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 Mr_Simple
Joined: 3/26/2005
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Damn those terrorists!!

Canada showed a survey yesterday that showed that 70% of Canadian youth feel that the United States is a Evil Empire. Yet we are biggest buyer of their GNP. The youth feel America is handling terrorism completely wrong. I have a FTA receiver and have been watching Canadian TV and I really believe they hate us down here.

They fly airplanes into our buildings! (Usama Bin Laden)
They blow up our ships (The Cole)
They Blow up Embassy's (Brittish, US, German, China, Usama Bin Laden)
They bomb trains (US, Spain, Japan, USSR)
They bomb theaters (Moscow, Japan )
They mass murder (Saddam, Hitler, Castro, Usama Bin lasin)
They behead the innocent
They attack the population with no warning.
They kill more children than war. (Saddam, Hitler, Mussolini, Kim II Sung, Kim Jong)
They believe Life is not precious.

* I believe bio-weapons are the same as bombings. So don't go there.

The United States says stop it, America says we will hunt you down and stop you. The United States follows through and we are the bad guys? Go Figure! Given the chance I would make UBL eat pig feces and bury him in a vat of pigs blood!

Spain is caving in. France has installed backup lights on their tanks. France is so far to the left they can see the ass end of the extreme right! (It's a Circle thing you have to be a physicist to understand this theory.)

If peace was really wanted in the Middle East the U.S.A. Would be out of there yesterday.
The United Sates has really been a Nation of Liberators rather than dominator's.
The populous of the United States has been more giving than any other nation in the world.


There are countries that support this type of thinking. What is wrong with going after them?
There are people who want to kill us for no reason! What is wrong with getting them first?
There are people who will not stop until we are all dead! What is wrong with stopping them?
There are people who believe it is Ok to kill innocent and children to make a point. What is wrong with killing them first?
There are people who feel freedom is evil. What is wrong with taking away their freedom to kill?

When countries get in to trouble they look to us to protect them. Go Figure.

Ok everyone it is your turn to Slam the United States and Americans. Tell us what terrible people we are.


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 alienboy
Joined: 9/10/2004
Msg: 2
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Posted: 6/15/2005 9:10:42 AM
The problem is that bombing a city like Fallujah to rubble, leaving hundreds of thousands of Iraqis without electricitly or fresh water... its kinda like saying we're gonna solve the crime problem in Detroit by bombing it. No one denies criminals and terrorists should be caught. But I wouldn't want my whole neighbourhood bombed just because there's a criminal gang around here.

Even worse, attacking Iraq is almost like trying to solve the crime problem in Detroit by bombing Chicago. Even if the mayor of Chicago was a mob-boss... doesn't really make sense.
 GenJackRipper
Joined: 5/18/2005
Msg: 3
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Posted: 6/15/2005 9:13:11 AM
This has everything to do with Bush using 911 as an excuse to attack iraq and his threats to many other nations.

People aren't stupid. He's an incompetent fool and he's made our nation an international agressor and a stupid one at that; getting us into a war we can't get out of.
 Mr_Simple
Joined: 3/26/2005
Msg: 4
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Posted: 6/15/2005 9:50:42 AM
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I forgot about GenJackRipper I knew he would turn this into a "Bush Bash"

What does that have to do with Canadian youth believing that the United States is Evil.

They even felt that way under Clinton.

Good Grief!



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 JacksSmerkingRevenge
Joined: 4/16/2005
Msg: 5
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Posted: 6/15/2005 10:01:25 AM
Wow Mr. Simple! It's good to hear your an expert on Canadian youth!
 Pantimann
Joined: 1/10/2005
Msg: 6
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Posted: 6/15/2005 10:42:10 AM
Mr. Simple , I understand why this is so confusing to you, you see the laundry list that you give shows you as a victim, it doesn't show the true side of your foreign policy, the side that CAUSED your list to happen. Perhaps Canadian youth has been taught the rest of your history, the part you either don't know or refuse to acknowledge.

Over throwing foreign governments so that American big business can prosper, or Governments friendly to the US can be installed, see Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Dominican Republic to name only a few.

Installing dictators in the middle east see the Shah.

Using WMD to kill millions in Viet Nam

Arming Israel to the teeth including N weapons while telling the rest of the middle east, "you can't have any". Siding over and over with Israel in the UN while they commit war crimes on a daily basis.


The hipocrisy that IS America, is not lost on most educated people outside of the US. You see they don't hear the unending internal propaganda that you hear. Learn to live with the attacks, as I believe they will only intensify.
 GenJackRipper
Joined: 5/18/2005
Msg: 7
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Posted: 6/15/2005 11:27:52 AM
Well Mr. Simple: The world was our oyster when Clinton was in office. Bush turned that around... now nobody trusts us.

