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9-year-old boy told he's too good to pitch
By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN – 10 hours ago
NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP) — Nine-year-old Jericho Scott is a good baseball player — too good, it turns out. The right-hander has a fastball that tops out at about 40 mph. He throws so hard that the Youth Baseball League of New Haven told his coach that the boy could not pitch any more. When Jericho took the mound anyway last week, the opposing team forfeited the game, packed its gear and left, his coach said.
Officials for the three-year-old league, which has eight teams and about 100 players, said they will disband Jericho's team, redistributing its players among other squads, and offered to refund $50 sign-up fees to anyone who asks for it. They say Jericho's coach, Wilfred Vidro, has resigned.
But Vidro says he didn't quit and the team refuses to disband. Players and parents held a protest at the league's field on Saturday urging the league to let Jericho pitch.
"He's never hurt any one," Vidro said. "He's on target all the time. How can you punish a kid for being too good?"
The controversy bothers Jericho, who says he misses pitching.
"I feel sad," he said. "I feel like it's all my fault nobody could play."
Jericho's coach and parents say the boy is being unfairly targeted because he turned down an invitation to join the defending league champion, which is sponsored by an employer of one of the league's administrators.
Jericho instead joined a team sponsored by Will Power Fitness. The team was 8-0 and on its way to the playoffs when Jericho was banned from pitching.
"I think it's discouraging when you're telling a 9-year-old you're too good at something," said his mother, Nicole Scott. "The whole objective in life is to find something you're good at and stick with it. I'd rather he spend all his time on the baseball field than idolizing someone standing on the street corner."
League attorney Peter Noble says the only factor in banning Jericho from the mound is his pitches are just too fast.
"He is a very skilled player, a very hard thrower," Noble said. "There are a lot of beginners. This is not a high-powered league. This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport."
Noble acknowledged that Jericho had not beaned any batters in the co-ed league of 8- to 10-year-olds, but say parents expressed safety concerns.
"Facing that kind of speed" is frighteneing for beginning players, Noble said.
League officials say they first told Vidro that the boy could not pitch after a game on Aug. 13. Jericho played second base the next game on Aug. 16. But when he took the mound Wednesday, the other team walked off and a forfeit was called.
League officials say Jericho's mother became irate, threatening them and vowing to get the league shut down.
"I have never seen behavior of a parent like the behavior Jericho's mother exhibited Wednesday night," Noble said.
Scott denies threatening any one, but said she did call the police.
League officials suggested that Jericho play other positions, or pitch against older players or in a different league.
Local attorney John Williams was planning to meet with Jericho's parents Monday to discuss legal options.
"You don't have to be learned in the law to know in your heart that it's wrong," he said. "Now you have to be punished because you excel at something?"
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So, apparently if you are too good, you can not play. How pathetic is this and are we becoming. If a player has potential and is a good player, he has to be banned from a league or told to play a different position?
Whatever happened to challenging others to pick up their game? Use to be that if someone was better than you, you picked up you level and became better yourself. But now I guess if someone is better than you, you force them to do something different. Maybe I'm missing something, but to me this is disturbing. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 5:26:20 AM | Welcome to the New World Order of PC, where everything has to be lowered to the standards of mediocrity for the sake of making everyone equal. If you can’t compete on your own skills & abilities, well then demand that those that are better then you be brought down to your level as it would be too hard for you to rise to theirs, of course this is only fair. Right ?
And the trees were all kept equal, by hatchet, ax & saw ……..  | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 6:12:11 AM | Maybe the Mom can get the league closed down and sue everyone....
Then she can put the Kid in a competitive league....
Lets see how good he is...
"He is a very skilled player, a very hard thrower," Noble said. "There are a lot of beginners. This is not a high-powered league. This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport."
