| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/19/2008 8:52:55 PM | | Is ANYBODY else offended by either e-mails or Profiles that positively butcher the English Language? I completely understand 'typos' and occasional faux pas. (I am certainly guilty myself) but, I am constantly amazed at the complete lack of language skills! It completely TURNS me off! ; I wish it didn't. I might, indeed, be missing out as a result! Men e-mail me, presumably with the intent of initiating a relati0nship, and I am so 'turned-off' by their grammer and spelling errors! Does anybody else feel the same way, or am I just being too critical and picky???? | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/19/2008 9:10:59 PM |
Does anybody else feel the same way, or am I just being too critical and picky???? oN thsi dya and age oF computrs their is nO reas'n for pour spellin or grammer with speil check an all. Totaly terns me off.................... | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/20/2008 5:11:56 AM | I have gone out with several women on this site who can barely read. They can still be just as nice and as good a person as others. It would be nice if they had someone else write their profiles. Then they could just provide a short section written by them so that you are aware that they are nearly illiterate.
In most cases the experience of dating someone who is very intelligent and well read isn't much different than dating someone who has nearly no education at all. It was actually a surprising fact to me. I suppose there are smart women who intellectualize everything, but I haven't met any. | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/20/2008 5:23:54 AM | | Wow!!! I'm shocked. A very good response from you. Dang, I didn't know you had it in ya LOL. Does not matter the education of the man or woman. It's what's inside that counts along with one's own eyes as to the beauty he/her sees in the other. | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/20/2008 6:33:45 AM | | "It's what's inside that counts........". I completely agree with you and thank you for your response. However, having said that, I guess I consider language skills as important to me as I do proper table manners! It doesn't mean that I am not open minded or that I am judgemental or think less of someone. (Heck - I made two errors on my original post:))). Bottom Line: TO EACH HIS OWN! There are, indeed, PLENTY OF FISH to go around and I have come to the conclusion that I want to swim with relatively 'articulate' fish! That is ONLY my choice not a judgement of others! | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/20/2008 6:56:54 AM |
I have come to the conclusion that I want to swim with relatively 'articulate' fish! That is ONLY my choice not a judgement of others!
It's what's on the inside that counts
I agree with both, however, the heart and brain are two different parts of "what's on the inside" . I agree with SRQ, I do not want to go through life explaining the comic section in the newspaper to someone, and most importantly, I would like them to understand the explaination if need be..... Note: Education and intelligence do not always go hand in hand.....You just can't fix dumb.....  | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/20/2008 7:36:34 AM | If you stop being an OSU fan, it might improve your intelligence. On the table manners thing, yes, there is a limit for me too LOL. Being educated is not necessary to intelligence or common sense. Some people don't have the opportunity for an education at a formal school, but, if they pay attention to things said by knowledgable and elders, they get a much better education. No formal school can make a person act as a decent human being. That has to come from the inside.
The most famous woman I knew personally was my grandmother. Why famous? Well, she could speak English or French, but, could not read or write in either. Signed her name with an "X". Grandfather died at a young age. In those days, women were to be housewives and not required to do anything else. She had 4 children. They wore one set of clothes to school for the whole year. She cleaned house and ironed for a living and that living was not much. Never owned a house or car. When she died, the funeral home had more flowers than they had ever had. The people poured in from the poor to the rich and famous. All because she pushed her children. Two of my uncles graduated tops in their HS class and that was with going to school and working p/t jobs to help. They joined the military in WWII. After discharge, they used their GI Bill on the advice of my grandmother who again could not read or write. Both ended up with PhD's. Both rose to the top of their fields in education in the state of Louisiana. One was president of the secondary education board and the other was state supervisor of education for adults. The flowers came from family, locals, state officials, U.S. Congressmen and U.S. Senators all the way to LBJ.
This story in part was published in the late 1960's in the South's largest news paper out of New Orleans. All I'm saying is that you don't have to have an education to be the best you can be and be respected by others. Never judge a book by it's cover. | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/20/2008 1:36:31 PM | I agree that some of the writings border on the incoherent and I get chastised for being a member of the "Grammar Police"
I use the spell checker on google toolbar to make sure what I send is spelled correctly and reread before sending to ensure that it is intelligible. | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/20/2008 10:35:39 PM | Education does not equal intelligence... nor does it equal, class, sophistication, EQ, relationship skills, ability to earn an income etc. But like others have said, I dont want to spend my time explaining the sunday funnies either.
Is there such a thing as well rounded on POF (and I dont mean physical shape either! ) | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/21/2008 6:52:32 PM | SRQnat, I am in complete agreement with you! I have read the other posts and agree that it is your character that is most important, however, I can't or won't get that far if my first impression of you is that you are unable to put together a proper sentence.
Consider it something of an application - you are sending a message applying for someone's attention. What do you want them to think? I would think you would want them to see you as a well-rounded person with a variety of interests and a person that they can have a decent conversation with. When you present yourself well, that makes me want to get to know you better. It's the same thing when you apply for a job. You want to put your best foot forward.
