| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 11:28:45 AM | Would it be fair to include in a prenuptial that your spouse has to maintain physical health and physique?
I've seen many married women that "let themselves go" right after marriage. It is unreasonable to request in a prenuptial that your wife stays within a certain weight range, and if not, it is grounds for divorce without having to give her half of everything?
I've heard that some people do this. Do their marriage last longer generally? Somehow I think it would facilitate a longer more fulfilling marriage . | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 11:34:19 AM | Just don't get married.
Then if she develops an illness or you find someone better, you can just walk out anyway.
Love does NOT involve trying to put the person you love in a little cage, love is wanting them to be as free as possible to be whatever they will be. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 11:38:31 AM | Good Lord.......not asking much are we?
Someone's physical health can turn on a dime. PFFFT And as for physique..........if physical health changes often so does physique.....sometimes loss of weight..sometimes a gain from certain meds.....it doesnt mean someone is letting themselves go.
If you ever find someone willing to sign a prenup with those conditions......marry her tomorrow...............
And if I was your age I'd want in that prenup that you have the babies.....and your body better not change.......This is one of those times I'm glad I'm old and beyond this nonsense............... | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 11:44:01 AM | You know there was some famous couple a few years ago, I can't remember who it was though. But here is the story, the guy was this wealthy business tycoon in his 50's or 60's and he married a woman in her late 20's. In their pre-nup there was a weight clause. She always had to stay with in 20 lbs (allowing for pregnancy) of her marriage weight. And she signed it and married the guy. This story was in Fourtune, maybe Forbes I am not sure which.
That said, this guy was a multi millionare, who could buy whatever he liked. I have to ask, are you willing to make the same promise? | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 11:47:52 AM | Is it reasonable? No. Is it realistic? No. People age. I would hope to be with someone who wants me to age gracefully with him, not put unrealistic, shallow, societal-induced restrictions on me that I'm supposed to live up to. Personally, I prefer a deeper bond that isn't based purely and selfishly on physicality. I could never feel comfortable and safe with a person whose conditional love is tied to how much I weigh.
And who are you to decide what weight range someone "should" be in?
Get a dog. Feed it low-cal dog food. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 11:51:53 AM | This site never ceases to amaze me.
Just when I thought there couldn't be more bizarre questions.......
I suggest that you don't get married, as rune has stated and then you can just head for the hills if/when that should happen. Why would you even want to get married if you are afraid your spouse perhaps will not maintain what you find physically attractive to you now? Why not just stay single?
This is not love but then again, you didn't say anything about "love" did you. Although in my mind marriage should equal love.
Physical health sometimes cannot be avoided and is sometimes out of anyone's ability to control. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 11:53:35 AM | Just don't bother getting married OP. No matter whether I was fit as hell then there is no way on earth I woudl marry someone who wanted to put that in a pre nup! Good grief! Get over yourself!  | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 11:53:48 AM | What if you decide to have a family? Is it reasonable to expect her to be at the gym working out while she is at home with a newborn, getting a couple of hours of sleep a night and breastfeeding? What if she gets sick - depression or a tumour etc. that makes it impossible for her to get to the gym?
I think if the two of you enjoy an active lifestyle you will stay in shape together. I can't imagine being forced to work out though. No amount of money/support payments would be worth that kind of misery. I am healthy and active because I enjoy it and want to do it, not because my husband bribes me to do it. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 11:55:25 AM | I for one would not sign it as when older """""what you have before marriage is yours """and after marriage it is split 50/50 Now for weight and health that is so crude,,,I am beautiful and have always been blessed with good shape and good .looks however not everyone is that lucky and if I loved a man I would still love him if he became fat or ugly or bald or could not have sex because of health as I am that way as Love is hard to find very hard and I would stand like a rock and respect and love him,,
I suggest you just play House like everyone else with that outlook. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 12:05:43 PM | Nothing can improve the old “to have and to hold, from this day forward; for better, for worse; for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and cherish, till death do us part” like a “no fatties" clause.  | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 12:06:05 PM | It's simple. Don't get married OP. You already seem to be worried about having to give up your half anyway, so why even go there?
And how the hell could you have someone guarantee that their physical health will be optimal even if they take care of themselves?
You have a direct line with sky daddy or something?
