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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/24/2008 9:14:31 PM | I know this is going to be a touchy subject but I've run 6 researches for this subject and came up empty handed.....excuse the pun OK, so here's my beef:
I will be 62 in 55 minutes and the last four men I've met on line have admitted to being somewhat 'slow' and/or 'non-existant' in the bedroom department, w/o the help of the little blue or pink pills. Two were diabetic, one was overweight and the last one was diabetic AND overweight. Now.....I've never been one to men who were a bit chubby nor have I ever given a health screening on prospective dates but, good Lord, guys.....is this as much a problem as it seems? And two of these men made quite an issue about telling me they loved and wanted frequent sex. Whoa, cowboy....how can you sit there and somewhat 'demand' sex when you ain't got what it takes to get the pony up and running?
Any of you other ladies run across this situation and what have you done about it? I've tried to be very understand and patient but having to 'time' intercourse really pulls the plug on any kind of intimacy and spontenaity (sp?).
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/24/2008 9:27:20 PM | First off.. happy birthday!!
Secondly.. I can see how it might be a little bit of an adjustment when you are first in a relationship with someone new. However.. it might not be as bad or as bleak as you are making it out to be. I'm confused as to whether their *slowness* was due to health or age related issues.
I've not had issues like this, partially because.. well.. I'm a wee bit younger then you, and most of the men I've been with have been similar in age (2 were 4-5 yrs older, the rest have been slightly younger). The similarity that I've had is that my sex drive has always been higher then any of the men I've been involved with. In the beginning of each of my LTRs they've been able to keep up with my demands (hehehe.. ), but over time it fades down to far less then I'd like.
One way around that is to seek *slightly* younger men. You are an attractive woman, I'm sure you wouldn't have any problems snagging a younger stud muffin to entertain yourself with!! | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/24/2008 9:28:36 PM | | Well lady in black, how many of you will admit you have become so large it feels like we are falling in the grand canyon. Can you say friction. Not to dis you, I dont know your situation. I dont use the pills, and everything works, but when we fall in a hole, things can shrivel | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/24/2008 9:40:06 PM | Thanks, no 1, but after the second run-in with Mr. Limping-A-Long, I did a ton of research on the net and even talked to my physican about it. According to him, sexual dysfunction begins between 55 & 60 and increases up to as much as 45% by the time men reach 65. That's nearly HALF!
Most is due to being overweight, alcohol, HBP and diabeties. Men my age don't seem to think exercise and a healthy lifestyle are very important but, to hear them talk, they are just as sexual as they where when they were 25. BULL! When you add the fact that (IMO) 75% of men walking the face of the earth don't have the foggest notion HOW to make love to a woman, it's no wonder women these days would rather take a beating than become physical with a man, even if it's her own husband; they talk a big story but few can produce.
Anyway.....I can't be the only woman who has run into this problem because us Babyboomers are a growing society day by day. And, guys, if you really think all these meds being pawned off on men in the US is the answer, you are sadly mistaken. Let's quit beating your chests and get down to reality here.
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/24/2008 9:58:06 PM |
they talk a big story but few can produce.
This isn't limited to older gentlemen I'm afraid. I don't have any answers for you.. as you said, you've done the research, you know the numbers. You just need to find the other 55% that doesn't have ED. The 75% of the male population that doesn't know what to do.. well.. I'm sure half of them are still trainable if you've got the energy to do it.
tbm55, you are absolutely correct! WAAAAAAAAY too many overweight people, period, not just men. But that has nothing to do with a man's ability to get it 'up' in the first place.
I think he meant her internal size. | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/24/2008 10:14:39 PM | Shug, happy Birthday...
Perhaps if that is the regular you have been running across then perhaps since you don't look a day over 50, you might date down 10 yrs. They may still be able to get the pony going just fine, and maybe even if you are lucky they haven't discovered the ease of using the blue or pink pill.