He sounds like a ringer... the Parents are out of control.... | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 6:58:00 AM | by the sounds of it, the kid wasn't denied being able to play the game, just one position................and at nine years old and a pitch that fast , i too would be concerned for my child's safty...............wonder if he was any good at the other positions? or did he suck at those so he wasn't as valuable to the team?..................and if they used him to only pitch in practice against his own players, wouldn't they become better for it?................they are kids who should be out enjoying the game and if on a sandlot picking teams chances are if some kind of handicapp were not implemented , half the kids would walk....................and if he was so good and able to pitch agaginst older kids, would people not be worried about his safety against stronger players?.................i feel the league did the right thing and chances are the mother is living her 15 minutes..................... | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 7:03:22 AM | yeah when I was a kid in junior little league we had a kid who could throw a big league fastball. I remember being ten or so and shaking in my shoes when it would come hissing down the pipe.
however, eventually he hit some kid and shattered his collarbone. they had to pull him. as I remember it, he played in the next older league and they made a special provision for him.
Henry Lavoid was his name and I believe he went on to pitch minor league ball. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 7:05:24 AM | I would like to see that kid pitch. Why would he want to change positions?
Perhaps move him to the next bracket so he can play with older boys. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 7:13:43 AM | Well the boy should just get used to it. That's just life. You pitch too well, they won't let you play. You work too hard, you'll make your co-workers look bad, they will hate you, and get you fired. You make too much money, and the democrats will tax it all away from you... That's just the way life is, and the sooner the boy realizes that, the better off he'll be...
NOT!
That is probably the most asinine story I've read in a LONG time. Thanks for bringing it to our attention ezzee...
Mark
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 8:37:21 AM | | Sad that if he played on a team that was juiced in he would be praised. Bad sportsmanship on the leagues part. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 8:38:51 AM |
Jericho instead joined a team sponsored by Will Power Fitness. The team was 8-0 and on its way to the playoffs when Jericho was banned from pitching.
How many hits.... did he pitch in all the Games? ......
This is a life lesson about being too good?
The kid is a RINGER.... The parents wanted to win ...
Wheres the fun for the kids........
Rules..... every kid plays and rotates every position......This is a fun league.
I coached a Jr Hi team. Kids enjoying the games was the focus. MOST will never advance. Most will remember the games for the rest of their lives.
Each of the Kids deserves their moment .... NOT..... Jericho had no hits, no runs and can pitch 40 mph .........
Parents are very good about screwing things up....
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 8:53:23 AM | It sounds like he is just too good for this league - move him up and get on with it. Or do what the league suggested, move him to a different position where he could work on that skill since it's obvious he's perfected pitching. It's a no brainer in my book.
I agree that the sport of baseball (like many others) has become just about winning. Also, 40 mph balls can damage wee little brains and I wouldn't want my kid put in harms way. What happened to just getting together for a friendly game of baseball, football, basketball? Kids grow up way too fast and those lessons learned at a young age are what will shape their future. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 9:04:25 AM | | Welcome to the Monkey House. Kurt Vonnegut Jr. wrote about this back in the 70's. They put weights on the ballerinas & chips in your head to squish any intelligent thought, so we could all be the same. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 9:05:31 AM |
Rules..... every kid plays and rotates every position......This is a fun league. From post 1
League officials say they first told Vidro that the boy could not pitch after a game on Aug. 13. Jericho played second base the next game on Aug. 16. But when he took the mound Wednesday, the other team walked off and a forfeit was called. Ok, the kid was told he could not pitch. It does not say he can only pitch in rotation.And if it did, sounds like they may have started going on rotation because he played second base the game before. I do know some kids dont get to play because they dont play as well. I dont like that. Its not fair. The parents of these children have paid just like everyone elses parents.Its is supposed to be for fun, yet if your not good, the kids own coach will not let him play. If he is too good, the other teams coach wont let him play. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 9:07:16 AM |
Well the boy should just get used to it. That's just life. You pitch too well, they won't let you play. You work too hard, you'll make your co-workers look bad, they will hate you, and get you fired. You make too much money, and the democrats will tax it all away from you... That's just the way life is, and the sooner the boy realizes that, the better off he'll be...
