| | What I learned today Eeek!Page 1 of 2 (1, 2) | Went to the sexual health center today because I wanted to educate myself on the different types of STD's, particularly HIV. Most shocking news I've ever heard. In my city 71 people have contracted HIV in the last year. Three of the high risk groups are prostitutes, men who have sex with prostitutes, and the wives or significant others of these men. Fortunately I have never slept with anyone in any of these categories, but even so I am paranoid because someone I was previously involved with had more sexual partners than he admitted to.
Anyways I have a few more questions that I forgot to ask the nurse so if anyone has any expertise in this area please share your knowledge. First question, approximately what percentage of the population in Canada and the United States is infected? Second question, what are the odds of contracting HIV from someone who has it when using a condom and when not using a condom? And last question, what are some more of the high risk groups? | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 6:13:32 PM | | Another high risk group are intravenious (sp?) drug users. Sharing needles has been a leading cause of HIV infections in the past. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 6:17:28 PM | So do you expect to get a doctor's opinion here? If and when you decide to have children, are you going to consult the pizza guy on whether to have a c- section?
Check with online med stuff from your province or Health Canada! | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 6:28:30 PM | Gotta agree with Nrml67. Your provincial health care website has all this information you seek and more. That was my first point of call before getting "tested" and understanding how I could be certain a new partner was "safe".
SARL | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 6:33:47 PM | Highest risk group in male homosexuals, followed by prostitutes and IV drug users, then it starts to get murky about the next groups.
Risk when using a condom is very low the virus is not very viable after it leaves the host. Saliva actually has a lot of enzymes in it that destroys many bacteria and viruses.
The percentage is higher in the US than Canada simple because there are more people.
While in Africa the rate is about 50 % infection in some countries, it is actually climbing in China since they wouldnt admit there was a problem.
I do know the blood supply here in Canada is one of the safest in the world since blood donations are tested twice for HIV, one for the antibody to the virus and a second time for the actually virus.
Since people can be asymptomatic for a long time with HIV, I would recommend regular HIV testing, some places in the states include HIV testing as part of the prenatal screening. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 6:35:11 PM | I'm pretty sure we don't have a provincial health care website in my province. I have looked for it, but it's not there.
BTW I was not looking for a response from the pizza guy. I am more interested in hearing from people who actually have knowledge about this, for example, nurses, sexual health educators, etc. Clearly, they are more intelligent than yourself. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 6:35:19 PM |
Second question, what are the odds of contracting HIV from someone who has it when using a condom and when not using a condom? And last question, what are some more of the high risk groups?
The odds of getting HIV when you're using condoms is higher for women than men. You're the place it goes. Guys get up and wash it off, harder for a woman to get rid of all traces. Condoms are only safer sex. They are overrated. A good idea, but not 100% protection.
Saliva actually has a lot of enzymes in it that destroys many bacteria and viruses.
True, but semen is a gelatinous mass, doesn't dissolve well in saliva and therefore only the surface of the globs gets in contact with the saliva. The rest gets through the spit untouched.
High risk groups?
Swingers
Swappers
Ethnic minorities
Poverty groups
Drug users
Bisexual men and women | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 6:40:09 PM | As Saskatoon as over 200,000 people, that means an infection rate of 0.035%.
Sorry, but I think your alarm is misplaced.
Cheers,
Mike (use condoms and chill out) | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 6:44:57 PM | | Insult me all you want.....your questions are all answered @ Health Canada...that's better than an opinion. Why waste your time? | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 7:45:56 PM | | Believe it or not the greatest growth risk group is from seniors in planned communities such as Florida.... a real eye opener.... because they ASSUME there is no need for protecti0n from only pregnancy they get HIV and spreads like wildfire... Go figure!!!! | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 7:50:34 PM | Aids has been cured :
http://news.aol.com/health/article/marrow-transplant-may-have-cured-aids/246178?icid=200100397x1213335673x1200787698 | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 8:09:08 PM | Women are at a greater risk of contacting it from a man then a man from a woman. Having another sexually transmitted disease makes it easier to contact AIDS. A good portion of women who become infected get it from a partner that injects drugs. As the rest of the diseases it is more prevalent in vulnerable groups -- poor, homeless, unemployed, aboriginal, and intravenous drug users.
If you want to do some reading
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dc-ma/aids-sida/index-eng.php
http://www.uofaweb.ualberta.ca/healthinfo/nav02.cfm?nav02=27904&nav01=27613
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/aids-sida/
http://www.thebody.com/index/hotlines/canadian_aso.html
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Aids has been cured :
http://news.aol.com/health/article/marrow-transplant-may-have-cured-aids/246178?icid=200100397x1213335673x1200787698
from the article.
While researchers — and the doctors themselves — caution that the case might be no more than a fluke
Before the transplant, the patient endured powerful drugs and radiation to kill off his own infected bone marrow cells and disable his immune system — a treatment fatal to between 20 and 30 percent of recipients.