Seems like a lot of hyperbole by the pharmaceutical company, that gets men in their 40's on to such delightful drugs, at 10 bucks a pop...
I will admit I have met 47 and 48 yrs that wish they had the same abilities as they had when they were young. These guys weren't really all that over weight, perhaps just lazy, or had plug arteries from to many years on a fast food track....
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/24/2008 10:27:08 PM | are we talking about "human beings" here? which is worse, women who can fake it or men who cannot? my guess is those who choose to debate this issue are not looking for "relationships". therefore, i suggest you put a "milfer wanted" sign on top of your profile. believe me, they will all come running and are clearly a dime a dozen.
as to ED, there are many ways to deal with it, one of which is to NOT berate the man for having it. similarly, it's like a man telling a woman to "hurry up" or not liking the fact that her "boobs" don't look like the porn star silicone version!
ain't neither gonna happen. but if there is true partnership and both people care, they will figure out a way. actually women make out as a man gets older, cause he ain't in such a hurry!
for sexuality and sensuality to happen, we need to also include the grey matter and the heart. well, that's just my opinion. no doubt, i'll land in the minority one more time. | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/24/2008 10:29:35 PM |
And two of these men made quite an issue about telling me they loved and wanted frequent sex. Whoa, cowboy....how can you sit there and somewhat 'demand' sex when you ain't got what it takes to get the pony up and running?
There is a difference between “telling” you they “loved and wanted frequent sex” and “demand”, is there not ?
OP, Life is Hard ....and then it is not. I am ever so sorry to hear about YOUR problem and will offer you as much sympathy as you seem to have for the men you have dated and the men you described here. | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/24/2008 10:50:06 PM | | I like alot of what you had to say, BUT, What about the disfunctional ladie. We are expected to perform or be a wuss, but there is always the one you muppy dive on for hours and she still cant get off. I mean lock jaw. And even if the meat is solid, they go for EVER. I am getting tired of men bashing. I honestly believe there are more of you girls with problems than us guys | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/24/2008 11:27:48 PM | | No, Serenity, you are not in the minority here. Sensuality is all about what is happening in the heart and soul for a lot of us. Yes, OP, there are a lot of us older guys that have problems. It's not usually loss of libido or lack of interest, it's health problems and the side effects of the meds we take for them. That just plain sucks and it's something most men would far rather deny than try to deal with. But as Serenity said, if you care, if there's some real substance to a relationship, a couple WILL figure out a way. None of us, male or female, are the sexual ideals we once thought we were. Is that the end and do we just give up and curl up in the front porch rocking chair and whine? No, that doesn't have to happen. Love Among The Ruins can still happen, with patience, affection and sometimes a sense of humor. | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/25/2008 1:52:35 AM | Well lady in black, how many of you will admit you have become so large it feels like we are falling in the grand canyon. Can you say friction. Not to dis you, I dont know your situation. I dont use the pills, and everything works, but when we fall in a hole, things can shrivel
As they say, it's like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.
I have no such dysfunction but should it happen, I'd just make it up by using my tongue. Lots of girls prefer oral anyway. Blend some ass fisting into the mix and you're set. | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/25/2008 2:12:34 AM | how can someone whos so mature be quite so ignorant?
for starters we can all agree that as we get older everything doesnt work as well as it used to. Eyesight, hearing, internal organs, memory....hard-ons it all gets weaker as you get older.
Knowing this, why are you so suprised that a man in his 60s isnt as sexually capable or functional as a man of younger years?
And why are you not suprised that a man with dignity and pride may not want to announce to everyone who comes his way that not all his functions work as well as they used to?
Do you announce or will you announce to everyone that your bladder control isnt what it used to be and have to wear tena pads?
No of course you wont.
Sex is needed for a healthy relationship but it is not the be all and end all of life. To reject guys who are simply being affected by age in ways that women arent is just plain ignorance.
