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 velvetvenus
Joined: 8/12/2008
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I need help with someone I've been seeing. The basics are:

o I have been seeing someone for 10 weeks.

o He calls almost every day, but not during the day or afternoon, only after 6:30 p.m., usually around 7:30. No, he's not married. I have already checked with the Family Court clerk's office in his county.

o We have been seeing each other on the weekends.

o He has high blood pressure. Takes medication for it.

o He is impotent. Started to take Viagra for it; or so he told me -- as in he hasn't taken it previously to now.

o The Viagra does not seem to work, as he can't sustain an erection.

o In addition to that, he has a small penis. It's difficult to hold it, as I can't move the hand up and down because it doesn't quite fill up the the palm of my hand when I curl the fingers to hold it. My hands are a little larger than average, but I have never had this problem with a man before where his penis is that small.

o In conversation, I asked if he watched porn and he said, yes, about 5X per week on his computer. I asked if he played around with himself and he said yes. He said it's a normal male thing to do, especially when you don't live with someone to have sex with. This sounds strange to me, since he can't have sex anyway because of the erection problem, even with Viagra.

My question: is it NORMAL for a man who lives alone to watch porn 5 days a week? How about masturbating to the porn?

Is this the reason why he can't have intercourse with a real live woman? He doesn't orgasm and he doesn't ejaculate. It's really strange!
 UrsulaMajor
Joined: 6/21/2008
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Posted: 9/25/2008 10:12:59 PM

No, he's not married. I have already checked with the Family Court clerk's office in his county.

Maybe he was married in another county?

is it NORMAL for a man who lives alone to watch porn 5 days a week? How about masturbating to the porn?

As far as I know, yeah, it seems to be fairly normal. But what do you care, he's got a tiny willy that doesn't get hard, anyway. Plus, he's got other major ISSUES.

Why are you with him, again?
 MaxsimJ
Joined: 9/10/2008
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Posted: 9/25/2008 10:25:54 PM
A man watching porn - it's normal. Even at 5 times a week -- he lives alone, with no woman. I know men, who have women in their lives, still watch porn regularly - it's normal. Maybe you have a hang up? Just because he cannot sustain an erection doesn't mean that he doesn't have the sexual urge still -- he just simply cannot get it up, that's it. He still might find it pleasurable for him, although I'm sure he ends up sexually frustrated by time it's all said and done, not being able to orgasm when you have that urge. Honey, just because he cannot sustain an erection and have sex with you, doesn't mean that he can't get some joy from masturbating, or attempting to masturbate. Maybe you should sit down and watch some porn with him and see how it goes. I think you just have a hang up with porn in general. It is not abnormal. It's not cheating, just some women are so insecure that a man is looking at another woman, naked, engaged in sexual acts, and this makes her maybe feel uncomfortable because she somehow feels inadequate by it? Heck, I'll make my own videos for my man to watch and jack off too or buy him ones from the adult store, either way, I could care less what he watches. He's a big boy. As for you, just because he can't have sex, doesn't mean that he doesn't want too! And he probably feels bad enough about it without you having to come off so critical. These things happen as a result of genetics, disease, medication, the ageing process. If you are truly dissatisfied with the quality of your sex life, or lack there of, then you aren't compatible.
 southernlass
Joined: 5/2/2006
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Posted: 9/25/2008 10:45:42 PM
Based upon stats in one of my texts, porn addiction is running rampant with approximately 40 million men now addicted to Internet porn. Some of the these men are so addicted that they are unable to stop surfing porn even on their employer's dime at work! Now this is according to my addictions textbook, and the text was written in 2007. So yeah, I would say that addicted men probably surf porn daily, perhaps even several times a day. And yes, I would imagine that they would be masturbating pretty often to go along with it.


Is this the reason why he can't have intercourse with a real live woman? He doesn't orgasm and he doesn't ejaculate. It's really strange!


That's probably a good part of the reason. He's conditioned his mind and body to the pornographic images. There's a lot of current research being done on this phenomenon because it's destroying marriages and relationships left and right.

I would think the other part of the reason is because he's on high blood pressure meds which are known to cause erectile dysfunction. I've heard that Viagra doesn't work when a man is diabetic, but perhaps the blood pressure meds are causing problems with the Viagra as well.

