| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/21/2008 8:10:04 PM | What to do
My daughter getting married next year
i rented the hall paid for the dinner
Tonight she informs me she and here hubby to be are now vegans
Do you think they a purposely try to drive me insane lol
What’s a guy to do??
Pulling what little hair I got left out
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/21/2008 8:22:32 PM |
Veganism is a diet and lifestyle that seeks to exclude the use of animals for food, clothing, or any other purpose. Vegans endeavor not to use or consume animal products of any kind. The most common reasons for becoming a vegan are an ethical commitment or moral convictions concerning animal rights, the environment, human health, and spiritual or religious concerns. Of particular concern are the practices involved in factory farming and animal testing, and the intensive use of land and other resources required for animal farming.
Vegan diets (sometimes called strict or pure vegetarian diets) are a subset of vegetarian diets, which are credited with lowering the risk of colon cancer, heart attack, high blood cholesterol, high blood pressure, prostate cancer, and stroke. Properly planned vegan diets are healthful and have been found to satisfy nutritional needs. However, poorly planned vegan diets can be low in levels of calcium, iodine, vitamin B12 and vitamin D. Vegans are therefore encouraged to plan their diet and take dietary supplements as appropriate.
What seems to be the problem? Just plan for a vegetarian dinner for the bride and groom ... and any others who RSVP as needing the vegetarian dinner. The rest can have the regular food ... eh? | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/21/2008 8:24:44 PM | Yes she did. Studies have proven that the only reason children become vegans is to drive their parents NUTS.
ok, real answer...
I've been in the hospitality industry for many years. Find out how many of their invitees are vegan and tell the hall to prepare that many vegan dinners.
Happens all the time (vegan/vegetarian/no gluten/etc). Any good hall will be able to handle it in stride.
They may be stuck eating pasta with marinara but everyone will be fed. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/21/2008 8:36:49 PM |
i rented the hall paid for the dinner
Tonight she informs me she and here hubby to be are now vegans
Do you think they a purposely try to drive me insane lol
What’s a guy to do??
By all means, make sure that there is a vegan entree, that some people can choose. For the rest of the guests, including you, you can have something normal available. It's an extra hassle to have to ask everyone to specify, but it's the only winning strategy I can see. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/21/2008 8:41:14 PM | Have to agree here, I can't remember the last event I attended that did not have a vegetarian option selection. I doubt their choice is to drive YOU nuts - after all, it's THEIR wedding! I certainly would not offer every possible option (gluten free, low carb, etc LOL) but these are two standard choices. If it were a WEEK before the wedding I'd be pissed and say suck it up and have a carrot... weddings are stressful times as it is, relax, there are far more important things to worry about then being stressed because the happy couple want a meal at their own wedding they will enjoy.  | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/21/2008 9:15:23 PM | Well I have been told No milk products, No egg products, No animal based sauces, or soups. Just Soya this that and the other.
I have only one saving grace and it is selfish. I just hope she gives the ex the same amount of grief over the wedding dress and brides maids dress.
Thank god I only have one daughter. But in all seriousness I’ll do what ever it takes to make her special day her special day. Even if I am bald by then lol
But having them served a carrot does sound interesting lmao | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/22/2008 1:52:51 PM | | Have the bride call the caterer and deal with it herself. At worst case they can eat dry salads. You are paying you have done enough. | |
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~Kyn~
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/22/2008 2:16:47 PM | OP Im a chef and specialise in dietary specifics.
Just get the bride and groom to calculate numbers of vegan guests and pass the information to the manager or directly to the Head Chef... including table numbers and seating arrangements if thats finalised because you dont want the wrong meals going to the wrong people.
Whatever you do...when handing them the information...be absolutely specific you detail they are VEGAN.... and NOT vegetarian.
Because there is a HUGE difference.
Vegans for example are not even allowed to eat jelly/jello as it contains gelatin which is an animal product.
Btw...if the chef is worth anything at all...there should not be any drama or excess costs associated with this. They should have a menu to cater for this exact situation.
Incidentally orthodox vegans dont eat seafood.
Oh just a footnote...dunno who's doing the cake...but it'd be nice if someone could organize a vegan wedding cake as well.
Would be a nice touch for the bride and groom. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/22/2008 3:19:47 PM |
Incidentally orthodox vegans dont eat seafood.
Actually, no vegetarian eats fish/seafood. The correct term for people who eat no meat except fish is pescetarian. I would think a vegan wedding would be preferred for the person paying. Steak and seafood are expensive. Beans and rice are cheap. | |
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~Kyn~
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/22/2008 3:38:31 PM | Actually, no vegetarian eats fish/seafood.
