| Do woman mind dating shorter men?
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:08:20 PM | | When checking profiles I often skip on those woman who are taller than me or would be taller than me when they wear heels. Dating a taller woman doesn't bother me but I feel that it would bother her. Would love to know the female point of view. Thanx. | |
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| Do woman mind dating shorter men?
Posted: 8/29/2008 5:21:43 PM | | You know the old adage about 'assuming'? Never assume a woman taller than you wouldn't date you. Just because some tall women on this site refuse to date men who aren't at least two inches taller than themselves doesn't mean the rest of the tall women here wouldn't date shorter men. I know its not the height of a man that matters but the size of his heart and personality. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 9:37:26 PM | | Idk alot of women dont like shorter guys and I gotta say it sucks seeing how I feel like a midget compared to everyone lol. But seriously you rarely see tall women with short men, idk i wouldnt mind a taller woman if she didnt wanna wear heels all the time lol | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:49:51 AM | WCMS, from what I've seen, that's such a small percentage it's barely worth mentioning...
Let's see, an average day poking around this place usually leads to:
Woman 4' 9" looking for man 6' 5" or taller... [Insert any height over 6' here]
Woman 5' 0" looking for man 6' 5" or taller...
Woman 5' 1" looking for man 6' 5" or taller...
Woman 5' 2" looking for man 6' 5" or taller...
Woman 5' 3" looking for man 6' 5" or taller...
And so on and so on...
I mean, we wouldn't want people to be realistic that there simply aren't enough tall guys to go around now, would we?  | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 9:42:45 AM | if you are a short guy
You are screwed...
In todays mens health
Why Height Doesn't Matter
Four short men who have survived ridicule and prejudice share their success secrets
Add page to favoritesBy Joe Kita, Men's Health
On the campus of James Madison University, in Harrisonburg, Virginia, stands a bronze statue of the school's namesake. This life-size replica of the fourth U.S. president is just 5'4" tall; it seems almost as if a toy human were filling the biggest job in the world. If you sit nearby during summer open house, you'll witness surprise and skepticism from visitors as they stop, circle, and study it. What's with the double takes? Why do so many people assume that a commander-in-chief must be tall and robust? And why is Madison's size an issue at all? He's a founding father, an author of the Constitution. And he's a short guy.
Such is the short man's curse.
That curse has probably never been more pervasive than it is in today's appearance-is-everything society. The short man (and by short, we mean below the national average of 5'9") must not only conquer the usual challenges that guard success but also withstand ridicule and even prejudice. Studies have revealed that short men are less likely to be hired, promoted, or paid as well as their taller colleagues, and are less prized by women.
But if we open our minds, there are things we can learn. The four short men you're about to meet have overcome adversity to excel in entertainment, law enforcement, sports, and politics. The lessons they've absorbed and the work ethic they've cultivated can help you do the same, whether you're 5'2" or 6'4". All of these men are inspirational examples of why height shouldn't matter. And yet they're also disturbing monuments to the fact that people still find a man's stature impossible to overlook.
Marc Victor
Height: 5'4"
Age: 36
Occupation: Senior producer, NBC's Today show
The door is labeled "Control Room." Opening it takes you from the bright morning bustle of New York's Rockefeller Plaza into the twilit netherworld of NBC's main production studio. Covering one entire wall is a giant black screen with insets of all the competing channels, plus feeds from in-house cameras, teleprompters, and two digital clocks in perpetual countdown mode. About 30 people operate the technology, and their mood is as tense and hectic as you'd expect with live television. In the back row, never seated, is Marc Victor, Today's senior producer. Victor is responsible for overseeing all aspects of the show's third hour, in addition to supervising the booking departments of both Today and MSNBC. This morning he's juggling segments on America's best new chefs, fast fabulous furniture, Anna Kournikova's campaign for youth fitness, and Paris Hilton's being sprung from jail. To handle all this, he's connected to six different communications devices: headset, desk phone, BlackBerry, mobile phone, Internet, and TV.
"Marc, line one."
"Marc, call waiting on two."
"Marc! I need 4 minutes at the end of this hour or we're screwed!"
It could be one reason why Victor loves his job so much. When he steps through that door at 6:30 a.m. each weekday morning, he leaves the real world behind and enters one that he orchestrates. And when you're 5'4", a door labeled "Control Room" is second only to one marked with a big gold star. A former high-school point guard, he calls himself a scrapper. Where he once hustled for loose balls across end lines, he now scrambles for exclusive stories on deadline — and usually gets them. In here, his height doesn't matter.
"Professionally, my height never gets in the way," says Victor, who traded a career in his father's Chicago janitorial business for the dream of a life in TV. "I know who I am and that's it. It's not like I wake up every day and say, Aw, God, I can't believe I'm so short. I'm just not that person."