Were he able to achieve any kind of erection, his penis probably wouldn't appear to be and feel so small, but all of these things are influential in his difficulties, imo. Some of these can't be helped without medical intervention and consultation with his physician, but the porn thing can be addressed if he chooses to deal with it. It's unlikely he will, however, and many men with ED aren't comfortable addressing erection issues with their partner or their doctor.

If you care about him, here's hoping he's the kind of man who makes up for his lack in other very satisfying ways and alternatives. And as far as the porn goes? Trying to get an addict to give up their drug is a thankless task that you don't want to go through. Porn is his drug and if you try and force him, he'll just go underground with it and hide it. Unless you're planning on accepting the porn for the rest of your relationship with him, better address the matter and then sit back and wait and see if it's still going on. You'll catch him at it. It's unlikely to stop, frankly.

Take a look over at Dr. Phil.com in their message boards under the topic "Pornography." It should be quite enlightening for you. Finding men who don't look at porn will be a challenge. If they have a computer, they probably look at it, unless they are extremely devout in their religious faith (imo).

Best of luck with this one, hon. I think you're gonna need it.

 velvetvenus
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Posted: 9/25/2008 10:50:31 PM
MaxsimJ, have you actually listened to yourself: "I think you just have a hang up with porn in general. It is not abnormal. It's not cheating, just some women are so insecure that a man is looking at another woman, naked, engaged in sexual acts, and this makes her maybe feel uncomfortable because she somehow feels inadequate by it? Heck, I'll make my own videos for my man to watch and jack off too or buy him ones from the adult store, either way, I could care less what he watches."

NO, Maxim, I do not have a "hangup" with porn. I think porn is for people who can't be intimate with another human being at their deepest core level. They can't be with a real live, breathing, hot, flesh and blood woman. So what do they do? They go jerk off by looking at some whores on a screen who have no self-esteem or self-dignity.

If a person is truly sexual, she (or he) does it with a REAL human being. You look into each other's eyes, you caress, you kiss, you hug, you comfort each other, you provide emotional food and soul food for each other. How the h*ll does that compare to jerking off watching a stupid screen with women doing crap?
 velvetvenus
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Posted: 9/25/2008 10:56:26 PM
Southernlass, are you saying that he is a porn "addict"? I don't believe in any addictions. I believe in either good or bad CHARACTER! People CHOOSE their actions.

Regarding how he makes up for the small penis that doesn't function, the answer is: quite well! He has great hands and knows how to find a G-spot in a few seconds. I didn't know I had one until he touched it. And let me tell ya, it was amazing! He finds it time and time again one right after the other every couple of minutes or so.

By the way, thanks for your insightful input. I will say that if I am with this man more than 2 days a week and he's still doing porn when I'm not there, I would NOT be pleased at all. It IS being unfaithful! He's doing something that he should ONLY do with me with someone else!
 southernlass
Joined: 5/2/2006
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Posted: 9/25/2008 11:03:19 PM
It is truly an addiction, Venus. And it's a serious, growing problem all over this country. Here's Dr. Phil's take on it. [And while I know peeps like to make fun of Dr. Phil, he is a trained psychologist]. From his website:


Is Internet Porn Cheating?

Internet pornography is a growing trend that has many people worried about their relationships. Is it cheating? And is it a "normal guy thing"? Here's what Dr. Phil believes:

It is not OK behavior. It is a perverse and ridiculous intrusion into your relationship. It is an insult, it is disloyal and it is cheating.

Consider how it makes your partner feel. If it makes your partner feel ugly, hurt, deceived, lied to or inadequate, then it needs to stop. If it is eroding your relationship, it's gone too far.

Pornography isn't real, it's a fantasy. It's makeup, beauty lenses, hair extensions, camera angles, lighting and silicone! It's also somebody's daughter who has taken a really, really wrong turn. She's demeaning herself, debasing herself, humiliating herself and she's being exploited by people who are funded by you. It is a sick, demented, twisted world. It's not healthy, it's not natural and it's not normal.

Viewing Internet pornography or engaging in cybersex is a short step to taking cheating to the next level.