U figure it out.

You and Bush can preach about how bad and weak the world outside the US is but... what if they disagree?

What then?
 Coati
Joined: 12/4/2004
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Posted: 6/15/2005 11:28:50 AM

They fly airplanes into our buildings! (Usama Bin Laden)


Not Iraq.


They blow up our ships (The Cole)


Not Iraq.


They Blow up Embassy's (Brittish, US, German, China, Usama Bin Laden)


Not Iraq.


They bomb trains (US, Spain, Japan, USSR)


Not Iraq.


They bomb theaters (Moscow, Japan )


Not Iraq.


They mass murder (Saddam, Hitler, Castro, Usama Bin lasin)


You can add Bush to this list as well, considering the number of civilians dead in Iraq since the invasion.

Also, does this mean that the US will be militarily engaging all countries where mass murder is taking place? That would be laudable. When will the first troops be leaving for Sudan or Uzbekistan?


They behead the innocent


Not Iraq pre-invasion...


They attack the population with no warning.


Not Iraq.


They kill more children than war. (Saddam, Hitler, Mussolini, Kim II Sung, Kim Jong)


Hitler - yes. The others, you'll have to cite some sources...


They believe Life is not precious.


Subjective. Not necessarily true. However, you can say without a doubt that certain Americans have no regard for the Iraqi lives being lost in the conflict.. (ex. The military isn't even counting dead civilians - a military spokesman said something like "We don't do body counts...)

So, despite only one of the things you mentioned on your list applying to Iraq, please explain why the US invaded it. In the process killing thousands of civilians and laying waste to the entire country's infrastructure...

Think really hard and you might begin to see why some consider the US to be "evil."
 Mr_Simple
Joined: 3/26/2005
Msg: 9
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Posted: 6/15/2005 11:35:58 AM
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“Wow Mr. Simple! It's good to hear your an expert on Canadian youth! “

It was one of your own reporters that stated it on Canadian TV.


“you see the laundry list that you give shows you as a victim .”

You are blind and can not read what I wrote. I Said Spain was hit, Russia, Japan, The Arab's own people and others that were too numerous to mention.


“Arming Israel to the teeth including N weapons while telling the rest of the middle east, "you can't have any" “

You are correct. The Jews should not have any nation of their own. All Jews should just go someplace and die. Now that we know that Pantimann does not like Jews and believes they should not have any land to call their own. How sad. Why didn't you just say it this way. “Death to all Jews! Israel is a nation that needs to disappear!”

Good Grief


edit: Coati that was one of the most stupid posts you have made so far.



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 Coati
Joined: 12/4/2004
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Posted: 6/15/2005 11:46:45 AM
Coati that was one of the most stupid posts you have made so far.


How so? Did you even read it?

Stupid posts are those that are made and then not justified. Like yours.
 Pantimann
Joined: 1/10/2005
Msg: 11
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Posted: 6/15/2005 12:03:28 PM
Again the war monger attacks the message having no argument against the facts. I do believe that that only way that you'll get it, is when you are made to suffer as America has made others suffer. Then the real crying will start, "why won't people help us?" we've been so good to everyone in the world...... wha wha wha. Debating with you is hopeless, you refuse to look at facts when they don't fit your agenda. Enjoy your very small world!!
 paddler
Joined: 9/29/2004
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Posted: 6/15/2005 12:17:40 PM
The view of America held by Canadian youth is also shared by the majority of Asians and Europeans. If the Yanks were actually helping people instead of invading and occupying country's, maintaining a gulag in Cuba and commiting war crimes and crimes against humanity in Afganistan and Iraq then maybe the world's view of the US wouldm be different. The world sees the US for what it is; a bully nation and a rogue state.
 paddler
Joined: 9/29/2004
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Posted: 6/15/2005 12:30:09 PM
Looks like uncle sam gets as good as he gives.

Your sob story is falling on deaf ears. Start to live your principles rather than just talk about them.

Close the torture camps in Iraq, Afganistan and Cuba, would be a nicwe start. Honour your treaty obligations would be another. Obey international and humanitarian law instead flouting it.

Basicaslly stop all the BUSH Shi**ing....er Bull Sh....oh you know.
 JacksSmerkingRevenge
Joined: 4/16/2005
Msg: 14
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Posted: 6/15/2005 1:25:51 PM

It was one of your own reporters that stated it on Canadian TV.


Oh.. I get it now.

Unlike America, Canada very rarely bows down and worships what the magic picture box tells us.
 hac3011
Joined: 5/27/2005
Msg: 15
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Posted: 6/15/2005 3:24:58 PM
Boys boys....I see we cannot play well in the sandbox together. Mr. Simple, face it the world overall thinks that Americans are shit because of our invasion of Iraq and other atrocities that our current Administration is turning a blind eye too. What I would like to make all of you aware that want to bash Americans is that not all of us are in agreement with what the current administration is doing. Not all of us voted for the idiot that claims to be running our country and to lump us with him is well rather insulting. There is more to this country that our President and what he supports.

