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 Phuqd

Joined: 3/23/2008
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Posted: 9/1/2008 11:00:31 AM
I was inspired to start this post after reading Xs thread about lazy Facebook teens.
This thread is NOT about if being overweight is acceptable or not.
It is about those that choose to lead a healthy lifestyle and the things they do to achieve or maintain their fitness goals.

We all know that you need 30 minutes of physical activity a day, so what do you do to ensure you get it?

Diet also plays a huge role in overall health, and while there are tons of them out there, certain ones have been more popular than others. Your experiences?

I walk my dog which is at least an hour of exercise everyday.
Parking at the back of the grocery store lot, taking the stairs, walking to the store.
I also used to do weight lifting, and was actually into bodybuilding when I was in late teens, but find myself lacking the motivation these days.
School starts for me tomorrow, and I will be riding my bike on days that are weather permitting, more to save gas than anything, but the ride wont kill me either.
Walking behind the lawn mower for an hour to cut the lawn, cleaning the gutters, and other household chores also tend to get the heart rate up.

I have done a few diets in the past before, but the one which I have had the most luck with was Atkins diet. While most people think that this diet is an all meat, all the time diet, it is actually just a reduced carb diet in the long-term.
A recent article in time magazine actually suggested that those who are wanting to begin a diet regimen try an Atkins style diet, as the results tend to be dramatic in a short amount of time. There is never the feeling that you aren't full, or that you are denying yourself, and the positive results in a short amount of time give a person a positive outlook on what they are accomplishing.

At the moment I am simply trying to reduce the amount of calories and fat I take in each day.
Anything that I can buy in low fat I do, and always get diet products if they are an alternative. I have found that the "blue" menu from superstore is quite good, and very easy to buy.
I also eat smaller portions more often, and try to choose foods that are high on the satiety index. I have never been a fan of water, but crystal light is all flavour, no filler.

Diet and exercise are of course not a one size fits all concepts, but everyone can find little ways to lead a healthier lifestyle.
 XHTML

Joined: 6/5/2008
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Posted: 9/1/2008 12:26:10 PM
I've struggled with shedding extra pounds and have made lifestyle changes with success.

A few...
Refined sugar is out!
Low-fat food are selected instead of regular fat choices.
I eat lots of fresh fruit and vegetables.

Earlier this summer my exercise regime consisted mostly of a bicycle ride but a nasty shoulder injury suffered while on a ride torpedoed that, and I still cannot ride a bicycle. Cycling is my preferred good weather exercise. My weight has continued to decline despite my reduced physical activity, and while I have no proof, I believe my daily consumption of a whole grapefruit has contributed to that.
Grapefruit is recognized for its benefits in weight reduction.

I've done some walking and will dust off the treadmill for when the monsoons hit.

I've made steps to improve my sleep.
Sleeping disorders, including sleep apnea, contribute to weight gain.
 incommunicado

Joined: 8/25/2008
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Posted: 9/1/2008 12:32:17 PM
Part of my recent weight loss success is making sure that my a$$hole is working properly. You can't lose weight if the sh1tter doesn't work properly...

I send him to work almost every day of the week now, it helps pay for my Meridia, Xenical and Prozac...
 Temptation50

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Posted: 9/1/2008 12:42:45 PM
Intereresting topic.....

Too bad so many hide behind every excuse in the book for weight gain, some legit, most not....
Diets don't work, never have, short term solution usually with the return of any real weight loss....

It's not that complicated, eat what you burn .....any more, weight gain, any less, weight loss...pretty simple actually.
Of course diet, balance and level of activity are crucial......
 Walts

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Posted: 9/1/2008 12:48:53 PM
It's not that complicated, eat what you burn


Shhhhh, temp,,,you're giving away "the secret".
It's never been rocket science,,,and it never will be,,,, no matter how many books you read or diets you want to go on or "special" foods you eat.
 XHTML

Joined: 6/5/2008
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Posted: 9/1/2008 1:03:47 PM

It's not that complicated, eat what you burn .....any more, weight gain, any less, weight loss...pretty simple actually.