Sure sounds like a cure.
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Posted: 11/13/2008 8:16:31 PM | Chancelore, your prejudice and ignorance is showing.
I'm a medical economist. I compile medical statistics and have extensive experience with the HIV± population of Miami and SFLA.
The safest risk group is lesbians, so a truly bisexual woman, controlling for all other factors, would cut her risk by 50%.
Please define "ethnic groups" and "poverty groups" for us, will you? Are aboriginal North Americans an ethnic group in your hateful little world? Jews? Asians? Les Quebecois?
Frankly, a population of 71 isn't great enough to make any statistically significant conclusions, though the metric you use is "per 1000" and not as a percentage of the population.
Give blood and by the time you answer all the questions, you'll know what clinical professionals consider risky.
BTW - there is not a single documented case, not ONE, of ANYONE ever contracting the HIV virus through oral sex. Not even among male homosexuals. Not even in Africa. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 8:39:53 PM | Do research on the internet. There are a couple of positions (medical and political) on the issue of AIDS that cloud the issue. There are the people who will convince you that unprotected sex with anyone will give you aids unless, and there are the people who claim aids is not an issue.
First. In the province of Ontario, (and I assume your province) AIDS testing is free, simple and easy. Its a blood sample. Tests should be taken no less that 60 days after the incident (the sex.).
Second. Aids is not particularly easily transmitted. Condoms, unless they rupture are 100% effective. (Sorry to the religious people who claim only abstinence will work.)
Third. AIDS is most often transmitted by anal sex. In countries where Anal sex is common as an alternative to avoid pregnancy, transmission between men and women is higher.
Fourth. Men are less likely to get AIDS if they are circumcised.
Fifth. In the U.S. testing for AIDS is less common. People are afraid to test for AIDS because if their HMO finds out, it will conclude that they are doing risky behaviours and cut them out.
Sixth. In the U.S. the rate of AIDS among African Americans is far higher than among other groups. Some people claim that rate is comparable to the worst parts of africa. In Canada the rate is higher about first nations.
Seven. AIDS transmission during oral sex is low, and some say none existent. (Sorry to the religious groups that consider oral sex perverted.)
In summary. Get tested. Make him wear a rubber until you know him. Then make him get tested. Avoid IV drug users.
Finally, as one person remarked the rate in Canada is less that 1%. In other words, you chances of hitting the jackpot are low. Even if you have 20 lovers, you chances are less than 1 out of 5 that you will be in danger. Still, that doesn`t mean you should be silly | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 9:16:40 PM | Did you discuss oral sex without a condom? Some people don't think about that, but there are STD's transmitted that way. Herpes is transmitted by just skin to skin contact, so even a condom won't help. I didn't check out the links that someone else provided, but you really should google STD's and read what they are and how you can get them. The latest information is about HPV. They are finding out it can cause problems in your throat and elsewhere, it isn't just cervical cancer that HPV effects.
I think it is smart of you to check the rules before you play the game! Stay safe. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 10:32:56 PM | | HIV isn't really that common in Saskatoon even with infected CFL players running around... less than 100 is almost nothing compared to the population. In Calgary, it's nearly unheard of to be given an HIV test if you're not in the high risk group unless you specifically request STD + HIV testing because it's so very rare. That's not to say you should be reckless... but realistically you should be much more concerned about other STDs that are all over the place. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 10:45:35 PM | UnnecessaryCapitalization: you are right, and I was only referring to HIV in terms of risk for oral sex. I also recall from other posts that you have a huge ick factor for oral sex, you you, for one, don't have so much to worry about.
The herpes virus can be exchanged M2M, M2G, G2M, G2G, and I've even read of cases where people didn't wash their hands after sex, then rubbed their eyes, becoming infected that way.
You can infect yourself as well, so if you have an outbreak of coldsores around your mouth, wash your hands before you masturbate.
And to the poster above you, you're really wrong about the HMO comment, and irresponsibly wrong to even suggest that blacks in the States have HIV rates approaching those of (sub-Saharan) Africa. It's slightly higher than whites, yes, but if the African rates approach 40% in the worst areas (SA, Zim, etc.), and blacks make up 12% of the US population, than even if blacks were the only ones to have HIV, then 4.8% of the US population would be HIV+.
Posts about STDs & homosexuality really bring the enthusiastically ignorant out to play.
Everyone has a right to their opinion, but they don't have a right to their own facts. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2008 11:35:36 PM | I met a man on pof a few months ago and late one night we were talking, he had just gotten in from a bar and he was pretty tanked...I doubt he would have told me otherwise. He said he had turned down 4 women and I asked why he would turn down women and come home and log on a dating site, he said he was HIV positive.
He said normally it doesnt make alot of difference to the women where he lives, even when he tells women he is they will still have sex with him if he uses a condom.
