| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
Posted: 9/27/2008 10:21:58 PM | "Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
Several bloggers today have pointed to this obviously disturbing article from Army Times, which announces that "beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the [1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division] will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North" -- "the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities." The article details:
They'll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.
They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack. . . .
The 1st BCT's soldiers also will learn how to use "the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded," 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them. "
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/24/army/index.html
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/27/2008 11:57:45 PM | Same reason they had German pilots patrolling our skies post 9/11. Same reason they have agreements with the military of selected countries to come in to "assist" if needed.
If they can't baffle you with BS, they'll buffet you with batons.
You're also going to just love that "new crowd control equipment".
It consists of Humvees with what amounts to giant microwave dishes mounted on them. In the event a crowd fails to disperse, switching it on shoots a beam of microwave radiation that causes your skin to feel like it's on fire. It's wide dispersal, meaning they really don't have to aim it at ayone in particular.
That means ALL in its path will feel the effect - whether you're actually an unruly one or not. Supposedly, it leaves no ill after-effects. They had a pet name for this project, but it escapes me at the moment.
Okay - It's called the "Active Denial System" - Google it. Oh - and now they're saying the worst effect could be second degree burns.
I hadn't heard or seen anything specific to the OP's mentioned threads/posts, but none of this is news if anyone's really been paying attention. You gotta wonder why the U.S. Army has been working on crowd control weapons for (most notably) the past few years - post Patriot Act.
Posse Comitatus Act of 1878? In the words of that master car painter extraordinaire - Earl Scheib..."Riiiiiiight." I'll believe it when I don't see it.
Further info: The Google article says the military has been working on this concept for 12 years, however the end of the article reveals a contract awarded in 2004 to a company specifically to develop the Active Denial System, apparently to have it completed by January of 2009.
And what's supposed to happen in January of 2009? (Hint: Think November) | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/28/2008 5:17:42 AM | | Just in case our economy gets even worse and we have another depression or there is major voter fraud again. It's coming. The military and George "If I was a dictator, it would be a hell of a lot easier" Bush are getting ready. | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/28/2008 3:30:45 PM |
Crowd control in major cities in case change doesn't happen this coming November.
Might be right on except for the obvious.......won't matter if Obama win or loses......crowd control will be an issue.
Hope those who understand are ready. | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/28/2008 4:23:38 PM | I wouldn't put too much stock in anyting Glen Greenwald said.
The US probably WILL be hit by terrorists again, sooner or later. a lot of attempts have been foiled since 9/11/01. But we ultimately won't be able to catch them all before they happen.
If any Americans do riot in the streets, it will probably the liberal constituancy, when they finally realize the source of funding for their failed social programs has dried up.
As a matter of fact, there were some pretty ugly little scenes made by liberals at both conventions.
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/28/2008 7:58:57 PM | | I know all about those places heard about them through friends don't really want to research it because I spent alot of time in institions as a kid and though part of me has hoped to live a peaceful free end of my life I'm not afraid to get locked up for my opinion or to die at the hands of a coward...This shit is temporary..The way I see it there's going to be alot of people scrubbbing tioliets for eternity... | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/28/2008 8:13:51 PM | This is such an important subject. It could have many motives and indications. I feel the best use of these soldiers is being placed along our borders and ports and shooting on site anyone who crosses the border or sneaks onto USA soil that isn't an American citizen.
More American citizens have been killed by illegal aliens in the USA since 9/11 than ON 9/11.
The possibility of some thngs I prefer not to discuss on here just terrify me. Aw shoot, does this mean I have to immigrate to Australia now?
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/29/2008 1:53:30 AM |  Byrd, don't worry about The Camps,they want you to Either Join them or you die... 
 The only thing is that weather you Join them or not, they still plan to exterminate everyone...
 That is only seven tenths of the global population...  | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/29/2008 8:53:16 AM | Maybe they are going to try to stop us from removing our savings from the banks and trying to escape from the US to live in another country.