Well for some it is not complicated. For others it is considerably more complicated. It is wrong to make such generalizations for everyone.

As was discussed in a very lengthy thread that has recently vanished, there are numerous factors that influence body weight, including metabolic rate, which may be influenced by hereditary traits.
 mo-mo

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Posted: 9/1/2008 1:24:07 PM
As a matter of fact i am in a serious battle of the bulge right now.If all goes well,
I am hoping to shed 350 lbs of useless weight in the next week or two.Wish me luck
 Phuqd

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Posted: 9/1/2008 1:34:25 PM
^^^^
You must be on the Olsen Twin diet...
Cocaine and Bulimia.

OT:
It is not so simple as eat what you burn because not everyone has the metabolism.
There are ways to speed your metabolism up through diet, supplements, and physical activity.
For those that do things like weight training, there are muscle groups that burn off more fat that others.
Different people are able to achieve different results based on their choice in cardio.
Running is very high impact, and some people are only able to do it for short time periods before it takes an exhausting toll on their body, where with the same effort they would be able to work longer and burn more calories on something low impact like an elliptical machine or a bike.

As I said before, there is no cookie cutter way for people to achieve their personal fitness goals and those that pretend there is need only to look around at the different body types.
I am not referring to just fat, skinny, or athletic, but instead to ectomorphs, mezzamorphs, etc...
 Walts

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Posted: 9/1/2008 3:39:23 PM
I was just looking thru some black and white photos from the 50's and and amazingly almount of non-fat humans. I wonder what happened between then and now???? I mean seriously. Like what happened or should I say,changed in the "metabolisms" of the human body since those times, to today???? Chemical???? Mental???? Or like,,,,what?????

Something happened. Must have.
 ritawayward

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Posted: 9/1/2008 3:51:40 PM
from the 50's and and amazingly almount of non-fat humans. I wonder what happened between then and now????


Three things immediately come to mind. I know there are more but this is my contribution for now.

1. Portion SIZE!!! I have watched muffins, cookies and any meals served in chain restaurants triple in size
since I was old enough to buy and notice these things (approx 40 years).

2. Reduced Physical Activity required in daily life starting from early childhood.
Too much DRIVING DRIVING DRIVING! We walked to school every day 40 mins each way
(no not in the snow up hill both ways lol) and I was one of the rare few who walked my son to
school everyday( approx 1/2 hour walk)when parents as close as five blocks away drive their kids
in the name of safety when alternatives DO exist. Parent walks them or sets them up with a group of kids
and or parents who walk with them.

3. Unnaturally Grown Food, from above and below,(pesticides and mega chemical fertilizers) containing
much more empty calories and steroid like growth hormones(add that to those from junk food). When our food does not meet our basic nutritional needs
a message remains with our brain that we are still hungry so we load up on more empty calories to stave off the sensation of hunger from lack of nutrients.
This packs on the pounds and starves the brain.
 Only_want_One

Joined: 8/10/2008
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Posted: 9/1/2008 4:01:28 PM

I was just looking thru some black and white photos from the 50's and and amazingly almount of non-fat humans. I wonder what happened between then and now???? I mean seriously. Like what happened or should I say,changed in the "metabolisms" of the human body since those times, to today???? Chemical???? Mental???? Or like,,,,what?????

Nothing "happened" Walts. It is pure and simple. People back then did not constantly sit around and were in a constant state of movement. People were more active, both in their work lives and personal. Your day was full of things to do to keep busy. Things were less disposable and so needed fixing. You either fixed that fence yourself or had someone come over to help you. Back then, there was less driving around and more walking to get from your home to the corner grocery store.
IMHO, in today's world, there is less physical "movement" amongst humans....
 Temptation50

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Posted: 9/1/2008 6:07:15 PM
Like I stated in my original post......

Seems some love to hide behind the new age mumbo jumbo ....
My bodys like this, my bodys like that blah blah blah.......
Typical of todays thinking, take no responsibilty for what is your responsibility.
It was nice to read that some adults get it.......