I would hope that when im 60+ my concerns would be to find someone who i enjoy the remainder of my life with. Someone who makes me happy because if i continue to judge them on standards that they arent capable of anymore then i would be a very lonely person indeed | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/25/2008 4:05:55 AM | tbm55, you seem to be screaming for attention with you decidedly flame back at the OP, and women general.
Did you miss the very informative, and completely laugh a persons arse of about Vaginal rejuvination? If not you should, it is extremely funny, and NO WOMEN got offended that a man would write such a thread, nor did we feel our womanhood was getting bashed in the least.
I would think it is only a bashing, if you are one of many that is having an issue with your plumbing working. Other wise you may take the thread for what it is worth, which is a general question on what's up with guys that say they want nonstop sex, but can't put it out?
And if you must know, yes we women are MORE THAN AWARE, that 60% of all women are unable to achieve orgasm, with a male counterpart, and that is because of the type of stimulation we need. THen there is the factor that some women, probably a way larger # then you'd guess, have been sexually abused. As well there are guys who think one lick and stick work for all women... Not true in the least.
The really sad part about all this, is that there is a DRUG designed for women to achieve orgasms easier, and the electrode surgery that can help a woman achieve them is out of most womens budget.
They are slowly coming up with new ideas as to how to "tighten" things up, but then again since it is a surgery, there could well be more problems for some women, than any thing that is actually improved.
Sexuality, and one that is really very satisfying happens generally between to people who absolutely love and respect each other; thus the major disappointment of casual sex.
I hope you have felt the love here, and acknowledgment that you had to bash the female gender, simply because one woman has not been having much sexual satisfaction in her age bracket, and is wondering why. | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/25/2008 4:08:29 AM | | keep in mind ... you better like talking to your partner because as we age thats what we will be doing most in bed apart from sleeping. churning thru partners looking for a stud over 60 seems a bit shallow and indicates how much people watch media then expect it will be like that in real life. Most guys wont admit it but as time advances you have to work at staying fit or you wont be able to perform very well at all. The ladies can basically lie back and with a little lube feel they have done their part so it is a harsh comparison. | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/25/2008 4:39:58 AM | | I like to know how many young men are reading this. And saying to themselves I better get laid as often as I can. Because one day, I may not be able to. Now we all know why President Bill Clinton. Fu*k every women in sight. He know his sexual time could be limited. A very smart man indeed. All I could say is get it as often as you can. If she doesn't always put out. Just dump her. Only be with women that would keep you happy while you can still do it. So if one day you can't no longer get it up. You can say to yourself. The hell with women. I don't need them anymore. I can just hang out with my male friends. | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/25/2008 4:50:48 AM | I knew I would take a tongue lashing when I started this thread but I believe it's a subject that needs addressing, not only for men but for women, too, because we're ALL going to get older, count on it. We're all going to experience health issues of some kind, be it arthritic thumbs or bladder control or ED. Never ONCE did I amuse myself with these men's difficulties as that would have been an insult of all insults. I did, however, expect them to be honest and forthcoming, which two were not.
For as long as I can remember, since Forums were invented, men have bashed women for being fridged, fat, non-stimulating because their 'equipment' was too large...you name it, men have complained about it. And, yet, women are supposed to be all forgiving and understanding when 'they' can't produce. It's always 'their' fault!
I also know diabeties can be comtrol and even Diabeties 1 can be totally eliminated with proper diet and exercise.....but guys won't do that! I know eliminating alcohol will dramatically improve the problem but guys wouldn't think of giving up their booze with the boys. Most just sit back and complain about women as they pop like pills expecting a miracle to happen in 20 minutes. And, just for the record, I personally believe friendship/companionship is far more important, at any age, than sex in a relationship. If you don't have that, by the time you're 65-70, you're going to find yourself very much alone in this world if you're expecting 'sex' to keep the relationship together.