"You can generalize a lot about being short," adds Al Roker, Today's 5'8" weatherman. "Guys can be very sensitive about it and end up being big jerks. But that's not Marc. We all love him — mostly because he buys us drinks with the money he saves shopping at Gap Kids."
The Measure of a Man
The office needs point guards, too. Call a play. Ask for the ball in clutch situations. It's not just about ability; it's about mindset.
Presence comes from personality. To command a room, simply be the person everyone enjoys talking to.
Instead of dwelling on shortcomings, compensate for them. If you're short, have a big personality. If you're balding, shave your head. If you're fat, wear black. Find ways to camouflage your shortfalls.
Don Murdoch
Height: 5'3"
Age: 36
Occupation: Police officer, Philadelphia SWAT team
It's a sweltering summer night in Philadelphia's Badlands. That's the nickname for the 25th Police District, where Officer Don Murdoch fights to keep some semblance of order. By his own admission, this place is "infested" with drugs: Crack, heroin, cocaine, marijuana, pills... it's all here, for sale on every corner. Take one dealer off the street, and another will replace him in less than 15 minutes. More than 80,000 people packed within a 5.4-square-mile area make it a hornet's nest of theft, assault, and murder.
Murdoch, recently reassigned to SWAT, was a narcotics officer here for 2 years. He's had his nose, hand, fingers, and ribs broken, had gun barrels pointed at his head, and even been bitten three times — not by dogs, but by people he was struggling with. All this would be challenge enough for any cop, but Murdoch stands at just 5'3" and weighs 165 pounds. He's known in the 'hood as the "little white guy." And although he's 36 years old, he looks 26, which compounds the problem.
"I see officers who are 6'3" tell people to do something and they do it," he says. "But when I say the exact same thing, they ignore me. They have no respect for an officer with my size and physical appearance. Let's face it: I don't scare too many people."
It took a while for Murdoch to learn that lesson, though. As a rookie, he got into lots of scuffles as he was tested by the denizens of his district. But he gradually realized he wasn't going to overpower or even stare anyone down. So he became smarter. Now when he pulls someone over to make an arrest, he cuffs the person inside the car. Or when he detains a suspicious character, he acts like it's no big deal while waiting for backup. And, in a strange kind of way, he's learned to enjoy this strategy more. "They hate being tricked," he quips.
Unlike the other men profiled on these pages, who claim to give their height little or no thought on a daily basis, Murdoch must stay constantly aware of his stature. If he disregards it when he's trying to defuse a situation, he could end up dead. For him, height does matter.
Out on the street, it's as if he never left grade school. People see his height before they see his badge and automatically challenge his authority. During a school-dismissal detail, he's verbally abused by kids, many of whom tower above him.
Indeed, after riding with Murdoch for an evening, you can't help but wonder what drives him. Police work is grueling and dangerous enough without all this height stuff. "I like the action," is all he'll say in his typically tight-lipped way. But you get the feeling that he draws great satisfaction from protecting people and making sure everyone is treated fairly. And shouldn't that be, after all, the true measure of a policeman who stands tall?
The Measure of a Man
People will always pick you apart for something. You're never without weakness. We grow out of one thing and into another. But weakness only becomes vulnerability if you let it.
Learn the difference between control and respect. One is enforced; the other is earned. If people respect you, they'll follow your lead when the tension builds. That's real control.
Don't let them see you bleed. "Does it bother me?" says Murdoch. "Sure it bothers me. But I never let them see that."
Earl Boykins
Height: 5'5"
Age: 31
Occupation: Pro basketball player
Put yourself in this situation: You're a senior guard at a Division I school and average 26 points per game. You're second in the nation in scoring and an Honorable Mention All-American. You led your country to a gold medal in the World University Games, and you're USA Basketball's Athlete of the Year. But during the NBA draft, no one picks you. That's like graduating at the top of your class at Harvard law school and not receiving any job offers.
"I thought I would go late first round or early second," recalls Earl Boykins. "When it didn't happen, I was disappointed. It was the first time I really saw that some people viewed my height negatively."
But like the ball that Boykins uses to continually work his magic, he bounced back, and after a couple of seasons in the Continental Basketball Association, he eventually made it to the NBA. He's been in the league for 9 years now, and in the most recent off-season, he was offered a deal to return to the Milwaukee Bucks. Because of his productivity on the court, Boykins turned down the Bucks' offer, hoping for more. As of press time, he was still waiting for a second offer. The curse of low height is pervasive, it seems.