Fact is, it's as simple as I originally stated......
Eat 300o cals......you better burn up 3000 cals.....
Less than 1 percent of over weight people have a physical / medical reason for their condition.....

Medical Dr's will tell you the very same.....
The new age self appointed so called pro's, diet book writers, personal trainers etc will give anyone that'll listen a billion excuses why they are overweight for the right price.......
 Phuqd

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Posted: 9/1/2008 6:19:45 PM
I don't know that there is any dispute that people are getting over weight.
Or that we are doing less physical activity each day, that portions are larger, with more calories.
Our understanding of the human body and how it runs is far better than it was 50 years ago, and while there are lots of reasons people are overweight, there are different ways to approach losing it for everyone.

The point of the thread was what do you do to burn off those calories, to get yourself moving, to lead a healthier lifestyle.
So while it is great that you are both (walts and temptation) playing captain obvious, you both lack suggestions on how one may self improve.
Thanks anyway though.

PS. Perhaps starting a thread "Why people are fat" would make your contributions useful.
 Mountain Lion 1

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Posted: 9/1/2008 7:59:41 PM

So while it is great that you are both (walts and temptation) playing captain obvious, you both lack suggestions on how one may self improve.


wasn't actually planning to put my feet in my mouth again, but since the OP suggests there needs to be something spelled out here; guess the less aged need their food spoon feed same as the thoughts, hence the result fat and overweight brain = conclusion no action = result: FAT
Countermeasures as my friends pointed out:
don't put more in than you need
translated for the slow learner:
if you want to have ten orgasms you can eat about 7ooo calories if you are the guy and doing all the moving, if you're out flat on your back try 4000 calories..... you figure the rest....
If you are the gal flat on yer back try 2000 calories, if you are doing all the moving....
call temp 50 or walts
bectcha you'll have no complaints
 Phuqd

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Posted: 9/1/2008 9:25:58 PM
Maybe I AM the one who is retarded...

Because that sounds like exercise and diet to me.

Watch your diet so that you aren't consuming more calories than you take in?
No kidding?
But then they are both so sure that diets don't work.

And exercise?
How could anyone have missed that?
I was clearly a jerk for calling them Captain Obvious.

All this new information is making my fat brain tired.
I think I need a rest.
 Northwest from Eden

Joined: 12/22/2007
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Posted: 9/1/2008 9:35:43 PM
diet and exercise are important but people have different bone structures, body fats and metabolisms, more important the difference of race plus the the factor of age; and we all go to the cycles of life.

don't ignore that some looses unwanted fats easily, some moderate and there are people trying but just couldn't.
 Mountain Lion 1

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Posted: 9/1/2008 10:58:52 PM

I think I need a rest.

some is good
try to take it with a grain of salt...this is forum???right????

If any one had a perfect answer for all gender and ages at all times to battle the"bulges"....well we wouldn't have any nor would there be billions spent every tear for diet books and wise guys getting FAT of the believers...
lets leave it at common sense, really what walts and temp were kinda eluding to...look at your genetic make up, your food intake, your activities....and be proud or not of every ounce you gained...you earned it, no
heck I lost 40 pounds from when I was your age...and it wasn't fat...just didn't exercise that much.... so it can go both ways...

happy
 Walts

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Posted: 9/2/2008 6:57:06 AM

Our understanding of the human body and how it runs is far better than it was 50 years ago, and while there are lots of reasons people are overweight, there are different ways to approach losing it for everyone.


Playing "captain obvious" here is why I asked the question about "what has changed" in our bodies from back then to now. The answer it seems = nothing, other than what we, as humans, have been putting in our bodies(or would that be,,,how much we put in our bodies???), what we DON'T do in the physical category,etc. But, still, no real change in the body and it's chemistry. What HAS changed is the amount of "reasons" (I'll use that word, instead of the one that should be used) people USE to explain their extra poundage.