When I receive a message that is full of grammar and spelling errors it speaks to me. It generally tells me that we aren't going to be able to relate well to one another. It says that I will probably be explaining myself often, which is frustrating. It says that you will more than likely be uncomfortable in social settings because you are likely not well read. Finally, it says that you possibly have not been motivated towards continuous improvement, which is acceptable if you are content with where you are in life. Most of the people I have met in my life have on some level, a desire to grow, learn, and acquire new skills. It may work in the beginning, but you will eventually grow apart.
All that being said, there is a place for shorthand (OMG, BFF, IMHO, etc.), and I use it when I'm text or instant messaging. When I'm drafting an email or introducing myself to someone new, I stick with proper English. | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/21/2008 7:30:09 PM | Is there such a thing as well rounded on POF (and I dont mean physical shape either!
Absolutely, and she has the most perfectly rounded set of 40D's I've ever seen. And what a joy to be around....Thanks POF.....Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Intelligent and articulate..One more time, Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/23/2008 1:04:50 PM |
Note: Education and intelligence do not always go hand in hand.....You just can't fix dumb.....  I couldn't RESIST posting this! I was surfing some other posts and stumbled across one that queried: "Why aren't there more Christians on this site?" One of the responses was (and I am paraphrasing): "I am NOT a Christian......I worship 'Satin'! " ..........and I don't want any of those free-loading Christians on this site". Personally, I AM a Christian and I have nothing against Satin but I prefer Silk:)  | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/23/2008 4:40:00 PM | I am right there with you. I am a grammar nut; I blame it on one of my high school English teachers. lol
It's not the most important thing by no means, but it's important enough.
Cindy | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/25/2008 3:14:19 AM | | Years ago, when I was in HS, there was a dividing line between men and women. Women corrected us on our grammer and word usage and we helped them with their math homework. So, has anything changed? | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/25/2008 5:35:20 AM | I believe that it speaks for itself, as to the intelligence of worshipping 'Satin.' As I gather from the thread of your conversational posts, what's inside plays the all encompssing factor as to whether a person is right for you but the pool you would like to start off from should consist of well brought up young men that you can converse with. When I got to this country I had to loose half my word useage as most people in the States do not use the word base we learn as children in conversation and at school. It was redundant and just made life difficult. No fault of any individual. Just a collective osmosis. My son disdains the use of words that his peers will not use every day in their live's (???} No I see your point of view and laud it | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/25/2008 7:10:13 AM | I just KNOW I am going to regret this, but another case of my not being able to resist! The response of: men helping women with their math homework was such a 'CLASSIC'! The ONLY reason Men helped WOMEN with their MATH......was that men wanted to convince women that 6 inches was really 8 inches! SO - in answer to the question.....you are CORRECT........nothing has changed!;)))) | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 9/25/2008 7:16:22 PM | For me personally misspelled words and double negatives are a turn off. One of my daughters is working toward a Masters in English and answers a lot of punctuation questions for me. The English language is so difficult to master and I admire anyone who has studied it enough to teach the subject in it's entirety. Spell Check Rules  | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 12/24/2008 8:08:11 AM |
Men e-mail me, presumably with the intent of initiating a relati0nship, and I am so 'turned-off' by their grammer and spelling errors
I am resurrecting this thread temporarily! First of all.........I noticed that I said the word "MEN" instead of fish! .....just points out how far I have fallen since September!
I received an e-mail recently that was SO fraught with spelling errors ................BUT..........I am so VERY attracted to the picture, the profile, etc. that I am TEMPTED to pursue and reciprocate! Have I lowered my 'standards' in the last few months?......Have I become less 'idealistic' and more 'realistic'?..........I'm 'pondering' .........any thoughts? | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 12/24/2008 8:55:03 AM | we all misuse words, misspell words, occasionally slip in our grammer but when its consistent I bail.
And my pet peave (besides capris and toe rings) is the consistent misuse of there and their... and other homonym mistakes... we all do them but when its consistent its like nails on a chalkboard to me. | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 12/24/2008 9:08:34 AM | ^^^^^^I've never had a pet peave. Are they hard to care for? What do they eat? Do you have to walk them or will a litter box suffice? (He said wearing his capris and toe rings.) | |
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| Butchering the English Language Posted: 12/24/2008 9:22:37 AM |
And my pet peave (besides capris and toe rings) is the consistent misuse of there and their... and other homonym mistakes... we all do them but when its consistent its like nails on a chalkboard to me.
And I’m SURE that PEAT knows that it’s a Pet PEEVE………..and his post is yet another example of his keen sense of HUMOR!! Kind of like ME - misspelling grammar in my original post!! (IN my case it WAS an error)…….I was brand NEW and SO embarrassed!.
I'm still 'on the fence' on this one.
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