| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 10:14:28 AM | I think it would be poignant for us all to take a few minutes to remember all those who laid down their lives in that catastrophe which was WWI.
This disasterous war left millions dead and many from a whole generation without fathers, brothers, sons.
It will have touched virtually all of our families between 1914-18 and with hardly any soldiers left alive who fought during this time I think the least we can do is remember those who were slaughtered. | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 1:02:47 PM | My Grandad had his 21st birthday on the Front during the The Somme .. he used to tell me all about the horror of it when I was a kid, but I never appreciated the severity of it all .
I do now, and remember him and his stories on the 11/11 . I cant imagine what he went through . He had something of a luxury job, being in the REME, and not stuck in the trenches condemned to death when the order to go over the top came . Even so, he had some close shaves , and some funny tales as well :)
RIP Gramps | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 1:23:20 PM | | The amount of life lost in the first war was beyond belief and should never be forgotten but we should also take time to remember those lost in the 2nd world war and in the pointless conflicts since. I shall pay my respects tomorrow morning and on the 11th , I for one am grateful for the sacrifice they made to give me the life and the freedom I enjoy. | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 1:34:34 PM | I too wear my poppy with pride. My grandfather fought in the Somne. He survived, his brother didn't.
I still have his dead brother's photograph album from his days as a soldier. I look at it from time to time. It's a fascinating look at the life of someone related to me who I never knew.
Sadly I never knew my grandfather either, as he died long before I was born. He was buried with some shrapnel still embedded in his jaw from the war. We take so much for granted these days. The least we can do is take a minute to pay our respects. | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 1:40:49 PM | i refuse to wear a popy or take part in the rememberance day celebrations, war is not to be gloryfied, we should be looking back on the mistakes we made as a human race, we should not have had to kill or be killed.
How these poor soldiers can ever have any respect for a government that made them fight on the front line or get shot for not following orders is sickening, many of them were so scared they froze and got shot, either that or face the firing squad of their own country men, its all wrong.
We need to move on, war is such an evil thing, it shouldnt happen, and i certainly will not be taking part in gloryfiing it all but taking time to think about how ashamed i s0metimes am to be human.
If you must wear a popy choose a purple one, think of all the animals that lost their lives in the wars, they had no choice, it wasnt their war, it was the war of men, sad little men who knew no different, scared little men who were too afraid to say no i wont be part of it.
If we had no military in this world there would be no war. If there ever is a one world government there wil be a one world army, what will we have to fight against then? Nothing cause we will all be equal.
Blessed be to those who have passed and gave their lives for no reason but to protect our government and royal family, not worth it was it, where did it get them, shot thats what. i have no respect for the pupets of society who just obey the governments orders to protect the queen and king, you really think these men lost their lives for our protection, no they lost their lives for profit, royalty and the UK politicians nothing more
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 2:22:25 PM | | well said wildgreenwitch..i couldnt of put it better myself..it is so sad millions of men on all sides died for nothing..it should of been the war to end all wars..but it wasnt..we the human race learnt nothing from both world wars..and i dont think we ever will... | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 2:30:23 PM |
i refuse to wear a popy or take part in the rememberance day celebrations, war is not to be gloryfied
Armistice day has nothing to do with glorifying War..........Sad that you see it this way.....
Its about respect, for all the things you then went on to say...
Do you know where our poppy money goes to..........The very people who deserve it...
And yes, its important to move on..But
“Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.”
We need to remember...........I really dont want it happening again.....
Blessed be to those who have passed and gave their lives for no reason but to protect our government and royal family
I agree. In fact, i agree with plenty you say............I just dont agree with your reasoning....... | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 2:39:06 PM |
i refuse to wear a popy or take part in the rememberance day celebrations, war is not to be gloryfied
Thats so far from what Rememberance Day is about. Its not glorifying war, its a day to remember those that died. In fact the original intention was to sustain the memory of how horrific the First World War was, and hopefully remind us all so that such a thing could never happen.
I'll wear a poppy, not just for the memory of World War One, but for those that have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. I may not have wanted them there, but they are there because of our elected government, and because we didn't do enough to stop it. And I'll wear it because the money will go to help support the families of those killed out there | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 2:42:52 PM | refuse to wear a Poppy or take part in the remembrance day celebrations, war is not to be glorified, we should be looking back on the mistakes we made as a human race, we should not have had to kill or be killed
I don't know where to start with this one... attitudes like that make me shake my head in wonder at where these stupid ass ideas come from...
Wearing poppy does not and never has done glorified war... it' homage to those who lost their life in the service of their country and by doing so allowed people to form stupid ass ideas....
How these poor soldiers can ever have any respect for a government that made them fight on the front line or get shot for not following orders is sickening, many of them were so scared they froze and got shot, either that or face the firing squad of their own country men, its all wrong.
They had pride in their country they had pride in the royal family... They didn't fight for a government they fought to keep a way of life.... And who are you to say it was wrong...
If we had no military in this world there would be no war. If there ever is a one world government there Will be a one world army, what will we have to fight against then? Nothing cause we will all be equal
Once again shakes my head in wonder at the sheer oh wow... I'm speechless....
The military doesn't cause wars humans do....
Blessed be to those who have passed and gave their lives for no reason but to protect our government and royal family, not worth it was it, where did it get them, shot thats what. i have no respect for the puppets of society who just obey the governments orders to protect the queen and king, you really think these men lost their lives for our protection, no they lost their lives for profit, royalty and the UK politicians nothing more
Once again shakes head in wonder.....
I will wear my poppy with pride.... I will attend a service and pay homage to those who served and still serve and to those who lost their lives so I could keep mine...