I would be the first one to stand up and put my best foot forward if I fell in love with a man who had ED because I know I'm not as young as I used to be either but it's time, I believe, men start taking full responsibility for their situation and do something about it, if they can, and stop bashing women as a last recourse. And it must be some kind of denial because all four of these men, especially two of them, made it quite apparent they expected lots of sex in a relationship.
I just wanted other opinions, other views from women who may have experienced the same issue. And, if you men take exception to my questions/comments and need to berate me, I wonder why. Hmmmmm.
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/25/2008 5:17:45 AM |
for sexuality and sensuality to happen, we need to also include the grey matter and the heart. well, that's just my opinion. no doubt, i'll land in the minority one more time.
Serenity, you are DEFINITELY NOT alone in this thinking.
TBM55 I think you are totally taking what LDYnBLK was saying. She's not bashing men for having issues, I think she's fairly understanding about the limitations we all develop as we get older. What she's upset about is the fact that these four men were not forthcoming with regards to their abilities. I personally like to play poker with all the cards face up on the table, that way I know what's going on and can adjust my thought process accordingly and deal with everything in a more prepared way.
We are expected to perform or be a wuss, but there is always the one you muppy dive on for hours and she still cant get off. I mean lock jaw.
Now.. not to turn this into a flame war... the man I was with last fall went down on me, probably less then 15 min and cried off doing more 'cause he was "getting tired". Interestingly enough I'm not disfunctional at all. I have no problem orgasming from oral. This man wasn't doing what I needed in order to get off. So if you have a problem getting your woman off, perhaps it's not her.. ??? My FB could get me off in under 5 min because he knows what works.
The only thing I expect from my partner is respect, trust, good communication abilities and the desire to want to learn about each other and doing what it takes to make them happy. I don't expect him to perform 100% of the time, but I do expect 100% from him when he does. I'm not perfect, don't claim to be. I'm human and I know and accept my limitations. I tell new partners that sometimes it can take me a while to orgasm, there's a huge learning curve with each new partner. I openly communicate that with them because I don't want them thinking I'm broken or their skills are not up to par. That's the point of the thread, not men bashing. | |
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/25/2008 5:21:54 AM | OP: happy birthday.
Just goes to show that bitterness and spite know no age or gender.
I guess that, if they can afford to pop those expensive azz pills quite regularly, then they can afford to want a lot of sex. Right?
You chose to get with these men, not forced to. Was it for sex? Or something else? If you got with them because of whom they are an their personality, then you take the physical along with it!
guys, if you really think all these meds being pawned off on men in the US is the answer, you are sadly mistaken. Let's quit beating your chests and get down to reality here. So, what are you suggesting here? Enough with the being vague. Spit it out! It doesn't belong to you!
As for losing intimacy and spontaneity because of a purty lil pill? I'm sorry, isn't that what foreplay is fore? Those pills take what, 20-30 minutes before they start working? His fingers and tongue don't require an erection!
With me, normally, she gets at least one orgasm B4 penetration ever takes place! And my average for giving her one, is about 20 minutes.
Now, if these guys are clueless about foreplay? I'm not gonna defend em. THAT'S pure laziness! Not to mention self-centered and self-fulfilling!
But ease up on the rest of us guys that know better and treat women better!
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/25/2008 6:10:43 AM | Well, with an ID like 'KittyLiquer' I would expect your reply to be as it was. How classless! Besides, you're 35 years old and haven't even grown up yet, much less old! When you get to be 55 or 60 or even 70, I bet you're chest beating days will be over, too!
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| How Many Men Will Admit to Being Sexually Dysfunctional? Posted: 9/25/2008 6:24:39 AM | this is pertainate? This is a flame-bait thread. It should've been deleted. It's not a subject that 'needs' to be addressed. People lie. Not just men, OMGAWD women can be sexually dysfunctional too.
But. To answer the op...
I am. But, I'm just a dysfunctional person period. I'm usually told so on the second date, when I bring her to my tool shed to show her my precious collection of pretty and shiny shovels...
How I love my shovels... | |
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