As far as what Mr. Simple originally posted....well take it for what it is worth. Most of the media is slanted one way or the other to favor what you personally want to believe. I think maybe some of you need brush up on your critical thinking skills before posting comments like I have seen in this forum. Just my thoughts!
 igotoosu
Joined: 7/28/2004
Msg: 16
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Posted: 6/15/2005 3:42:21 PM
Bush is definitely the terrorist and He is also the reason for hatred toward america.

Believe me, we hate him too.
 pedrothemarine
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 17
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Posted: 6/15/2005 3:49:10 PM
Simple minded civilians..... idealists and hypocrites all the same.... the war IS about oil, IS being fought in the wrong country, IS going nowhere, etc. Terrorists are the scourge of the earth, and should all be erased from the global surface. These animals saw off human beings' heads like they are tree branches, preach to their children to kill all who disagree with their beliefs, and will not stop until the world is in agreeance with them. WHO ARE THE TRUE IMPERIALISTS??? WHO IS REALLY TRYING TO START A NEW WORLD ORDER??? Not the U.S., hypocritical, uneducated anti-war, anti-Bush, anti-U.S.-defending-itself preachers of self hate. WE are not wrong for trying to spread influence in "developing nations"... The only way these nations will ever stop being the doormat for the rest of the world and drag themselves out of the mud of poverty, disease, and violence is to wrest the control of their respective nations from the gangs of theives that hold a death grip on power and give it to the people. The US is undoubtably thirsty for oil (we consume 55% of all oil produced) and we know where to get it. DUH. But, we are not interested in contolling the entire oil-producing world. Not everything is oil..... we would rather have trading partners worldwide that are valuable allies and sources of commerce- and how do we repay them for the oil we incessantly quest for? Pump money in, build up infrastructure, improve living conditions, and offer hope to the nations who are satuated in wealth potential but have been mismanaged for so long, they are considered 3rd world. Where do you think doctors worldwide are trained? Mostly in the US- so they can take our superior training and better their homelands... If the US truly wanted to rule the world, education would not be allowed to anyone but ourselves- but instead we actively accept applicants worldwide because we know that passing information to everyone-equally, without prejudice- improves the quality of the world as a whole, not just our nation. The war IS just--misguided in area of operation right now, but just.That's my rant
 hac3011
Joined: 5/27/2005
Msg: 18
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Posted: 6/15/2005 3:55:47 PM
And boy you can rant...just wanted to point out to you that I am may be a civilian now, but I served my country proudly for six years in the U.S. Marine Corps. While you may feel oil is the bottom line with the invasion of Iraq and many would agree with you, but I honestly do not think that is the case. Should our country go after the terrorists that attacked us? Well of course we should and we did...except for some reason Osama bin Laden has outsmarted our President. (Are we really suprised by this?) Yes I am very much anti-Bush and think he is a blooming idiot, but I believe the topic was about how the world views us as Americans and well ...I think maybe the world thinks we are all idiots because they are reading posts like the one above me.
 youcantfindme
Joined: 5/23/2005
Msg: 19
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Posted: 6/15/2005 4:01:05 PM
All the anti-americanism Anti Bush preachers looked more or less blind there.. remember CA elected the wrong people for twice themselves, Bush is a better cadidate for american citizens than Kerry, it is their choice they know what it is good for them than people living in rest of the world, I am not a supporter of either - just speaking from objective view. It seems a touchy trigger topic I bet most americans who live in Canada get tired/disgusted by people rudely accuse them of electing Bush. America has done both good and bad things, don't be too biased noone is innocent it's human nature when you are powerful you do whatever you want, it just happened to be America.
 bunomatic
Joined: 3/13/2005
Msg: 20
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Posted: 6/15/2005 4:43:59 PM
As a Canadian,and proud of it,I'll wade in mr.Simple.First off don't suggest that Canadians hate americans.What you have to understand is that the media will take a story like this and run with it.It could have been from the mouth of one person and it's taken as gospel for what all Canadians believe.It's bullshit.True some Canadians believe that the current American administration is hell bent on world domination at any and all costs.Culturally,economically,you name it.And by at any cost I mean to the enviroment.But there are just as many that count Americans as great friends and neighbors.There are people here that agree with what Bush is doing as well.There are American flags flown in cars and on peoples homes to show respect for what America is doing.After 911 and while Canadian troups were side by side with your guys it was almost an epidemic to see American flags here.But you've never been here to properly guage for yourself what the sentiment is.All you've got to go by is what the media feeds you.And the fact you're eatin what they feed you is the cause for alarm.After 911 I'd venture to guess there was almost 100% support for the U.S.A. here in Canada.In Afganistan it was the same.In the hunt for Osama,the same.Go into Iraq on false pretences and people think differently.THEY THINK DIFFERENTLY.The fact remains that we think for ourselves.We are not your little brother to do as you say,we are a sovereign nation.We have our own oppinions and sometimes they won't jive with yours.who cares.To suggest that we hate you and think you're a terrorist based on what the media tells you is idiotic.Get over it america.Hopefully not as many Americans hate Canadians cause based on what we hear on cnn....
 snowboardnut
Joined: 4/27/2005
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Posted: 6/15/2005 6:23:28 PM
terrorist are the lowest kind of person on earth. that being said, its not right to answer everything we do wrong with "3000 died on 9/11". this excuse has been used to lead us into a false war with no apparent end in sight. the thing we should learn from 9/11 is to change our policy towards the middle east. instead we decided to create countless more terrorist more hell bent on destroying us then ever before. apparently 9/11 was a wake up call alot of us missed.