You need to tell your partner that viewing pornography is absolutely, unequivocally unacceptable in your relationship. Draw a line: Your partner needs to choose between the pornography or the relationship.

Ask yourself or your partner:

Would you do it with your partner standing right there?

Are you turning outside of your relationship to meet a need that should be met within the relationship? You can't change what you don't acknowledge, so find out if you or your partner have a problem.

Do you justify the behavior by saying, "It's harmless," "Everyone does it," or "It's just the Internet"?

Does it intrude on your relationship?

Which is more important: pornography or your relationship?
 silkstockings4u
Joined: 8/13/2008
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Posted: 9/25/2008 11:09:03 PM
I'm no doctor, so I don't know the physical answers to all of this, but I see nothing wrong for a man, or a woman to masturbate 5 times a week or heck, even 5 times a day, if they want to.
If you live alone, and you are horny all the time, some more than others, then why not? If people enjoy porn, in the privacy of their own computer, or TV, and find it helps while masturbating, I see nothing wrong.
And as far as the small penis, and impotence problem... so what? Make him feel incredibly wonderful whether the plumbing is small and/or works or not...there is plenty of fun to be had with creative minds, toys, and chocolate syrup ....lol
 SauberF1
Joined: 7/16/2006
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Posted: 9/25/2008 11:13:53 PM

I will say that if I am with this man more than 2 days a week and he's still doing porn when I'm not there, I would NOT be pleased at all. It IS being unfaithful! He's doing something that he should ONLY do with me with someone else!


Your issue appears to be with masturbation in general, and not porn, or fantasies, etc. I suppose if it is a deal breaker for you, then you're best not to be dating men who masturbate. Quite simple, really.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with men or women masturbating within a relationship, as long as it is not a replacement for the intimacy that two people can share.

However, if you don't agree with masturbation, then your best bet is to find a like-minded man.
 pearlj
Joined: 3/1/2007
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Posted: 9/25/2008 11:16:00 PM
It sounds like you keep jumping from "HE SUCKS IN BED!" to "HE IN THE BEST LOVER EVER!" If and when you find that denial is not right for you, AND you are ready to hear the truth come back to the forum, otherwise DONT use the forums for arguing against all opposing voices to solidify your denial system. YOU like a guy who cant get it up, has a small penis, and prefers the tele to a real vagina, that'sYOUR problem, dont air your dirty laundry and then attack the people trying to clean it for you.
 MaxsimJ
Joined: 9/10/2008
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Posted: 9/25/2008 11:26:36 PM
Then I must be sexually dysfuntional myself, because I watch porn ALL THE TIME. And not because I can't get aroused by a real man! I watch porn a lot, and I can also be with a real live, breathing, hot, flesh and blood man. My man can please me and bring me to orgasm despite how much porn I watch --and truthfully, we haven't even watched a porn together yet. Personally, I enjoy what these naked men do on my screen. If my man became jealous or insecure over it, he'd have the same hang up as you do! I enjoy him very much, but I like my entertainment, too. I have a very high sex drive -- at least I'm not out screwing another man behind his back to get my fix, instead, I take care of my needs in the privacy of my home with any porn movie that I please. As for the posting about porn addictions -- no -- I don't believe that to be the case, rather in today's society, porn is more readily available to consumers, and you wouldn't believe the number of consumers, both men and women out there that purchase, watch, and enjoy these products! With the era of the internet, mail in orders, tv, radio, talk shows, I mean, we have porn readily available to us in ways people didn't 20 years ago. It's more mainstream. That is why you're suddenly hearing about so many people watching porn, because it's HERE AND LIVE. And, It's no different than when you purchase a sex toy, for sexual gratification. I mean, what's the big deal? If he is paying more attention to a porno than you, maybe you need to shut the tv or computer off and give him something else to look at, if it's that big of a problem. Sex is a primal instinct, it's not all about lovey dovey feelings all the time and feeding each other soul food as you put it and being intimate at the deepest core level. Sometimes it's just about unbridled passion, tearing clothes off in the heat of the moment and just getting dirty, filthy, nasty and you know why? BECAUSE IT FEELS GOOD. AND IT'S NATURAL. And it's natural for men and women to use visual aides/stimulants to get aroused and enjoy oneself if the mood strikes. If my partner is there though at that moment, I'm giving him something that he can feel. I do not believe from anything I've learned at college or reading in my medical text books, or any of my other health related fields that I have worked in that a man cannot have sex with a real live woman because he watches too much porn. It's most likely medical, and if it's psychological, then you harping on him isn't helping any. Maybe your uptight ways scare him and he can't get it up, all physiological responses to a frigid woman. Since you don't want to face that he probably does have a medical condition happening. Are you in denial? Viagra wasn't made for porn addicts! Maybe you should try something like being understanding and patient to his problem. Trust me, It's not the porn. Taking away his porn won't fix his problem.
 velvetvenus
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Posted: 9/25/2008 11:26:57 PM
sauberf1 and all who think pornography and masturbating to pornography is AOK, dandy-O behavior: why would someone do that when all they have to do is go over to their girlfriend's place or wait two frigging days to see her?