NOT!
As sad as it is, developing talents at a young age can create problems for those who really stick out from the crowd. Some are driven by jealousy and fear and will use all the tools available to get rid of such a person. This is true for kids just as it is for adults.
I think that this league should be sued.
What kind of message are they sending by acting this way? The message is simple...if you stick out from others by being much better (or than my son), you will not be allowed to play? Ridiculous! | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 9:15:26 AM | If this is a developmental league he is playing in, I am curious if there is an elite league that would be more suited for his skill.
If he is that good, he is probably going to be needing a better coach anyway, one who can help him excel even further. It is my understanding that because of the stress a fastball or cutter can put on the arm, Little Leaguers are limited to 50 pitches. If this kid does not balance it out, his arm could be shot before he's 18. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 9:16:40 AM | Ok, the kid was told he could not pitch. It does not say he can only pitch in rotation.And if it did, sounds like they may have started going on rotation because he played second base the game before. I do know some kids dont get to play because they dont play as well. I dont like that. Its not fair. The parents of these children have paid just like everyone elses parents.Its is supposed to be for fun, yet if your not good, the kids own coach will not let him play. If he is too good, the other teams coach wont let him play.
If the league was sanctioned by Little league Every child gets to play some in each game and there are limits to how often a child can pitch each week.The children wear helmets and if they are hit in the head it should not harm them greatly. It sounds as if the president of the league and council want a specific team to win the championship, if they can't manipulate it one way they will try another. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 9:18:45 AM |
Welcome to the Monkey House. Kurt Vonnegut Jr. wrote about this back in the 70's. They put weights on the ballerinas & chips in your head to squish any intelligent thought, so we could all be the same.
Thanks for that, Spumoni Spinoza. I was trying to recall that, but the chips were buzzing too loudly.
Yet another real-life example of Political Correctness tipping the balance towards Socialism...a slippery slope, indeed. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 9:24:48 AM |
"He is a very skilled player, a very hard thrower," Noble said. "There are a lot of beginners. This is not a high-powered league. This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport."
Noble acknowledged that Jericho had not beaned any batters in the co-ed league of 8- to 10-year-olds, but say parents expressed safety concerns.
Honestly, this little boy needs to play in a more competetive league. This league is co-ed for pete's sake! It is a bunch of little kids learning the game and this kid is "out of his league".
I think the league made the right decision. Something tells me there is more to the story though. Im sure there were quite a few conversations on this. The parents remind me of Andy Kaufman and wrestling women. They are totally being ego driven.
Instead of moving him to a different league where he will be more challenged and probably develope his skills they are more into smokin' out the little kids so their boy can be a hero.
I would not want a 40 mph ball coming at my little girl either. I do not think this is about a kid being punished for being too good. This is about a kid being in the wrong league.
BTW - pitching can really ruin a growing kids arm and give him a lot of problems in the long run. As far as I know, correct me if I am wrong, but it is not advisable for a young kid to be throwing fast balls. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 9:36:02 AM | I am SO pleased to find other Vonnegut readers, but please, I don't think this is the same situation at all and besides, later in life, Vonnegut attributed that story (Welcome to the Monkey House) to his mysterious author "Kilgore Trout," so you do need to consider the source - I don't know that I would say that Trout was Vonnegut's inner author. I think you are supposed to think about who is telling the story. Besides if this truly was like the Monkey House, he would still be playing - just with a handicap, right?
I think this kid shouldn't be focusing on pitching - I agree that doing one repetative task while you are very young is not good for your development (like mom said, you'll go blind!). Move him up or move him to a position he isn't so good at - then let him work on those skills. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 9:37:27 AM |
Honestly, this little boy needs to play in a more competetive league. This league is co-ed for pete's sake! It is a bunch of little kids learning the game and this kid is "out of his league". Not his fault he has God given talents... for his age, he is in the right league.
