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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:08:49 PM | If we can talk freely about John Edwards infidelity, we can talk freely about McCain’s infidelity. So here’s his story, in a nutshell:
While McCain was in the military, his first wife has a horrible car accident, leaving her a cripple.
When McCain gets posted stateside, he can’t stand the sight of her and starts screwing a wealthy heiress, his current wife.
In fact, McCain leaves his crippled wife so high and dry, her medical bills have to be picked up by family friends.
McCain divorces his wife and leaves his three kids for his current wife Cindy. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:21:21 PM | Good freakin grief. I think most people said that there is no difference in the party affiliation, it's the action that's wrong, and then some of us also said it was wrong to be nosing into these politician's private sex lives. And so you have to go and start yet another tasteless thread in retaliation?
We all need to get out more and step away from the computer and get real lives...
Does anyone that posts and reads forums here ever actually date anyone?
Just wondering.. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:29:32 PM | | Not retaliation, Southy, it's just an emphasis on the okay-ness of moral decay as long as you're a republican. That's the difference I want to emphasize. And like the big list of McCain's flip-flops I gave you, I can give you an even LONGER list of general republican depravity, if you want the challenge. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:31:52 PM | When McCain gets posted stateside, he can’t stand the sight of her and starts screwing a wealthy heiress, his current wife.
It was my understanding that he had multiple affairs before he left his first wife. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:40:31 PM | mtloophiker......
Your statements are not true about McCain leaving his wife high and dry and her medical bills being picked up by family friends. As part of the divorce settlement, McCain has to pay her medical bills for the rest of her life, in addition to giving her alimony for as long as she lives. Also, McCain and first wife had two homes .... the first wife definitely got one of those homes and I think, but I am not sure, that she even got the second home. Additionally, she got the family car and the family bank account.
The above is one of the reasons the first Mrs. McCain has nothing bad to say about her ex-husband. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:41:20 PM | | trailviews, I've heard of that one also. but I only kept to the unarguable truth: John McCain's infidelity to and abandonment of his crippled first wife was far worse than John Edwards' infidelity, but McCain gets excused because he's a republican. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:45:20 PM | marieleah, you embellish the truth.
H. Ross Perot picked up McCain's crippled wife's medical bills, took care of both her and the three kids when McCain abandoned them. The divorce agreement came AFTERWARDS. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:49:40 PM | Southernlass......
You are right .... we all need to get away from our computers and get out into the real world and interact face-to-face with people.
In answer to your question does anyone who posts and reads forums here ever actually date anyone? Not me! ..... had an accident and have been out of commission for the last year ..... but "hope springs eternal in this breast" ..... saw the doctor Wednesday and I am okay. So, going out tomorrow night and look for someone to date, because I sure as heck am not going to find someone on this site. Wish me luck in finding the man of my dreams.  | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:53:11 PM | mtloophiker .....
I am not embellishing the truth ..... I don't know about Ross Perot, but it is a fact that McCain's first wife has no problems with medical bills since ex-husband has to pay them along with alimony. Of course, the divorce agreement came AFTERWARDS, (your capitalization) ..... one needs to get divorced FIRST, then the agreement comes AFTERWARDS.
Additionally, both McCain and Edwards' behavior are unexcusable. One had a wife who had been in an auto accident that disfigured her; the other has a wife dying of cancer. You cannot say McCain behaved the worst. Actually, he could use the excuse that he was a POW for seven years and came back to a woman who looked nothing like the woman he married. Of course, Edwards can use the excuse .... hey my wife is dying ..... I have to line up wife number two. That is what is being reported on the cable tv news --- that Hunter is waiting for Elizabeth to die so she and Edwards can get married. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:53:51 PM | McCain's affair has not received notoriety? Where you been hiding??
It was on the News... heavily... even years after it took place. Note when his affair happened.
And, it's been in court here on this site on threads. There were many many pages on it recently. Links, etc. etc.
Even the debate on what the first Mrs received. And, yes, she got all that has bes,en mentioned here in this thread. She and John remained friends. And, it was not like Edwards deal because John McCain did not deny it at all.
Plus, now the trail is possibly leading back to Edwards using campaign money to pay for his lover, the baby,..and, the guy Edwards hired to pretend to be the baby's father. The dude..the one Edwards hired.. is being compensated, as the story goes right now, with a million plus dollar residence, etc. As is Edward's mistress and baby. All in the same general gated communities. Quite cozy huh.