Why not masturbate IMAGINING your girlfriend in all sorts of interesting positions with you?

I don't have an issue wih the masturbating, as long as it's kept within normal amounts; I have an BIG ISSUE with masturbating watching porn, especially when the man can't get it up with a real woman who's good in bed!!!!! And by the way, did you know that men who masturbate a lot often CAN'T have sex with a REAL WOMAN because they've gotten used to the intense pressure from their hand that there is no way a woman's vagina is going to have that much pressure, even if she has a tight canal?
 hunkydaboyz
Joined: 7/21/2005
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Posted: 9/25/2008 11:46:10 PM
i just watch them for the storyline , some are really nice
 bliss8267
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Posted: 9/25/2008 11:54:55 PM
So what's he got that's so interesting...a great mind, sense of humor, can get you off in other ways?
 ck1time
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Posted: 9/26/2008 12:00:54 AM
Finally, a bona-fide question about real things. Subject: ED. 1st: OP, lemme get the obligatory stuff out of the way 1st. Just send me Ur pix & digits. End of problem.
Now, Ur right, ED is rampant among Type II diabetes ppl.
Incidentally, just returned tonite from a medical seminar on just that, & was part of a lecture
w/a renown world specialist.
How about THAT 4 serendipity.
#1, it's Fantastic for your love interest that he has you in his life. Hugs for your care. Nice.
Viagra was originally developed as a blood pressure (heart) med. Then they found that it also made Peter pretty hard. That happens in pharmacology. The secondary effects R more useful than the primary, sometimes.
You have a cause, a mission you seem to have chosen for the moment. Nice.
Doc's suggestions for Him: Lose weight, keep BS (sugar, not bullsh*t) under 120 thru diet.
Exercise. Get regular sleep (you can help him there). Watch the carbs & starches when you go out to eat, or when you eat together at home.
I've never been diabetic, but I'm Adult Type 2 Diabetes Management certified, & my
God-granted skills kept a bed-ridden 92yo mother Insulin/Glucophage/Metphormin -free for 5 years with diet alone. (She was a gourmet chef B4, & liked her food I prepared fine).
>For ED, there's a manual Vacuum erection device available. Buy it once, use it free for rest of life.
>Some diabetics have to inject insulin. There are Intracavernosal injection agents available, like Trimix, Papaverine, Caverject, & Alprostadil that the guy can inject his penis with a very thin needle (no real pain). Same as Insulin injections.
>Surgical impants (heavier, but need to mention.)
>Herbal supplements: Peruvian Maca (works after 8 wks), Rhodiolla Rosea (boosts
internal level of nitric oxide), Tribulus Terrestris, DHEA(25mg).
RX: Androgel/patches. Don't waste your time w/TV-Net Enzyte, Zimax, Libidus, 4Everon, etc.
See, the point of this information overload is to recognize how lucky he is to have
you as a lover, & how enamored you are of him to help, & how many ways you can go. Don't try everything at once. Give each therapy a 2-week trial period. If you both can generate that much belief & patience (you'd be surprised how many can't/won't).