Actually MANY vegetarians eat seafood. Most IME.
Vegans not eating seafood is a no brainer...but was mentioned in the thread so I commented to it.
Pescetarian is a rarely used term amongst the general population. You'd be hard pressed to find a specified menu item under that label or even something as simple as a coeliac offer to be completely honest.
Most people dont even know the difference between vegetarianism and veganism let alone what a pescetarian is.
What the precise definition is and what people actually title themselves as and are familiar with is two completely different things.
Its kinda like...theory vs practice.
Thats why people need to be specific if they have a dietary requirement.
Particularly in cases where its an allergy issue ...cos if you dont have an Epipen handy...
Anaphylaxis and Game over. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/23/2008 10:33:16 AM | | I am sorry but I must correct you on the definition of vegetarian. Some people may call themselves vegetarian and eat fish, but they are not vegetarians. I am a vegetarian - lacto-ovo vegetarian - the more liberal kind. If you don't believe me, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian. I realize people don't necessarily know the difference between vegetarians, vegans, etc. However, I am just trying to set the record straight. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/23/2008 12:27:38 PM | | I don't eat any red meat,no dairy,no sugar(except what's naturally in fruits and veggies)no soy,no white flour,no white rice.What does that make me?I do eat eggs,seafood and chicken.No caffiene either! | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/23/2008 6:04:53 PM |
I don't eat any red meat,no dairy,no sugar(except what's naturally in fruits and veggies)no soy,no white flour,no white rice.What does that make me?I do eat eggs,seafood and chicken.No caffiene either!
I guess that would make you a guy who doesn't eat eat any red meat,no dairy,no sugar(except what's naturally in fruits and veggies)no soy,no white flour,no white rice and no caffeine. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 9/23/2008 8:29:38 PM | They may be stuck eating pasta with marinara but everyone will be fed. If all a chef can come up with is pasta and marinara, he isn't worth his salt as a chef.
If you don't agree with it tell them they can fund their own wedding. I never understood the parents paying thing anyway. If you're doing it as a gift, then give them the money and let them do what they want with it, since it is the MONEY that is the gift, not the specifics they buy with it.
Vegetarians do not eat animals. Fish are animals. Just because some moron decides to call themselves vegetarian while eating fish does not make them a vegetarian. I can call myself black if I want. Doesn't make it so. The catholics fuckered that one up with the "no meat on fridays, but we'll eat fish" thing.
Anyhoo... are YOU doing the planning, or are they? If they're doing the planning then it shouldn't matter a lick to you if they've decided to go vegan. If you're doing the planning as well as the paying, then the least they can do is find a caterer who knows what they're doing.
Generally speaking, if someone has an issue with another person's diet or lifestyle, that's their problem. I can't believe how many people freak out or make comments about my diet, as if it affects them. There is nothing I "can't" eat, only things I don't want to eat.
I don't eat any red meat,no dairy,no sugar(except what's naturally in fruits and veggies)no soy,no white flour,no white rice.What does that make me?I do eat eggs,seafood and chicken.No caffiene either! An omnivore. Just like someone who eats fish. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 12/27/2008 10:25:44 PM | | The best thing to do is not use the food that is made by the venue you are renting (i.e the hall, banquet room, hotel, etc.) because the food is usually not very good. I've been to a bunch of weddings, and the vegan food is always very very bad. Easy answer, find out which vegan restaurant they really *love* and surprise they with catering from that restaurant (or other vegan restaurant that does catering). | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 12/27/2008 10:40:08 PM | | Just have whoever is catering to have some vegan items available, and if there's a buffet, a little "vegan" sign in front of those ones. Its cheaper for them to make anyway, since no meat or animal products (eggs, gelatin, whatever). | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 12/28/2008 3:47:34 AM | Is it too late to make menu adjustments? Just because the two of them decided to be vegans, the rest of the party does not have to change their menu.
I could not possibly tell you if they do it to drive you insane, only you can know.
But unless it's too late to make adjustments, let them make it (only to their 2 meals). And let them arrange this, don't do it yourself. And be cool about it. If they are serious about their veganism, they will go and arrange it themselves. You have done enough by the sound of it. Good luck,
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 12/28/2008 4:44:13 AM |
Vegans for example are not even allowed to eat jelly/jello as it contains gelatin which is an animal product.