If this had been a Republican in present day... (most News Outlets are in agreement on this) .. this would not have been kept undercover for 2 years. Edwards and the Democrats couldn't buy off the National Inquirer...like they can the media.
Before long the National Inquirer will be a well respected magazine since so many of their 'breaking stories' turn out to be based in truth now. They were sued enough in the past that they do their best to dot their i and cross their t...
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Just saw your post marie... you go get em! Find your dream dude!! Here's wishing you the very very best! | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:53:52 PM | Even if it were true, it would still be dispicable, leave crippled wife for young beer heiress, use new rich babe's money to pay off crippled wife's medical bills in return for long political career. . .
It is a serious character flaw in both men. . . I think both were reprehensible, but McCain does seem to get a lot of free passes on these things; affair, keating five, anger, etc. Not sure that JE would get the same free pass. We'll see. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:55:57 PM |
McCain's affair has not received notoriety? Where you been hiding??
It was on the News... heavily... even years after it took place. Note when his affair happened.
Not where I'm at...
Maybe it got buried somewhere... by the right wing biased press.
Also, many people don't know that George W. Bush was the first US president to ever have been arrested before taking office... or the Dick Cheney was the first VICE-president to ever have been arrested before taking office...
Small wonder they turned out to be the disgrace to the nation they are.
To those of you who still think the US press has a liberal bias: It only appears that way if you have your head in a long narrow isolated space...where no light shines. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 9:57:54 PM | Fortunately, purplecrayon, John Edwards and his infidelity is not running for president, but John McCain IS.
I bet the vast majority of people voting for him don't even know McCain has a "first wife" at all, not to mention ANY of the circumstances of the split. THAT's what the Republican Party is terrified of -- that all this concentration on Edwards will make McCain's past, which is far worse, FAIR GAME. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 10:03:24 PM |
I bet the vast majority of people voting for him don't even know McCain has a "first wife" that he left while she was crippled.
McCain is not an unknown like Obama. I bet most, if not all, of McCain Supporters know about the first Mrs.
John McCain has been in Congress for 20 plus years. The American Public knows him well.
McCain has been 'fair game' already for many years. This is the problem Obama has... what else will come out about Obama? We already have the Wright association, the Chicago gangsters, the dope use by Obama. More and more will come to light and even these issues already stated will come into play again.
As for McCain... watch what happens when his past comes up... Noone will pay much attention at all because it's all been hashed out over and over during his career path. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 10:05:42 PM | purple crayon .....
Thanks for the encouragement and best wishes .... I need it ..... haven't been out for a year.
I concur with all you say. By the way Andrew Young, the guy Edwards hired to claim he fathered the baby is not only living in a 5.4 million dollar residence, he is also receiving thousands of dollars every month from the lawyer who was the head of Edwards' campaign funding. And Edwards' mistress, Hunter, is living in a 3 million dollar residence and receiving 15 thousand dollars a month from the same lawyer. The National Inquirer believes the money the lawyer is giving these two is either coming from Edwards' personal fortune or possibly from campaign contributions Edwards received. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 10:07:28 PM | exodusi1 .....
McCain is not using Cindy's money to pay his ex-wife's medical bills. Before McCain married Cindy, he signed a pre-nuptial agreement. Also, Cindy and John keep their finances separate. He cannot touch her money. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 10:12:09 PM | Purple Crayon, keep thinking those positive thoughts, but I'll bet that the average Republican voter ---
1. Does not know that McCain graduated near the bottom of his air force class;
2. Wrecked more airplanes than anyone else in the service that was not kicked out;
3. Had a dad AND granddad who were admirals (which explains #2)
4. Voted and campaigned against the MLK holiday
5. Voted against better medical care for veterans
6. Was against better educational bennies for veterans
7. Hardly ever shows up for work
8. Called his wife (the new one) a c unt in front of reporters
9. Can't remember shit.
10. And Oh, yeah, cheated on his first wife because she was a cripple. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 10:14:49 PM | marie notes
Before McCain married Cindy, he signed a pre-nuptial agreement. Also, Cindy and John keep their finances separate. He cannot touch her money.
But he can sure touch her private jet for campaigns. And their eight houses. And that one aide he was sweet on in 2000..... | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 10:14:57 PM | Riiiiiigggggghhhhhhhtttt!
Does it really matter?
He cheated on his wife, left her when she was crippled, and it is swept under the rug, he is running for President.