And yes, Phuqd, there are "different ways" to lose weight. But still, the simpliest (and healthiest) way to watch your weight is to control the amount of calories along with getting off your bum and doing something. Oh,,, you could take some pills,,,or you could go one a "special" diet, or you could decide to go to the book store and find some "reason" that fits your own personal scenario.
For an example,,, I have not so good knees because of stuff that I have done in my past. If I get into a "sitting" or "lazy" mode for a couple of weeks,,, I can gain 5-10 of unwanted poundage. My first warning signs are the pain in my knees. They are telling me I have some "extra" stuff that I am now carrying around. Now,,,I could continue to sit on the bum, and complain about the pain in my knees,,,gain more poundage, and very quickly I would be in a catch 22 situation. Instead I know I have get those extra 5-10 lbs off NOW,,,,,no matter how much pain is in those knees. Once they are off,,,the knees only bother me when the weather decides to turn.

We may have a better understanding of our bodies as compared to 50 years ago,,,and if that is the case Phuqd,,, I ask,, why are there more and more "out of shape" people today as compared to yesteryear???? Are they because of those "reasons" or using my word,"excuses",or is it, because we, as humans,are being less and less "active" in the physical category?????
I suggest it IS as simple as calorie intake compared each person's calorie burning. Very active people never seem to be "lazy" or seen "sitting around". They always seem to be doing "stuff". Even docs will tell you, the more active you are,,,the more active you will be. In saying that,,,it goes the other way too,,,no matter what the "reasons" are. My day usually starts at 4-5 in the morning, and by the end of the week, my legs have usually carried me close to 40-50 kilometres(that's without a weekend fishing trip). That's walking jobsites, in and out of my truck, running around getting things for the day,etc,etc. Not all the guys in my position do these things and their bodies show it. That also does not include what I do in my personal time.
I will still say it is as simple as it seems. We just seem to make things a little more complicated then they really are,,,and that I just don't understand. I have always found the KISS system to always work best when dealing with the masses.
 whitetigeress

Joined: 3/1/2008
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Posted: 9/2/2008 7:41:08 AM
i think my kids would cry if i finally battled the bulge on my tummy because they love to run their hot wheels over the rolls
or
blow raspberries on it
they ask why is it so fat and i say because they were so damn big but alas it produces healthy lil buggers
me thinks when they play with it
its a spiritual thing .. they are becoming one with what used to be their womb

nahh... i cant lose my bulge
(pinches bulge, embraces bulge)


as for the rest of me, its in shape
i watch what i eat although i don't deny myself anything
and go out of my way to combine extra physical activity into everyday life
plus, having a labor intensive job helps too (flexes arms)
 Halokitty™

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Posted: 9/2/2008 12:43:24 PM

We all know that you need 30 minutes of physical activity a day, so what do you do to ensure you get it?


Since the topic of the post seems to have gotten lost, I'll post an answer to the original poster's question.

What do I do to ensure I get 30 minutes a day, minimum? I park in the lower level parking lot and take the stairs to the main floor (something like 6-8 flights, can't remember which). I also go for walks around the hospital at work. I park as far as I can from the store. I take the stairs in to Super Store, rather than the ramp or elevator. I was jogging for 30-45 minutes a day but I need new shoes so that has been scrapped for the time being. I occasionally do a few ball exercises at home, as well as using my 6 pound medicine ball. Though I admit, I haven't been doing that recently.

As for food, I incorporate a lot of veggies and fruit in to my diet, minimal pasta and white breads (actually haven't had white bread for months and months and months). No coffee. Minimal sugar. Extremely small amounts of junk food ( I allow myself some chocolate, since it is my weakness). Lean meats, and small portions at that, lots of protein either from beans or a protein powder (since it offers lower calories and than other alternatives) and eating breakfast every single day.