You can see where the teams are coming from. Boykins is a novelty in a profession where 7'1", 325-pound Shaqs prevail. At Golden State, the song "It's a Small World" was played when he came onto the court. And elsewhere he's known as the Double-Digit Midget because of his prolific scoring bursts (a record 15 in one overtime period, and 30-plus on occasion). He routinely guards opponents who tower over him, but he says he's never intimidated. He can bench-press 315 pounds, which means he could lift Yao Ming if the need arose.
Boykins's athletic ability, even at a young age, spared him the belittlement that other short kids face. "I wasn't picked on growing up, and I was never the last kid chosen for games." In fact, he says, "basketball has been easy for me. I could always shoot. The first time I scored 30 points in a game, I was 10 years old, and I knew even then I would be an NBA player."
That's why draft day was such a rude awakening. For the first time, he felt what he calls "the prejudice." And despite all he's accomplished since then, he doesn't feel he's been able to change that. "It will always be that way, at least in the NBA, because people are afraid to take chances," he says. "Sam Bowie [7'1"] was drafted ahead of Michael Jordan [6'6"] for the same reason. People just view me as a special case."
Although Boykins can be sensitive about his height (that arena soundman never played "Small World" again), he has never used it as an excuse. "I remember my father saying after I didn't get drafted that nothing had really changed in terms of my playing in the NBA except that my name wasn't called on television," he recounts. "And that's how I viewed it... I wasn't going to allow my height to determine if I'd make it to the NBA. If I didn't make it, it was going to be because I wasn't good enough, not because I wasn't tall enough. Success is the same way. If you want an excuse, you can always find one."
The Measure of a Man
Be the underdog. At work, on the court, on a date... When you have nothing to lose, you can concentrate more on winning.
Welcome underestimation. When others expect less of you, it's easy to deliver more.
Adopt an ethic of constant improvement. Be confident in your abilities, but never assume those abilities can't be improved.
Accept who you are. "How tall do I feel?" says Boykins. "Every day, I feel 5'5"."
Robert B. Reich
Height: 4'10 ½"
Age: 61
Occupation: Former United States Secretary of Labor; professor of public policy at U.C. Berkeley
When you're 58 ½ inches tall, you can expect life to have its ups and downs. When Robert B. Reich was in grade school, for instance, he was occasionally harassed and beaten up. Yet in junior high, he found his height to be a startling advantage during slow dances.
A lifetime later, President Clinton asked Reich to serve in his cabinet as secretary of labor. But the stigma stuck: In a Capitol Hill elevator, Sen. Strom Thurmond once commented, "That's a nice suit you have on. Do they make it in adult sizes?" Even Reich's boss, the president, once remarked as he looked at a Lego model of the White House, "Secretary Reich could almost live in there."
In 2002, Reich ran for governor of Massachusetts and won an impressive 25 percent of the Democratic primary vote. But it was clear that his candidacy would proceed no further. "It was the first time in my life that my height became a significant issue," he says. And even though Reich, 61, has written 11 books (his most recent is Supercapitalism), holds degrees from Dartmouth, Oxford, and Yale, and remains an influential economist and social scientist, there's always, always, something or somebody to keep the short man grounded.
But Reich is not one to dwell on life's negatives. He says he pays "almost no attention" to his height on a daily basis and credits his self-assurance to growing up with supportive parents in a small town (South Salem, New York), where his "difference" (never "handicap") was not emphasized. In Washington, Reich proved remarkably resilient. He constantly deflected skepticism. And he did it with his signature brand of self-deprecating wit.
"They told me to be short," he'd say while standing on a step stool at the start of a speech.
Reich has not publicly supported Massachusetts Rep. Byron Rushing's height-and-weight anti-discrimination bill. "I'm wary about giving [short stature] a kind of prominence that it doesn't have in my consciousness," he says. "What we're talking about is a difference of 12 to 14 inches, at most. To me, that isn't a disability. I've always regarded myself as fully able."
The Measure of a Man
Success is entirely subjective. If you define what success means to you, you're not measuring up to anybody's standards but your own.
Ambition trumps ability. When it comes to reaching the beachhead of success, passion is a stronger tide than raw talent.
Self-deprecation is the most endearing type of humor. It sets people at ease; just be careful not to overuse it or you won't be taken seriously.
Regardless of your size, learn to empathize with the little guy. It'll broaden your thinking, keep you humble, and ensure that you always have the proper perspective. The ability to examine issues from above and below is priceless | |
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Posted: 9/11/2008 7:21:11 AM | Oh ashamed to admit it but I have a pet peeve about dating anyone shorter than me....I know, I know, I'm really working on that. I love my heals and have owned the same pair of sneakers for 8 years (good lord I need to change that)
I am trying because it really shouldn't matter the height as long as he didn't look like a midget next to me!  | |
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Posted: 9/11/2008 10:42:37 AM | Speaking for myself only...I have no problem dating shorter men. Now I am only 5'3" myself but have dated a man who was 5'1" and have also been attracted to other guys that were shorter than me. I used to be attracted to taller guys but have found in the last 5 years that I much prefer shorter guys.