Once any/all work, the porn issue won't be an issue. You'll both be getting laid too much for that. Hurray! Happy to help.


 velvetvenus
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Posted: 9/26/2008 12:17:57 AM
bliss8267:

1. He is very affectionate, loves to cuddle and snuggle, is a great hugger, a relatively good kisser, likes to hold hands. He likes it when I'm sitting on the sofa and he lays down his head on my lap; he likes to close his eyes and take a short snooze like that while his arms are around me. He's very touchy and I REALLY like that because I'm a very tactile person.

2. He's very tall and broad, and I like that because while I'm not too tall, I'm definitely not a shorty. I also have curves, which means that I'm not skinny. I'm defnitely not fat, but I do have the curves. Therefore, a man with a large body is very appealing to me. In addition to that, it feels very protective.

3. He likes to please the woman sexually even if in an alternative way (but not toys; I'm not into that and I don't think he's either). He told me that because of his issue he likes to make sure that his partner is satisfied. He's great with the hands and other parts. Even the winkie can be satisfying although it's small. The BIG PROBLEM for me is that this man does NOT orgasm or ejaculate. I find this VERY STRANGE! He told me that it's not a problem for him as regards the two of us. He said to not worry about it. I told him that it is an issue for me because it makes me feel inadequate in that I think I'm not pleasing him or he's not attracted to me. He said that was nonsense and that I should know better than that because he thinks I'm very hot and very sexy. He has said that on several occasions.

4. His personality: he has a relatively cheery disposition. He's flexible to a reasonable degree. He likes to please (in ways other than just sexually). He seemingly has a great personality -- he is funny (I'm funny also) and we laugh ourselves silly all the time.

5. He likes to carry me, for me to sit on his lap. He kisses the top of my head, my forehead, the tip of my nose. He likes to trace the contours of my face with his fingers.

6. He calls almost every day. He called me when he went on an activity with a male (supposedly) friend several weekends ago and said the place was beautiful and he wished I was there.

7. He is chivalrous (by modern standards). He opens doors, treats out, makes you feel protected.

8. He is considerate and tries to make me feel at home in his home. He brings an extra bottle of water for me in his car. He buys champagne because he knows I like champagne, since I don't really drink anything else that's alcoholic except for beer.

9. When he went out of town recently for two weeks he came back with 2 presents, nothing major, but it was nice in that he remembered my favorite color and brought me back a shirt in that color and a glass figurine of something I have a collection of. I thought it was very sweet.

10. So far what he has said has been true; however, I'm not so sure about the not interacting with other women or seeking to meet other women. He keeps reassuning me that he hasn't and isn't interested. The other day he left a voice mail on my phone saying that he didn't want me to worry about anything and that I was his girlfriend and that he didn't want anyone else and wanted me to be assured about that. When we were together the other night and he was having the sexual problems I told him that I didn't want anything other than him, the person. I was caressing his face and he seemed very touched and said "You have me."

I'm confused as to what to do. My only fear is that he's F'ing around behind my back. Nothing else worries me about him. I trust him except for the infidelity issue, which I have told him from day ONE that faithfulness is CRUCIAL to me.
 velvetvenus
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Posted: 9/26/2008 12:26:06 AM
ck1time, I understand that Viagra causes blood pressure to go up. If it was developed as a blood pressure med, why does it do that? It can also cause heart palpitations from what I understand.