They are not caring about people coming here from other countries but I'll bet they will declare Martial Law to stop us from leaving this country..
I want to sell my commercial property and get out of the US..
I'll bet there are many others who are thinking the same thing.. | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/29/2008 11:44:56 AM | There are many who want to get the hell outta here..Not me though I'm poor I guess it's back to the dumpsters of Montecito..I wonder what Oprah is having for dinner tonight. As far as joinning them I was a republican for over 20 years my father was a lifelong republican there was a time when most republicans were good people..My father believed in civil rights he saved a african american man from being hanged in Chicago during the riots of 1968...He was way before his time he died so young I will always believe the klan had a hand in his death and unlike other family members I'm not afraid of the cowards..I never want to leave America I consider myself pretty patrotic I would not back down to defending my country even though I'm old and pretty much crippled up..But I don't believe what's going on now and as far as I'm concerned most of the people claimming to be republican are just using the label..The only ones that come close is John McCain and George senior..I can't vote for John McCain because if he dies in office Sarah is going to take over..It makes sense though to lock us all up and take control of our money The New World Order..As with everything in this life..Thank God for drugs, sex, rock and roll, and memories oh sweet memories... | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/29/2008 12:26:05 PM | If any Americans do riot in the streets, it will probably the liberal constituancy, when they finally realize the source of funding for their failed social programs has dried up.
Tradurgurl has chimed in with her wisdom yet again. Care to name any of those programs? You speak in tongues. Are you going to run away from me again little girl? | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/29/2008 2:07:01 PM | Well I think that they either want to save the endangered Polar Bears or......They know that either Obama or Palin will end up in office and with all the great experience between the 2 of them somethin really crappy is bound to happen.
Bill Cosby for President!!!! | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/29/2008 2:25:02 PM | Ummm.... tomorrow is Sept 30... as in the end of the 3rd Quarter for Quarterly Reports.
Some have speculated that the 3rd Quarterly Reports will be real jaw droppers.
I have no idea, but thought I would toss that out there.  | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/29/2008 4:09:47 PM | Congress Declared Marshal Law on Saturday Night, The Leaman Group shipped out 400 Billion last month to Europe and they declared insolvent, expecting bushco to come up with another 700 Billion, just for grinn's and gigles... 
Flee The USA if you want, But I'm an American, so I say Dig In, it's bound to be a Long One... | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/29/2008 5:06:04 PM | To read the Army Times article, go here:
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
Seems dandy, till you read this part:
They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control
We should be safe, though. The Posse Comitatus Act prevents the use of the US Military for police enforcement on US soil.
Sec. 1385. - Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
Also notable is the following provision within Title 10 of the United States Code (which concerns generally the organization and regulation of the armed forces and Department of Defense):
10 U.S.C. ยง 375. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel
The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.
From Wikipedia
Oh, wait. That is all changed now (also from Wikipedia):
HR5122 also known as the John Warner Defense Authorization Act was signed by the president on Oct 17, 2006 John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007. Section 1076 Text of Hr5122 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". Removing the legalese from the text, and combining multiple sentences, it provides that: The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
January, 2009 will become January, 1984 | |
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| Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 9/29/2008 10:40:52 PM |
HR5122 also known as the John Warner Defense Authorization Act was signed by the president on Oct 17, 2006 John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007. Section 1076 Text of Hr5122 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". Removing the legalese from the text, and combining multiple sentences, it provides that: The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
I suppose in microscopic print somewhere it defines:
People: George W. Bush and no one else.
And what bunch of blooming idiots just sat around and watched him do this?
Our good Representatives and Senators?
I would not put it above George Bush to suspend elections or the transfer of power.
The man does tip his hand in preparations for the big snafus that eventually follow.
Lord only knows what Georgie has planned. A few years back there was talk of the formation of some worldwide council of nations where Bush envisioned himself being named President after his terms in the U.S., with final control over all member nations, including the U.S.
I wonder how that's all going?
I did find it interesting how many Republicans voted against Bush's bailout today. Maybe they know something... | |
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