But, JE's marriage is in tact, despite his dispicable affair, and his career is over?
Nice double standard! | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 11:28:34 PM |
it's just an emphasis on the okay-ness of moral decay as long as you're a republican. That's the difference I want to emphasize
That's the part I find sadly ironic. McCain's heralded as a nominee for president from republicans, the same people who crucified Clinton for his shortcomings. It's a double-edged sword and I hope McCains infidelity comes to surface more as this campaign begins to unfold. It's like Exodus said earlier in another thread....
They forgive Dubya for being AWOL, condemn Kerry for earning three purple hearts and mimick all vets with purple band aids
WHEN are people going to be held responsible for having double standards.
Doesn't karma ever play a part in any of this? Or is that yet to come.
ANYONE>>>>>>>>>>> IS it 2008 yet?  | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/8/2008 11:46:59 PM |
That's the part I find sadly ironic. McCain's heralded as a nominee for president from republicans, the same people who crucified Clinton for his shortcomings. It's a double-edged sword and I hope McCains infidelity comes to surface more as this campaign begins to unfold. It's like Exodus said earlier in another thread....
You didn't respect it when the Republicans did it to Clinton and they were wrong to do it to begin with. So why on earth would you think it's all right for the Democrats to now get down on that same bottom-feeder level?
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/9/2008 12:37:00 AM | Lass, I think's it's bottom -feeding to hold MCCains hand knowing he's been unscrupulous, all-the-while, criticizing others for the same immoral acts. Good people do bad things. I get that. But it was dispicable what happened to B.bClinton. Sometimes, you can only fight fire with fire. 2 wrongs don't make a right, but when enough wrong happens, and no one does anything to retaliate, it somehow makes doing wrong easier and accepted. (I hope some of this makes sense cause it's really not making sense to me right now)
It's the continual spin the right tends to put on things of this nature, that double standard that always makes me go "huh? do what? " From Kerry's swiftboaters, to Dubyas pardon, to cheney and dubya both criticizing a 3heart war vet, while they both stayed stateside like pvssies. I dont' think what's happening to JE is right, but at the same time, I think EVERY mcCain voter ought to know his past, and his capabilities, because I know a majority of them (his support block) looked down their nose at Clinton and cheered while watching the demise he had to go through.
Along those same lines, I also think it's MORE..... than appropriate to crucify Bush, Cheney, and COMPANY.... for their ilk. They have so fckd us, it'll take years to get anywhere near where we once were. | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/9/2008 1:03:11 AM | Well, I hear what you're saying, Mane, but it's just sad that we can be so caught up that we're actually cheering the wrongful demise of another, just because we want to win and we're a member of a particular party. Doesn't seem ethical either to get down on a level one knows is wrong and utterly rejects, in order to pay someone back or achieve some goal desired. Is it really worth betraying your own conscience and soul?
Yes, it was despicable what was done to Bill Clinton and I abhorred that. I was extremely upset about it as I watched it all go down on television. I knew they were wrong for doing it, and it taught me how unattractive that kind of behavior is, and in many ways it was just as immoral as what Bill was caught doing. As for McCain's past, if anyone has been doing any kind of reading in the politics forum at all, or exploration of the candidate of their choice, then they already realize what's been written about McCain's first marriage.
The thing is, we're not going to marry these men or women in office. We are, on the other hand, expecting them to get a job done, that most are being paid well to do and to do honorably. We still need to realize though, that none of these men or women are going to be above reproach, and that they are all capable of falling from grace, and of screwing it up royally. Think of the pressures of these kinds of jobs as well. And these people do deserve some degree of privacy enough to have at least a private sex life, just as we all do, don't they? Are the public really supposed to be judge and jury over someone's bedroom life? Should they be feeding on the gory details of people's dysfunctional messes? Seems highly inappropriate to me..
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/9/2008 1:12:29 AM |
I bet the vast majority of people voting for him don't even know McCain has a "first wife" at all, not to mention ANY of the circumstances of the split.
I'm a news junkie and I never heard the story until McCain became a candidate. Until he tossed his hat in the ring, I had no reason to know, or care about his private persona. But I'll bet I'm going to hear a lot more. But I'd sure like to hear it from McCain's own mouth instead of his seconds' soundbites. Just like the press descended like locusts on John Edwards, do you seriously think McCain will ever be swarmed like that? Not in my lifetime and I truly hope that doesn't happen and I regret is happened to Edwards as well.
