his last year at the Review, Obama said, "I don't know that it was possible to do it any other way than I did it, but I would have liked to have had the luxury of being more strategic about my tenure."
Basketball was his outlet. He played often at Hemenway, the law school gymnasium, just off Harvard Square. Hill Harper, a classmate and frequent defender, said Obama, who stands about 6 feet 1 inch tall, had a quick first step and could easily sink midrange jump shots. "If there was any knock against Barack, he pulled his socks up a little too high and his shorts were a little too small," Harper said, laughing. "We were just at the beginning of the Michael Jordan era. He more harkened back to the Julius Erving era."
Some students got their first glimpse of Obama, the orator, in the spring of 1991, when the Black Law Students Association broke with tradition and asked him, rather than a renowned judge or professor, to deliver the keynote address at the association's annual conference. Standing before hundreds , Obama gave what classmates recall as a stirring call to action.
"It was a clarion call," recalled Randall L. Kennedy, a law school professor who attended the conference. "We've gotten this education, we've gotten this great halo, this great career-enhancing benefit. Let's not just feather our nests. Let's go forward and address the many ills that confront our society."
Now that he's traveling the country as a full-fledged presidential candidate, Obama is clearly proud of his training at Harvard, and he is remembered proudly here.
From the landlord who showed him his $700 a month apartment to the learned professors who mentored him, everyone seems to recall him as an exceptionally conscientious young man.
But in some ways, he was just a typical, forgetful grad uate student. Records from Somerville show that he still owes the city $72.63 in excise taxes and $45 in late penalties on two parking violations.
The bright, young law student parked illegally in a bus stop in 1990 and illegally in a street-sweeping zone in 1991.
"I kind of kidded with the mayor and said, "If he comes to Somerville, he might get booted,' " said Walter Pero, a city alderman.""" | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 8:07:37 PM | I wouldn't look at this study as Obama burnout. I would look at this study as a lack of tolerance for faux journalism and sensationalism.
America is in deep trouble. People have real problems. All the hullabaloo in the news about obama is about whether he is uppity, elitist, an angry black man, etc etc.
These are not real issues. This is garbage. Who wouldn't get tired of this. People want to hear about the policies that he is pushing. that gets less coverage than his supposed elitism.
Another recent poll says that Obama is receiving much more negative reporting about him by news organizations than McCain. maybe this is what people are tired of?
I think your assumption that people are tired of Obama is wrong. People are tired of garbage journalism and character assasination while the ship is sinking. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 8:25:29 PM |
They fell all over themselves to cover his overseas trip, which was a big PR stunt
McCain challenged him to go to Iraq... so he did.
McCain shot himself in the foot.
For that reason alone, I hope he doesn't become president. He has a habit of doing that. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 8:51:23 PM | renaissance man,
obama belongs to a marxist christian church. marxist church? oxymoron?
in any case, you are dead wrong.
obama has ties to radicals who want to destroy this country.
wrong again.
as for the press:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,712999.story
During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.
Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.
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it would be easy enough to be a republican. we could just say that mccain is uppity because he's multimillionaire with 9 homes and $500 shoes.
we would say that mccain is a misogynist because he called his wife a c*nt, offered her up in a constest for bikers, tells jokes about gorillas raping women and them liking it, cheated on his wife beforing dumping her for a younger gal.
i could claim that these are legitimate character issues. but it's not pertinent to the problems that we face as americans.
unfortunately, the republicans have much less scruples and even less successful solutions.
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/6/2008 9:22:17 PM | At least McCain didn't sit quietly, while his wife went onto t.v. defending his boning an intern. Where was the leftie concern about how women are treated, then???
What a joke. Talk about being outta gas.
The Paris ad was funny. It highlighted what a dipsh.. she is....and proved McCain's point at the same time....a real twofer. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/7/2008 5:32:37 AM | Every time I turn on the TV -- there he is -- Obama!
Flip the channel -- there he is -- Obama!
Flipt it again -- there he is -- Obama!
Try to watch Bloomberg in the morning so I can work, but -- there he is -- Obama!
Can't even watch my Beloved Fox News anymore, because -- there he is -- Obama!
Open up the I-Net to MSN.com, and -- there he is -- Obama!
Move On. org -- there he is -- Obama!
Even the Druge Report, but -- there he is -- Obama!
Open the Newspaper, and sure enough -- there he is -- Obama!
Go to the Dentist (ouch!) Pick up a mag in the waiting room -- there he is -- Obama! (ouch again!)
Night mare last night, and -- there he is -- Obama!
You can run -- but you cannot hide!
See -> 
'Cause --- (you know the rest!)
'Little over-exposure, maybe?
Thank God for the Cartoon Network! Where I can at least see SpongeBob! | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/7/2008 10:49:18 AM | | Swat him on the nose with the paper when he soils the ground of our residence? | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/7/2008 11:56:55 PM | same old OLD retread = Obama is change, Obama is hope, Obama is exciting.
Yup! Same old retread, all right -- Obama. Obama is change, Obama is hope, Obama is exciting.
Translation = You got nuthin'!
I am not concerned, no one is talking about McCain
I am not concerned that the LIBERAL MEDIA is not giving McCain any coverage.
'Cause we Republicans have QUIETER ways of getting things done.. heh heh heh.
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/8/2008 12:11:48 AM | | He's not burnout. His ego is too big for that. He was bruised after Hillary was done with him. McCain allowed him to recuperate. Obama fell apart after the first phase of ads, the Paris Hilton/ Britany Spears knocked him of his high horse. The MSM had to attack McCain for him, particularly Tom Brokaw and Bob Schieffer. Because Obama couldn't and can't play in the major leagues. | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/8/2008 1:25:24 AM |
Because Obama couldn't and can't play in the major leagues.
They said that about Jackie Robinson , too.  | |
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| Obama burnout?
Posted: 8/8/2008 8:00:01 PM | | I stated this on another forum. If McCain and ex-Hillary fans are tired of Obama, please stop talking about him so much. The pro-McCain sights are fading fast. | |
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