Vegetarians don't eat gelatin either. And obeythepug is correct about fish --- vegetarians don't eat that either.
Vegetarian = no food made from dead animals.
Vegan = no animal products whatsoever, from animals living or dead. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 12/28/2008 5:04:24 AM | | i attended a friend's wedding a few yrs back who was a vegan..what she did to be fair to everyone was to just order herself a vegetarian meal and everyone else had meat..worked out great..don't think you need to panic. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 12/28/2008 10:26:51 AM | Since the thread was put up in September, are they married already?
From the repost it sounds as if the bride and groom were planning to force their eating habits on others, and I don't think that is right just as it is probably difficult for people that are vegans to go to a reception that has not provided some non-meat selections or entrees for guests that do not eat meat.
If the wedding has not already happened, I would suggest what others have, the "normal" menu with vegan options for those that choose them. Also, the suggestion of having the favorite restaurant handle a portion of the catering is also good.
My kids stayed with a family for a month two years ago when I was too sick to take care of them. It was horrible, she was vegetarian and consequently there were few meal options that appealed to everyone and she did not know how to cook anything with meat in it. The upside was they couldn't wait to get home if for nothing else but the food. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 12/28/2008 10:30:19 AM | This is where you turn to your caterer for their input. To try to adhere to a vegan diet on a daily basis is somewhat challenging to learn to put together the correct combination of foods to insure that you get all of the amino acids, etc, in your diet necessary to stay healthy - but you don't have to worry about a daily adherence to a vegan diet - you only have to serve one reception.
If you have a caterer worth their salt they should be able to accommodate a vegan reception with no problem. There are numerous cake recipes that easily accommodate the vegan diet - they were actually very popular during WWII when egg, sugar, and butter were hard to come by! Or - possibly offer cupcakes on tiers - with some being vegan and the remainder of the tiers non-vegan!
Invite your daughter to explain to you why she has adopted this veganism, and remember that this is her day! It is an opportunity for you to extend your love in a very special way. You never know, in a couple years she may abandon this lifestyle and your willingness to accommodate her wishes will become part of the story of the day. Better it be a story of love and support rather than one of anger and regret!
One positive factor may be that vegans tend to avoid silks, satins, and expensive natural fabrics - cotton and linen are usually the fabrics of choice, which tend to be less expensive! | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 12/28/2008 1:06:08 PM | Pisces, as usual, you don't know what the hell you are talking about. First of all, a wedding is for the bride and groom but it is a family/friends celebration which also means that you try to create an atmosphere that allows everyone to be comfortable. People that aren't vegetarian expect an entree that is either meat or chicken. I encounter few vegetarians in my daily life consequently most people do not think about it unless they are aware that guests need that special attention. Perhaps this thread can be illuminating to people that are throwing parties to also include in the RSVP if vegetarian food is required.
I was very grateful to the family for taking my children as were my children who never said one negative word while they were there but after watching me almost die in a coma, the lack of edible food made it more difficult for them to be separated from me for another month until I got the oxygen out of the house so they could return home.
When you are 7, 11 and 14 and almost lose your mother, the foods you find comforting would be, well, comforting. When my children were reminded that they should be thankful they had something to eat and people to take care of them they said that they were, and were also happy to be home. I felt sorry for them because it made the situation even more frustrating and it was particularly difficult for me because I am not usually helpless but they were not ungrateful for the time, attention and least of all money for food, gas, etc. that these people expended on them. Interesting how you twist honesty into something negative.
Some people can't cook with or without meat but I think most of us would rather have food that is palatable. My mother's food started tasting horrible when she started cooking for my father's heart condition; apparently she forgot that spices aren't chock full of cholesterol. I am sure that vegetarian dishes can be tasty if prepared properly. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 12/29/2008 3:49:02 PM |
I am sure that vegetarian dishes can be tasty if prepared properly.
Sorry to go incy off topic, but can't resist. This sounds like vegetarian dishes are by their nature somehow inferior. Well if you feel like you can't go without meat, i get it. I myself can't go without carbs, so non-carby dish feels incomplete. But any dish, whether vegetarian or not, either tastes good, if cooked right, or not if not. Even as a meat eater, you surely eat many meals that don't contain meat. | |
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| vegan hell did I even spell it right
Posted: 12/29/2008 4:01:04 PM | If God did not want you to eat animals he would not have made them out of meat....Vegan definition:
In biblical times a vegetarian who eats plant products only, Due to the fact of bad hunting skills.
[Short for VEGETARIAN.]
veganism veg'an·ism n. | |
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