The EU is laughing it's ass off because this country even wastes precious time with private (yes PRIVATE) sexual concerns and I don't blame them. To them, we must look like 80 year old spinsters when it comes to sex but we're obsessed with it...not only OUR sexual habits but we're nosy enough to "need to know" about everyone else's. I thought I saw the last of the in junior high school but it only gets progressively worse. But I digress.
McCain is not an unknown like Obama.
And this means what, exactly? They were both "known"; just one longer than the other. So what? We knew McCain's printed history yes. His "resume" if you will. But few people focused on his character before he said "world, here I am". No one knew about his peccadillos until he entered the race. His flip flop history wasn't really brought to the public's attention. I never knew of his family history. I didn't know he had admirals all up the line in his lineage. But we're even. He never knew there are piano players in my family. Who knew. For McCain, a C student at the naval academy, that must've really put him under the gun. No pressure there LOL. No wonder he's angry all the time.
He, and of course, I'm guessing here, probably wanted all his life to be in Vaudeville (I mean, let's face it, he's corney as hell but, giving the devil his do, he does have somewhat of a sense of humor; something terribly lacking in most of his contemporaries if you ask me).
I did know he was and still is "married to the.." oil "..... mob". His speech on youtube documents where he's coming from quite well. He stated in that public speech that he's 95% in support of everything Bush has done. Now of course, according to McCain, he's his own man, a maverick. Utter bullshit. Just more disingenuous fodder for the masses.
Far too many have drunk the kool-aid. Obama is, to an extent an unknown. He IS young. He IS inexperienced. But he is also an incredibly bright man who, when compared to Bush's public oratory definitely WOULD make Obama SEEM like the messiah in comparison. That's a no-brainer. He IS half black and half white, but, to my way of thinking, he's a much needed moderate shade of gray that we all (yes you righties too) need right no. Cut him some slack. But what I DO know about him is what he ISN'T. That's good enough for me. More than good enough. But take heart, once he gets into the White House, which he will, he will have his feet held to the fire like no other president in history and for all the wrong reasons. People will be on him like white on rice if he screws up or lets this country down and believe me, if that happens, I'll be the first in line and it won't be pretty.
But, for our purposes right now, if you don't cut Obama some slack and we don't cut McCain some slack and focus on what we believe they really want to do with sound reasoning behind it, we, in this forum, are simply pissing in the wind on a daily basis and a total and complete waste of time. I for one see no further value in it...not for me anyway. It's far too tiresome.
10. And Oh, yeah, cheated on his first wife because she was a cripple.
But aside from all that, he's a TRUE AMERICAN HERO after all is said and done ROTFLMAO
But he can sure touch her private jet for campaigns. And their eight houses.
And McNuts has the temerity to even SUGGEST Obama is an elitist? Jesuschristonastick. What ever happened to the the English language and the true meaning of words?
So why on earth would you think it's all right for the Democrats to now get down on that same bottom-feeder level?
Good question. I truly believe the democrats will NOT INITIATE any dirty character wars but I can promise you they will defend against them in ways that might make McCain look very ugly in the public eye. McCain does NOT NOT NOT WANT TO GO THERE (and I hope he's reading this thread because it's good advice. The democratic partry, considering the crappy shape this country has been suffering can NOT afford to stand there like a good christian and continue to turn the other cheek. If McCain is to win, he has to convince people that he's not just more of the same because if he can't (and he damned sure won't accomplish that by trying unsuccessfully to take Obama down 'cause that just ain't gonna happen) then he's going to lose. I wish 'em both the best of luck.
We've ALL seen this stuff rolls off Obama's back like a duck. Don't you get it? He's mastered the response which of course must infuriate McCain no end. I'd be willing to bet his blood pressure right about now is through the roof and, as of this moment, I haven't even seen Obama break a sweat. Don't you relish the Zen of this whole scenario? | |
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| John McCain’s Infidelity No Longer Taboo
Posted: 8/9/2008 1:19:11 AM |
But, for our purposes right now, if you don't cut Obama some slack and we don't cut McCain some slack and focus on what we believe they really want to do with sound reasoning behind it, we, in this forum, are simply pissing in the wind on a daily basis and a total and complete waste of time. I for one see no further value in it...not for me anyway. It's far too tiresome.
What an incredibly profound comment here, Blues. A truly important observation you've made. And I will think on it and try and apply it in the future. | |
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