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Posted: 9/13/2008 10:45:06 AM | I think that as we get older, we start to realize that we aren't getting any younger and we don't look as good as we used to. It starts to make you look more INSIDE a person rather then be superficial and judge a person on their outside first. So height becomes less important to the people honestly looking for a "Match". Face it, when you're in your 60's - 80's height doesn't mean a thing. So if you're SERIOUS about a relationship, broader horizons bring forth more options.
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Posted: 9/13/2008 11:12:44 AM | | Why is it a matter of height. I mean I am 6 foot tall. I do occationally wear heels. As garfield says I am not fat I am under tall so some days the heels are slimming...I hope...lol. I dont care about the height of a man. I would date anyone with a good heart. Yes I am attracted to big guys simply because they arent embarrassed by me and make me walk like 3 feet away from them in stores so people wont know they are with me. That and it is nice to be made to feel small and feminine. But I would date someone who is genuine and caring and sweet even if I could bounce him on my knee as long as he treats me right...and loves my kids. I think there are just to many people looking for a reason to blame on why they cant get someone of the opposite sex. I was jsut on a thread about a tall woman saying no short men would date her. Here it is shorter men saying tall woman wont date them. Get real. There are some saying it is because they have kids. Or no money. Or wrong looks, wrong skin color....what ever. I mean have you ever looked into yourself and said ok maybe it isnt my looks but what is inside. Once you are happy with you and have confidence maybe you will find women beating down the doors for you. And they will treat you better because you demand better for yourself and dont settle for less. Lets face it when I am with the right guy he gets regular massages. He gets good home cooked meals. He is king in his home. Yet look at me. I am single and on here. Ok so I did just start back in the market and I do have 2 young children. My pic is nice but not sexy. But that is me. I am nice and comfortable...not sexy...I can be but that is for adult time only. I am happy with who I am and just looking for the right person to share that with. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2008 11:47:33 PM | Personally, being a full-figured woman, I prefer taller men. I don't mind us being the same height. I also prefer it if a guy is shorter, it's better if he's not overweight.
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Posted: 9/18/2008 6:05:30 AM | | FOR SOME REASON I SEEM TO LIKE TALLER WOMEN--A GAL I DATE NOW IS 5'9" AND I'M 5'8" NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE BUT SOME. I GUESS IT A PERSONAL PREFERENCE. | |
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Posted: 8/10/2009 5:16:03 PM | | i would love to date a woman who is taller than me. in fact, my preference is to have a girlfriend who is taller, older, stronger (i.e. more athletic), and has a larger body build than me. i want to be protected instead of being the protector, the opposite of a traditional couple. | |
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Posted: 8/31/2009 1:25:36 AM | Matador, I guess the true answer is that some women do mind and some women don't mind. And therein is the flaw of your feeling that you figure that the woman you are attracted to on here by way of viewing her profile may not be interested....the advice, which applies to all of us, really...is...drum roll please.....we will never know unless we ask :)
Matador, go for it!!
And to all of us....let us not hesitate....CARPE DIEM
(That is Latin for Seize the Day...but, I'll bet most knew that already!)
(Here's your quote ---Matador Said:
When checking profiles I often skip on those woman who are taller than me or would be taller than me when they wear heels. Dating a taller woman doesn't bother me but I feel that it would bother her. Would love to know the female point of view. Thanx.) | |
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Posted: 8/31/2009 9:59:50 PM | | I do not date men that are shorter than me. Makes me feel uncomfortable. I am 5'8" and sometimes likes to wear heels so I need to be with a man at least 5'10". Alot of women do not have a height issue but I do. | |
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Posted: 9/13/2009 5:55:25 AM | At 6ft...I will not date shorter men. my preference is 6'2 or over but will date someone the same height as me.
dday...question for you....you harp on the "getting to know the inside" in your post. Would you date a woman the same height as you but weighed 300 lbs? | |
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Posted: 9/19/2009 3:40:40 PM | | My opinion only - I would not care, esp. if he was a good match for me in every other department, it would not bother me one bit. I have dated men shorter than me. | |
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Posted: 9/19/2009 4:46:03 PM |
At 6ft...I will not date shorter men. my preference is 6'2 or over but will date someone the same height as me.
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Posted: 10/11/2009 7:12:01 AM | | I do not date anyone under 5'6". Also, guys who are 5'4" regularly lie and say they are 5'6". It's just me, and I know it's shallow, but I can't get excited about short guys. | |
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