I think the league made the right decision. Spoken like someone who's kid couldnt cut it, so lets dumb the entire leage down so it will fit him....
Something tells me there is more to the story though. Im sure there were quite a few conversations on this. The parents remind me of Andy Kaufman and wrestling women. They are totally being ego driven. Nope.. story was pretty short and concise..
Instead of moving him to a different league where he will be more challenged and probably develope his skills they are more into smokin' out the little kids so their boy can be a hero. Or moving him to a league where the kids are older, so they can ridicule and make fun of him... move him out of a league where he has his friends... Lets not challenge the rest of the kids in the league to step up to the plate and improve at all... no... that may hurt thier gentle self esteem or ego's... because someone is actually better than they are.
I would not want a 40 mph ball coming at my little girl either. I do not think this is about a kid being punished for being too good. This is about a kid being in the wrong league. Then, maybe your little girl shouldnt be playing ball. There are dangers in every aspect of life.
BTW - pitching can really ruin a growing kids arm and give him a lot of problems in the long run. As far as I know, correct me if I am wrong, but it is not advisable for a young kid to be throwing fast balls. LOL... apparently he has a natural talent and ability. So, lets stifle it because the rest of the kids cant cut it...
WOW!! Imagine that...... Another gleeming gem of evidence of the dumbing down of our kids and society... | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 9:56:03 AM |
WOW!! Imagine that...... Another gleeming gem of evidence of the dumbing down
BAN girls for a Co-Ed league.... Cannot cut it... HA
You seem to miss the point of the league.
“The spirit of the league was community, family, well being, nurturing. It’s an extended family and it’s been disrupted,” said attorney Peter Noble, who represents Liga Juvenil De Baseball De New Haven, Spanish for Youth Baseball League of New Haven. The league is not affiliated with Little League baseball.
How about this kids fielding and other skills?
This is not a competitive league ... Co-ed?....... Next step from T-ball
I have heard this stupidity from parents ........... I have seen the Police called to a Jr Hi game because of PARENTS......
Its like the clown that beat the Hockey Coach to death.... Wasn't that also in Boston? | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 10:35:19 AM | | I think this is stupidity. Let the boy finish out the season. He has good control over the ball, according to the article. 8 games and no injuries. Next year move him to a more suitable league. Maybe he can just tone down the pitching speed a bit this year. He should be encouraged to do what he enjoys and to be as good at it as he can. How many parents out there think that their child should be denied the opportunity to do what they enjoy doing and to do what they are good at? | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 10:36:00 AM | | Some folks here just don't get it: this isn't a competitive league, but one for beginners and others to learn the game, learn sportsmanship and have fun. In such a league a boy with this kind of fast ball could hurt someone. It isn't his fault, but this isn't the right place for him to play, not as a pitcher. Suggesting there is some insidious intent in making such a ruling is absurd. Let the boy play, but not pitch, or find a more competitive league. The safety of all the kids needs to be considered first and foremost. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 10:36:08 AM | | Maybe they think it would be dangerous if he hit another kid with a pitch. I've heard of kids dying after being hit in the chest with a ball. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 10:47:23 AM | *raises hand*
I have a question.
If a batter hits a ball and it takes a straight line to the pitcher, how fast is the ball going? Doesn't a batted ball generally move faster than the pitch?
I'm just wondering, if it's not okay for this kid to throw a 40 mph fast ball, why it would be alright for batters to send balls flying 40 mph or faster back at the pitcher?
Sounds like the whole thing is inherently dangerous. If you don't want your kids taking chances, have them play softball instead.
The boy's getting a bum rap in my opinion. | |
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| Banned for Being Too Good Posted: 8/26/2008 11:20:28 AM | | Isn't it a matter of physics? The faster the ball is headed at the batter, the farther and harder the ball will fly off of a bat, right? I think it still comes back to the pitcher. I agree that at this level, the game should be about the teamwork not the ringer. Why not make him work a little on a part of the game he isn't so good at? What harm can come of that? | |
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