I've seen many married women that "let themselves go" right after marriage. Yeah yeah sure and cry me a river. That's funny because I have seen a HUGE amount of men who "let themselves go" after marriage. And they don't even have the body altering experience of pregnancy to blame it on. Oh but I'm sure it's all their wive's fault somehow. Or their mothers. Or their sisters. There's gotta be a woman in there somewhere to blame I'm sure.
Personally I'm sick of always hearing about how women let themselves go after marriage when my experiences and my observations have shown me the EXACT opposite.
Bottom line is don't get married. This way you don't have to worry about a "fat" wife or having to "give up your half".
JMO | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 12:07:19 PM | all i can say is
if you are willing to sign off on a similar line that stipulates that u must not have headaches or are every too tired, and be able to have lasting hardies in perpetuity without the use of 'performance enhancing drugs' then perhaps u found a match in heaven.
as said, stick to prostitutes and vampires
to think i stopped writing most posts cuz it gets stupid and redundant. however, i do appreciate discovering that there is still a greater capacity for stupidity and surficiality than what was previously conceived possible | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 12:13:47 PM | Then if she develops an illness or you find someone better, you can just walk out anyway.
Seriously though, when a woman gets into an accident and becomes disfigured, most men leave the marriage. Women on the other hand stay around and help their husband and remain with him even if he's disfigured and crippled. Men just don't. That's just the horrific reality of it. So it's something we all need to consider. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 12:20:36 PM | 'Seriously though, when a woman gets into an accident and becomes disfigured, most men leave the marriage. Women on the other hand stay around and help their husband and remain with him even if he's disfigured and crippled. Men just don't. That's just the horrific reality of it. So it's something we all need to consider. '
Evidence? Judging by the content of your original post, I would not want to trust your assertion that men will up and run if their partner becomes disfigured (I certainly would not) | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 12:23:29 PM |
I've heard that some people do this. Do their marriage last longer generally? Everything I've read concerning prenuptial agreements shows that these (unusual) clauses are generally used by celebrities and those that make well above average incomes, and aren't grounds for divorce so much as allowing for financial penalties (the weight clauses I read about were $500 for each additional pound, or $100,00 in separate assets if weight is gained over 120lbs). I would think, but can't determine the veracity, by the time the people were ready to get married this subject would already have been discussed and agreed upon, therefore the clause isn't a surprise. Therefore both people have agreed to it.
Somehow I think it would facilitate a longer more fulfilling marriage . I think you are viewing this as a "daddy" clause, where one person can carry around a prenup and say "daddy says you have to do it, you agreed to it, so you have to be this way or you're in trouble," or in other words an external authority,(it's not me, it's the contract, it gives me power) thereby forcing the marriage to last longer instead of seeing it as simply a condition of marriage that both people agree to. I don't know how much fulfillment this would engender unless I was marrying and attempting to maintain an image. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 12:24:52 PM | | I would say that this would be a marriage that is not based on love. If she signed such a thing, she would understand that this is not a "soul mate" loving relationship. It's more like a show. She should stipulate that personal trainers, nutrition chefs, liposuction, or whatever she needs to stay in that form would be available instantly. She should add clauses for all the conditions that would make this requirement impossible. And if she wants to be a sugarbaby, so be it. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 12:30:30 PM | It's called communication ass. If your bride starts to let herself go for whatever reason, you should talk to her about it. If you approached her with a caring attitude, I am sure she would attempt to make a change. Having that clause in a pre-nup is just ridiculous.
If she signed this thing she should include on her end that the marriage is over when you can no longer get it up. Wouldn't suprise me if you have already hit that point though. | |
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| Prenuptial - maintaining physique - is it reasonable? Posted: 9/6/2008 12:35:05 PM |
Seriously though, when a woman gets into an accident and becomes disfigured, most men leave the marriage. Women on the other hand stay around and help their husband and remain with him even if he's disfigured and crippled. Men just don't. That's just the horrific reality of it. So it's something we all need to consider.
Gapeboy, it's blatantly clear from your posting history that you're nothing but a troll whose sole objective is to pizz-off women by making insulting, degrading comments.
Seems you slipped up on this one, though. In your eager attempt to humiliate, what you've actually done is labeled women as the superior ones while making men look like worthless, second-rate clods.
Way to go!!  | |
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