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 blakeman1973

Joined: 8/11/2008
Msg: 1
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 8/16/2008 6:02:48 PM
Brock lesnar,former all american college wrestler and wwe superstar or Tim Sylvia?Who do you think would win if they faced each other in the octagon?Feel free to give opinions and insight on the matter.
 Peacethx

Joined: 3/24/2008
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Posted: 8/17/2008 1:11:29 PM
I think Lesnar is a pile of steroids. Tim Sylvia is inconsistent in his performance. I know its a fantasy match up ..but i would like to see George St. Pierre vs Lesnar. Heck, I am sure the BJ Penn could nail Lesnar even at 155.

But seriously, I would put Kimbo against Lesnar, or Anderson Silva. I guess you get the idea I dont think much of Lesnar. Steroid goons are not fighters.
 dwayne88

Joined: 6/8/2008
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Posted: 8/17/2008 2:20:52 PM

I think Lesnar is a pile of steroids.


Prove he is currently using.


Tim Sylvia is inconsistent in his performance.


Inconsistant? More like a pile of garbage.

Boring garbage at that.


And Kimbo against Lesnar? Kimbo wouldn't last 3 minutes.


And how is he a steroid good? He is a legit wrestler.
 Loganbucky

Joined: 1/28/2008
Msg: 4
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 8/17/2008 7:03:49 PM
First off my favorite Fighter is Forrest Griffin thought I 'd throw that out there steroids you dumbass they test beforehand you know the weight ins before the fight yeah they also pee in a cup for test

Brock is still learning but definitely a massive contender and once he gets comfortable in the competitors fully I think about once he learns techniques and feels more comfortable with his abilities and chills but still the monster like mentality he has a chance to be ultimately dominant

He's a true wrestling all American at Minnesota you idiot He's just an unique massive athletic freak pure powerhouse

Kimbo would killed by EVERYONE IN THE UFC
 Hookme2009

Joined: 6/1/2008
Msg: 5
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 8/19/2008 11:16:33 AM
You never know, but I would put my money on Lesnar, within 2 years this guy will destroy anyone in his path.
 Optimistic for 2008

Joined: 5/2/2008
Msg: 6
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 8/19/2008 5:20:42 PM
I don't like when a UFC fighter acts like he's in fake wrestling.....which was Brock in his last fight.....acting like a good at the end..

But I do agree that with in two years if not less he will kill everyone in the division..

Kimbo couldn't beat a lightweight in the UFC....he's a freak show MMA could do without..
 Hookme2009

Joined: 6/1/2008
Msg: 7
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 8/20/2008 10:25:50 AM
Lesnar did that because week before Herring was running his mouth too much. People do not get it but UFC is in some ways just like "fake" wrestling. Example, just like in Wrestling, people want to watch superstars, not boring fighters, and the promos the fighters do are pretty much out of wrestling, and half the MMA legends have done pro wrestling, whether it be here in the states or Japan.
 Hookme2009

Joined: 6/1/2008
Msg: 8
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 8/20/2008 10:27:59 AM
Also I laugh at people who rip on Kimbo, yeah he is not that experienced in MMA at this point, but he would whip any of our asses, including Mr. Dana White.
 Loganbucky

Joined: 1/28/2008
Msg: 9
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 8/20/2008 1:39:59 PM
Kimbo is a glorified street fighter he needed money for his family or something some guy with a camera recorded it put it on "You Tube" and the overrated phenomenon Kimbo was invented. Kimbo is just a publicity stunt to get Elite XC on the map and who could blame them he sells tickets and brings people to their feet , but his techniques and his wrestling abilities and his all-around skills are not comparable to anyone in HIS weight class. Kimbo Slice is nothing but a thud with cameras on him.

At least Brock Lesnar is a collegian All-American phenomenon at the University of Minnesota forget that he was in entertainer for Ward wrestling entertainment he is still a legitimate world class wrestler. Maybe he's not a specialist in wrestling but he definitely without a doubt can ground and pound because of his unique size, and collegiate wrestling skills. Only poisoned his advantage. The one good thing about being in world wrestling entertainment he's used to the travel it is not shy away from media attention.