This has allowed a 20 pound weight loss since June 1, and a total of 17.5 inches lost since July 10.
 Minerva73

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Posted: 9/2/2008 1:15:43 PM

What do I do to ensure I get 30 minutes a day, minimum? I park in the lower level parking lot and take the stairs to the main floor (something like 6-8 flights, can't remember which). I also go for walks around the hospital at work. I park as far as I can from the store. I take the stairs in to Super Store, rather than the ramp or elevator. I was jogging for 30-45 minutes a day but I need new shoes so that has been scrapped for the time being. I occasionally do a few ball exercises at home, as well as using my 6 pound medicine ball. Though I admit, I haven't been doing that recently.

As for food, I incorporate a lot of veggies and fruit in to my diet, minimal pasta and white breads (actually haven't had white bread for months and months and months). No coffee. Minimal sugar. Extremely small amounts of junk food ( I allow myself some chocolate, since it is my weakness). Lean meats, and small portions at that, lots of protein either from beans or a protein powder (since it offers lower calories and than other alternatives) and eating breakfast every single day.

This has allowed a 20 pound weight loss since June 1, and a total of 17.5 inches lost since July 10.




This is such a simple thing to do and the answer has always been there. It's a matter of wanting change enough to actually embrace it.

Asking for change in your own image *cue Captain Obvious* means actually doing something about it.

Take a longer walk to your car, take the stairs, pack a healthier lunch, eat smaller portions, etc.

Another thing to look at is how we eat. One person may eat the same amount per day as another but end up less healthy by how they eat the same food.
Eating one or two large meals per day as opposed to eating three smaller meals per day with light snacking between (otherwise known as grazing) helps the body keep working.

Metabolism slows down not only when we don't exercise enough but also when we do not eat often. Our bodies are "tricked" into believing it needs to store fat when we do not eat often so it has nourishment to allow it to function.

Lets say Tom has a huge dinner every day but never eats breakfast and maybe has a small bit for lunch and thats it. He will put on a bit of fat eventually while his friend Jerry who eats three square meals and has a snack here and there (all of proper intake proportions required) will be able to burn the energy intake and keep fit.

It's not a bad thing to go for second helpings at dinner if you had a small plate and are still hungry but be prepared to find a way to burn off that extra.
Battle of the Bulge.
Posted: 9/2/2008 1:54:58 PM
You are what you eat

 energy08

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Posted: 9/2/2008 4:21:27 PM
I'm in the process of trying to lose some pug pounds myself.,so this is what I'm doing.

[1] Give myself incentive ,I'm going to go out and buy a pair of pants with a thirty inch waist,try to squeeze in to them once every night before I go to bed ,and don't give up until they fit .
[2]Visualize how fine my profile main image picture will look with me wearing nothing ,but a fig,well, maple leaf.
[3] eat extremely small meals preferably at two hours intervals .
[4]drink one teaspoon of cod liver oil every day[the fresh stuff that you store in the fridge is best]
[5]cut down on my protein intake from 200g to 150 g[eggs,boiled or pouched,boneless skinless chicken breast,fish[manly tuna,no mayonnaise]
[6]cut way down on my carb intake while trying to stay out of a state of ketosis,you can buy ketosis stix at a drug store,but I have become pretty good at reading my body so I don't use them.You won't have nearly us much energy and may have trouble sleeping ,but endure it .
The good carbs to be taking in are potatoes,and brown rice,no butter,sour cream ,or oil based products.No more then one slice of bread or two cups of pasta a day,and it should be whole wheat.
[7]I continue to go to the gym,but because I wont have as much energy,and my muscles wont grow much on the amount protein I'm consuming ,I concentrate on maintenance rather then growth.
[8]Drink water,get it good and cold it will go down better,Large cups,big swallows.
[9]Take a one a day multi vitamin .
[10]Eat your vegetables,green is best,the greener the better .
Good luck, my friend.
 You go first

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Posted: 9/2/2008 6:23:07 PM
I'm still trying to work out the math on message number 14......
 Smylie

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Posted: 9/2/2008 6:36:33 PM
Keep picking up traffic cones at work every day that the traffic has knocked assunder then go home and spend 45 minutes on wii-fit!
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