Sorry but I bailed...I mean why in the world would you risk your life for sex...it is just insane..and yes he did send me hate mail for being a hater ...
People always think it wont happen to them...his claim was that he was so healthy that he only had the virus in 1 percent of his blood...I can really see some insane woman buying into this crap and thinking it was ok cause he said it was. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2008 1:05:12 AM | The at risk groups change your geographic location; and sexual practices common with that area. In the rural south, the fastest growing group is heterosexual IV drug users, and their sexual partners. In the beginning, the homosexual community was great about policing their own. I.E. there was HUGE pressure on to use condoms every time, all the time; and that played an equally huge roll in bringing down the number of new cases within the homosexual community. As they have gotten slack those numbers are beginning to rise again. You'll need to Google Canadian statistics to get a more accurate picture. I read something recently that put the rate in the United States at very close to the one previously quoted for Canada, at around 0.033% or 3.3 per 1000; but, again, it depends on what part of the nation you are in.
Google Canadian Stats; you'll get much better numbers and information. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2008 5:16:30 AM |
UnnecessaryCapitalization: you are right, and I was only referring to HIV in terms of risk for oral sex. I also recall from other posts that you have a huge ick factor for oral sex, you you, for one, don't have so much to worry about. Keep_N_It_Reel is the OP's name. I see no one with the name Unnecessary Capitalization, if you are however, referring to me, I certainly no not what you speak of. I absolutely never posted an "ick factor." If you are going to refer to posts without flaming, I suggest you state whatever facts you are trying to state.
Everyone should be aware of all STD risks including HIV and it has been contracted orally by person giving oral sex to someone.
What happens in my bedroom is no ones business. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2008 5:18:14 AM | | I do not care what country we are in , what color anyone is or how one has sex. Bottom line is STD's are EVERYWHERE and a lot of people do not even KNOW if they have one! I have a close friend, who called me 2 nights ago, in hysterics. He is straight, but belongs on a few dating sites, and on occasion hooks up with "two women" or a "couple" (not the man but the woman in the relastionship.) No, I do not agree with this behavior, however, he found out, even with the use of a condom, he has contracted Hep and Herpes. And is ranting about the fact, he was told ALL THESE PEOPLE were CLEAN and had CLEAN TEST RESULTS. His doctor said the most intelligent comment I feel I heard for the week; " STD TESTS ARE LIKE CHECKS. THEY ARE GOOD TODAY, BUT CAN BE BAD TOMORROW." His doctor continued to tell him body fluid is present during sex no matter what safety precautions are used. I think ANYONE of us is at risk. Maybe some risks are higher, but we really do not always know where everyone else has been. Please be careful people. Contracting STD's will change someone's life. He is now faced with an even HIGER risk for good health, will be on medication the rest of his life, and like he said, "How the hell will I ever meet a normal woman who will want me?" He has since taken himself off the sites and is seeing a counselor. I feel horrible for him, but this stuff runs thru my mind all the time. I love my friend as a friend and will do whatever I can to comfort him. His actions used to scare me, now they simply have become what I was afraid of for him all along. I refuse to put myself above anyone else on this issue. It can happen to ANY ONE OF US. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2008 6:29:26 AM | Needle-sharing junkies, and prostitutes may be people who are considered higher risk.
But anyone engaging in unprotected sex is at some risk of STD infection.
You can't guarantee that you're safe from HIV just by avoiding "high risk" people.
...and even if the rate of HIV is low in Saskatoon, rates of other STDs in Saskatchewan are disturbingly high.
I'm pretty sure we don't have a provincial health care website in my province. check these links:
http://www.health.gov.sk.ca/healthline-online
http://www.healthwise.net/saskhealthlineonline/Content/StdDocument.aspx?DOCHWID=hw151408
Posts about STDs & homosexuality really bring the enthusiastically ignorant out to play.
Everyone has a right to their opinion, but they don't have a right to their own facts I'll agree. If you want reliable information on HIV, use the links I provided. Don't trust the info you'll find in a forum such as this. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2008 7:27:43 AM | | i am glad there is someone like me who does not sleep around.look in my city in vermont rutland there are more people between the age of 18 to 35 with the highiest std rate wow.then i meet a girl and the subject of how many guys have you slept with some say over ten then some say it was my past and it should not matter yea right.it matters to me i am trying to live not die.they say if you sleep with one of those girls you have slept with everybody she has slept with wow.never mind those one night stands and i think he is cute and you wake up scratching not for me. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2008 9:16:09 AM | i agree with that cute chick bound and tied msg 21
it can not only happen to you but you yourself may be a carrier and don't know it.
don't be too hard on the people who have it. you never know the circumstances.
i met a girl who said she was a virgin at 16 and she was raped and got herpes from her attacker. ~~~at 16!!!~~~ can you imagine? | |
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