I do think is biggest advantage is not his wrestling abilities but his unique size and strength. Mixed martial arts has nothing to do with the entertainment of WWE sure they both have promotions and try to sell their athletes. But who wouldn't for you even remotely saying WWE and the UFC has has something in common makes you simply idiotic in my opinion comparing the sports or entertainments is stupidity. There is nothing fake about mixed martial arts or its affiliation. They hold press conferences in public to excite and put meaning and yes this is a promotion but boxing does it. Dana White is a promoter, that is what he does he is a great businessman and he is an architect of MMA he brought mixed martial arts to the rest of the world, signing the first free cable deal to show live fights.
 adru1028

Joined: 7/8/2007
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Posted: 8/20/2008 3:39:33 PM
Let's keep in mind that Kimbo had around 15 fights with chumps prior to the big ppv fight. Brock would manhandle Kimbo. Let's also keep in kind that Lesnar was thrown into the fire with quality opponents from the jump. Once his skills are honed a bit more he will more than likely have a belt.
 AF36

Joined: 7/21/2005
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Posted: 8/20/2008 11:56:13 PM
Between Lesner and Silvia....Lesner hands down....Best ever was Dan Severn 70-13-7,
im also a big fan of Frank Mir and of course Randy Couture
 Hookme2009

Joined: 6/1/2008
Msg: 12
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Posted: 8/21/2008 6:14:09 AM
Just look at Shamrock and Ortiz, built up just like WWE match with the trash talk and the pull aparts on TUF, and look at the ratings it did.
 Benjamin1075

Joined: 7/27/2008
Msg: 13
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 8/21/2008 9:10:38 AM
I'll take Brock over a lot of other heavyweights out there. I think Big Nog and Fedor would eat his lunch, but Tim Sylvia would get crushed by Brock.
 adru1028

Joined: 7/8/2007
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Posted: 8/21/2008 9:38:21 AM
Libra, Im not certain anyone can hang with Fedor at this point in time.
 Benjamin1075

Joined: 7/27/2008
Msg: 15
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 8/21/2008 9:58:24 AM
I think Big Nog could (maybe), but that's about it. I know he's already lost to Fedor, but I think he'd give him a good fight.
 AdamMMA

Joined: 3/2/2008
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Posted: 8/26/2008 7:19:11 AM
I have been waiting for Fedor vs Josh Barnett for ages, think Barnett could also give Fedor a run for his money.

If anyone's interested Fedor is rumoured to be fighting Satoshi Ishii this New Years Eve (Ishii took Judo gold medal in the +100kg category at Olympics). I'm not sure how true this is...
 Benjamin1075

Joined: 7/27/2008
Msg: 17
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 8/26/2008 2:00:29 PM
If Barnett beats Arlovski at the next Affliction event, maybe we'll finally see him fight Fedor sometime next year!
 diggerchick

Joined: 5/7/2008
Msg: 18
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 9/20/2008 4:36:20 AM
i put bets on tim syvia
 omans009

Joined: 4/6/2007
Msg: 19
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 9/20/2008 1:49:56 PM
Tim has zero chance in beating brock.
 spitfire6844

Joined: 6/30/2007
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Posted: 9/20/2008 9:25:47 PM
Brock would smash Tim via wrestling skill and athleticism. He wouldn't even have to worry about Tim submitting him on the ground, and he would definitely take Tim down repeatedly. It would go to a lopsided decision in Brock's favor, much like the Heath Herring fight did.
 Hurricane J

Joined: 3/19/2006
Msg: 21
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 9/22/2008 4:42:20 AM

i would like to see George St. Pierre vs Lesnar. Heck, I am sure the BJ Penn could nail Lesnar even at 155.


LMAO! Serious?
 cajun_buddah

Joined: 6/24/2008
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Posted: 9/22/2008 6:43:10 AM
First off Sylvia is no longer in the UFC. He is now fighting with Affliction and was destroyed a few months back by Fedor Emelianenko, the best HW and fighter in the world.

As for Kimbo he would be utterly destroyed by Lesnar. Lesnar easily defeated Herring who is a much, much more accomplished fighter than James Thompson, whom controled Kimbo on the ground in their fight. The stand ups were horrible, so that Kimbo would stand a better chance of winning. He is a tough street fighter, he lacks legit MMA skills.

Although new to the sport, Lesnar has freakish size and strenght for a HW. He is also a near world class wrestler, he would easily beat Kimbo in less than one round.
 thenextcharlesdera

Joined: 3/1/2009
Msg: 23
UFC Heavyweights:who is better
Posted: 6/25/2009 6:25:58 PM
i think tim would lose
 Blue Eyes 1982

Joined: 5/2/2009
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Posted: 6/27/2009 8:37:49 PM
I hate to say it because I am not a big fan of Lesner, but I don't see Tim winning this one. Lesner is just a monster! I don't see anyone getting the upper hand on him for a while, unless it is by submission.
 CChauncey

Joined: 5/22/2009
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Posted: 6/28/2009 1:53:19 PM
Ray took the fight on two days notice. It was a bad matchup for Tim. That's the thing about MMA, matchups. At the end of his UFC days, Tim had become a sloppy boxer using his reach to win fights on points. Terrible. He is very vulnerable to superior punchers. Not sure if Brock has the same skills to exploit this particular weakness. So inside the Octagon, with a belt on the line, not sure who I would bet my money on, a motivated Tim Sylvia or Brock Lesnar.

BTW, Brock has been busted for steroids before.
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