if you are really onboard with the "lets do what we want, because 9/11 happened" crowd, then you really need to hire someone to think for you. either that or you just want to kill arabs for revenge. the latter is against christian principles, so be aware. the republican party talks about values all day, while at the same time if christ saw the "values" that they really support they would be sent to hell. and yes, this certainly does relate to foreign AND domestic policy.
 Rabidcanadian
Joined: 2/6/2005
Msg: 22
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Posted: 6/21/2005 9:37:17 PM
[They fly airplanes into our buildings! (Usama Bin Laden)]
And the usa bombs thiers
[They blow up our ships (The Cole)]
If they had ships the usa would attack them
[They Blow up Embassy's (Brittish, US, German, China, Usama Bin Laden)]

They bomb trains (US, Spain, Japan, USSR)
They bomb theaters (Moscow, Japan )
[They mass murder (Saddam, Hitler, Castro, Usama Bin lasin)]
so does bush- just look at Iraq
[They behead the innocent]
Point being? the usa kills the innocent too just with bullets and bombs. How is it any differant?
[They attack the population with no warning.]
Once again the americans have done exactly the same thing.
[They kill more children than war. (Saddam, Hitler, Mussolini, Kim II Sung, Kim Jong)]
The usa has killed more Iraqi childern then Saddam
[They believe Life is not precious.]
And american believe only american life is precious. I am not an anti american Canadian, I am just pro Canadian and anti bush.

Face it, bush run usa is not any differant then those you claim to be terrorists.
 Eddie1979
Joined: 6/20/2005
Msg: 23
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Posted: 6/21/2005 10:01:27 PM
There is no us and them, no "they." One world, one humanity. Until and your leaders learn to understand that concept you will not get respect from much of the world.
 MajMikeW
Joined: 10/9/2004
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Posted: 6/22/2005 6:32:22 AM
Eddie

Your post is a wonderful statement, and I wish it were true. However, the sentiment you expressed while being an ideal is not the reality. There should be only "us", but given human nature there is most definitely a "them".

As long as dictators, greedy killers, or other totalitarian govt's exist there will be an us and them, people are flawed and act in their best interests usually, not considering the ideal of joint destiny. Leaders murder their citizens, rape their lands, and bleed their nations dry. To not see such people as 'them' is unrealistic.

Please don't think America doesn't understand, we understand all too well the nature of men and politics, even amongst our supposed allies. Other nations understand as well, they may pay lip-service to globalization but the bottom line to them is their nations needs, including noble France, whose people just rejected the EU constitution as unfavorable to them.

Lastly, a reminder: being a majority does not mean they are correct, just as being in the minority does not mean one is wrong.

MajMike
 Laguna Joe
Joined: 6/10/2005
Msg: 25
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Posted: 6/22/2005 10:54:30 AM
First of all, who are THEY? to me, THEY is the us gov't, who is reading this right now (no joke!).
Secondly, if Dubya is such a saviour of downtrodden people, where's the US forces in Zimbabwe, Sudan, Congo, etc. oh yeah, there's no oil there for american soccer moms and their ford excursions. my mistake.
Third, you're very pompous to talk about WWII, considering your ****ing country didn't show up until after pearl harbor. big stand against tyranny, there...
Fourth, Saddam is one of the most evil men to ever live, no doubt. so how come all of his armaments are stamped 'Made in USA'? oh yeah, cos daddy bush thought in the 80's that he could do in Iran what sonny did in Iraq. incidentally, that's called imperialism. i'm canadian, i know all aboot it, eh?
Lastly, if you want peace in the Middle East (like the people there do!), set Israel up with rhode island and be done with it. geez!
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