I thank you... | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 2:56:11 PM | I'll second that Punkin. I will wear my poppy with pride also - for the members of my family who lost their lives in the First and Second World Wars, and for my friends who have lost their lives (and one or two, their limbs) in Iraq and Afghanistan! I will also wear it for a 6month old puppy whom was "adopted" by a Regiment out in Iraq and was run over and killed only this month by an Iraqi - on purpose!!
I do not condone war one bit - nobody wins in war, but I still have the utmost respect, admiration and grattitude for those who fight these wars and risk either coming back severely injured or in a wooden box!
Lest we forget. | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 2:57:14 PM | wildgreenwitch...
i think u will find many many went too war not because they had no choice or for government but because for them it was the right thing too do, my grandfather joined up as all his mates did as soon as he was old enough too, and im sure his father before him did the same in the first world war.it is easy too sit back and say the worlds learned nothing, but has it, if u look at the next leval of warfare that could of been available at the end of the second world war, a third world war would be unthinkable.
in those times values where different than they seem today, we should remember those freedoms you enjoy today. | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 3:01:56 PM | I'd have liked to respond to some of the absolute drivel posted earlier but i find my stunned that someone could comment on something they obvioussy know nothing about.
"If we had no military in this world there would be no war. If there ever is a one world government there wil be a one world army, what will we have to fight against then? Nothing cause we will all be equal."
wonder what looney la la left leaflet that little quote came out of?
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 3:12:15 PM |
i refuse to wear a poppy or take part in the remembrance day celebrations, war is not to be glorified, we should be looking back on the mistakes we made as a human race, we should not have had to kill or be killed. I always wear my poppy with pride , I am not glorifying war at all im being respectful to those that fought for the freedom we have today .  | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 3:20:08 PM | Poppies were originally sold to help raise funds for war widows that received no pension and those that could not work again after they had fought in a war.
Now that most of these people are 'gone,' the money raised is used to help those that have fought and are under going hardship.
The only other reason that the British Legion and associated military charties ask any one to wear a poppy is in REMEMBERANCE of those poor souls that fought and died to keep Britain a democratic country.
The wearing of a poppy has buGGer all to do with politics, religion, government etc, and everything to do with those men and women that are prepared to lay their lives on the line in battle.
I very nearly lost someone extremely dear to me in Iraq but thankfully he is alive and doing very well now. He fought because he wanted to help free the world of tyranny and he wanted to be on the front line if Britain was ever under threat again.
That's his choice but he will never forget those friends and commrades he lost in battle .
I will wear my poppy with pride, pride for those men that lost their lives in wars and in rememberance of their short lives, not for any other reason. | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 3:28:45 PM | [ refuse to wear a poppy or take part in the rememberance day celebrations, war is not to be gloryfied]
Poppies are not about glorification they are about remembering sacrifice, I have known people who have lived through both wars, yes I am that old. Yes,l war is pants, and I don't believe in it, but I am eternally grateful to those whose sacrifices allow us the freedoms we have today.
Take a look at the Nuremburg trial transcripts.
Ignoring war, wishing, or pretending it doesn't happen is as futile and naive as pretending humans, as a species, are benevolent and clever enough to create nirvana.
Come on we are mostly on here because we can't even manage a peaceful and harmonious relationship or existance with those we love, and thought loved us the most. As for no military even the most primitive of insect species have evolved their own military. Get your head out of the sand try reading Animal Farm. | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 3:39:17 PM | I will wear my poppy with pride and respect. Not only for those that died in ww1 and ww2 but for every serviceman who fought and died doing a job for their country that they believed in!
Also lets not forget the thousands of servicemen who have fought in previous wars and those still fighting in current wars.
Whether you agree with those wars or not ,the fact is they are still fighting a war!
Brave and courageous people!
Let us never forget. | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 4:00:40 PM | I'll be wearing mine.
Out of respect for my dad - in the services for 14 yrs - sadly broke his back during active service.
For my brother who narrowly escaped with his life during his time in Iraq. Recently returned from Afghanistan.
For my grandads who served in WWII
And for J.....miss you everyday babe.....will be at the castle, same day, same time as always on our day.....R.I.P. gone but not forgotten xxx
T x | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 4:15:47 PM |
you really think these men lost their lives for our protection .
Of course they did!
If it wasn't for them, we'd be under Germany's rule! Someone had to stand up and stop them and unfortunately a lot died. Just imagine how we'd be living if we just let the enemies invade.
I've lost family members in both wars, my dad fought in WWII and saw a lot of his friends killed....are you going to tell him it was for nothing?
I hate war but sometimes you have to stand up for yourself otherwise the power crazed will come and take everything...unfortunately there will always be those around somewhere.... | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 4:20:05 PM | Im going on the march with my 7 year old twins, they really want to do it.
My grandad was a surgant in the army and went everywere with his unit in ww2 (and lives to tell the tail), his older brother died in WW1
My sons wearing his army outfit, I checked if it was OK as I didnt want to offend, and the organisers said that would be great and they shall look out for them. | |
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| 90 Years Since the end of the First World War
Posted: 11/8/2008 4:23:59 PM | i refuse to wear a popy or take part in the rememberance day celebrations, war is not to be gloryfied, we should be looking back on the mistakes we made as a human race, we should not have had to kill or be killed.
You're missing the point. Wearing a poppy isn't to glorify war. It's to remember the poor buggers who gave their lives and didn't really have that much choice in the matter.
I don't recall seeing government officials selling poppies. Usually it's some old bloke who's seen horrors that i could never imagine.
I'll happily wear one of his poppies. | |
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