This man also has very high blood pressure. He also perspires a tremendous amount and his perspiration is very strange, it's kind of creamy, although he doesn't put lotion on his body.
 ck1time
Joined: 9/10/2005
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Posted: 9/26/2008 12:55:08 AM
Velvet,
Viagra works by DILATING the blood vessels to the penis (and also the rest of the circulatory system). In doing so, it makes blood-flow to the aroused area easier, thus
BOING! At the same time, the heart/brain tries to keep the known pressure going, 'cause
of it's programmed bio job. So, less volume (increased blood vessel size, more pressure).
Ask your plumber or electrician about this. Same deal: force, volume & piping.
Viagra/Cialis/Levitra may be contra-indicated for ppl w/HI resting blood pressure.
Ergo, the other alternatives.
How long has it been since loverboy had a full check-up, babe? I perspire plentifully,
but that's because I work outdoors in the Sunshine State, drink lots of water, & have an
effcient cooling system. But it's NO Way creamy. That little bit I don't get.
BTW, anti-smoking patches like Nicotrol can also cause heart palpitations. They can
scare, but trust me, in and of themselves, they are not = heart attack . It's our best
muscle, baby, & just like we get leg cramps, "Charlie Horses" & muscular dehydration
spasms that are quickly restored by a shot of potassium (or bananas, or a quart of Gatorade), our main Love Muscle (no, not the ones in our groin) shifts gears when it
has to. It knows to do this, it's not the end.
[The end usually comes from a lack of oxygen or internal electricity, or both].
Man, how you luv this guy. That's great! We should all take a lesson from you.
 velvetvenus
Joined: 8/12/2008
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Posted: 9/26/2008 1:14:03 AM
ck1time, thanks for the info; however, you jumped to a conclusion that is not accurate. I am NOT in love with this person. I like him greatly. I feel very nice and even warm and fuzzy when I'm with him. But I do not feel as if I'm walking on air or feet off the ground or anything like that. Perhaps it's because I have been trying to learn to be like men, by which I mean, not really love anyone, not really miss anyone, to see one woman as interchangeable for another.

I have not quite succeeded in doing all of that, but I have succeeded in moving on much more quickly once somebody hurts me. And in anticipation of being hurt, I don't give my heart fully, perhaps just 50-70% of it or so.
 ck1time
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Posted: 9/26/2008 1:22:42 AM
Gonna step into girl-talk 4 one sec, then I'm Out (gotta work in a few hours, but do have my own Co, so, some flexibility of schedule).
Velvet. STOP your brain w/the insecurity. You're too strong & validated for that.
Look, man. The dude is yours, yet he has this temporary prob. So, like some men, he wonders if others can fix it. So, maybe he goes to a strip club w/his pals. Maybe not.
I've been a VIP @ Penthouse Club for several years, & even the steady managers (yes, the main 1 is a fem) knows I'm 1 of the most faithful guys they ever met. In fact, we're going to a Comedy Club tomorrow night, & party afterwards, & filmed a Hollywood movie together, etc. Shut that green-eyed beast down, it's trying to eat you, & not in a good way.
You are powerful & secure. You give more than you get. And that gives you your strength.
Besides, who wrote that little diddy about if you love something, let it go, & if it comes back,
it's yours? Was that you? Might as well have been. Shush, man! WTF? Like he really
doesn't know a good thing when he has one, & like you really can't call all your own shots if/when you want to. As if! Luv.
 ck1time
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Posted: 9/26/2008 1:29:41 AM

ck1time, thanks for the info; however, you jumped to a conclusion that is not accurate
K, true, it's late & I've had a long (good) day. Posting's not like phone
or live talk, so everyone misses something sometime. Guess I was a little inspired by seeing
"The Dark Knight" today (1st time) also. Anyway, pleasure to forumize (new word)w/U guys tonite on this subject. Muff-diving into my down pillows for a few zzz, but back again
on the flip side whenever. Stay warm! L8R!
 oceanstateguy2
Joined: 7/9/2008
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Posted: 9/26/2008 3:21:09 AM
Velvet venus,
You comments make no sense. You say you don't believe in addictions and believe it's just bad character instead. Tell that to all the smokers in this country who are hooked on nicotine by the cigarette companies who actually added extra nicotine to cigarettes to keep people hooked. Your a naive self centered idiot for making a comment like that.
 oceanstateguy2
Joined: 7/9/2008
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Posted: 9/26/2008 3:25:16 AM
I could not have said it better Silky! Although i don;t have this problem your comment make you one sexy woman in my eyes. Finally a woman who makes some sense on this particular subject! Kudos.
 kathareeene
Joined: 7/26/2007
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Posted: 9/26/2008 3:45:20 AM
NO not an expert but how many times one pleasures themselves is no ones business not urs n certainly not OURS

be chill n dont sweat it..either u can live with it or not which is it ..how do they say it..cut bait or fish

kathi
 Loz Hunter
Joined: 7/13/2006
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Posted: 9/26/2008 3:54:30 AM
MSG 14 - laughing, brilliant post.
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