http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24670245-2761,00.html?referrer=email
Todd Cardy, court reporter
November 18, 2008 02:00pm

AN ALLEGED rape victim has told a Perth court she was ashamed to feel "erotically stimulated" when her psychiatrist had sex with her on his office floor.

The woman, who cannot be identified, today testified in the Supreme Court against now retired psychiatrist Alan John Stubley, 80, who stands trial on 14 sex charges allegedly committed against two patients in the 1970s.

Mr Stubley has pleaded not guilty to six counts of indecent assault, one count of attempting to sexually penetrate without consent and seven charges of sexually penetrating without consent.

Police allege the offences occurred at Mr Stubley's West Perth practice.

Today, a woman broke down in the witness box as she gave evidence of the first time Mr Stubley allegedly indecently touched her while she was undergoing therapy for her divorce and a recent death in her family.

She said she had a sore neck at the time and he offered to help her with a massage.

``He stood behind me and rubbed my neck,’’ she said, recollecting a visit in 1977.

``It seems to me that he was rubbing his hands around my chest, my breasts.’’

The woman testified that the alleged touching continued in later visits, moving to hugging and later to sex, which she said started after he again offered to rub her neck and he motioned her to move to the floor.

``I am ashamed to say that my body was erotically stimulated but my mind was screaming no, no, no,’’ the woman told the court.

The woman said she never spoke during the encounters, most often she was ``frozen’’ and she feared that he would ``come after her’’ if she ever stopped visiting him.

After the first sexual contact she returned for further visits, with the sex lasting four years.

She stopped seeing him in 1981.

``I was in absolute turmoil. I was just frightened, frightened, frightened,'' she said.

``How could a psychologist do that of all people, something so spiteful, so mean, so cruel.’’

The trial before Justice Narelle Johnson continues.

What does the POF Jury think about the case? Wonder if it will be different to the Justice’s ruling?

What does the POF Jury think about the case? Wonder if it will be different to the Justice’s ruling?

While there is no "Statute of limitations" (is this an Australian term???) for murder or violent sexual assault,

If there was no violence, is it worth pursuing in the courts?

that is not true at all very very very incorrect -

professionals have been aware of sexual manipulations of patients for many years/decades.

As such are trained skilled in dealing with it and they even used proper education to do the training.

And again people of what ever gender or sexual orientation can choose to see any professional they want male or female, it is thier choice, it has been like that for well over a decade.

Not all patients with BPD manipulate using sex. This also is very untrue. In fact many people you would probably class as ' normal' and I do hate that word.. use sex to manipulate. Hell many fishes in the pond do and its also not just the females!

I only communicated i wondered what she was seeing the shrink for and went in to why, so my post probably will be completely irrelevant but forgive me for not thinking along the lines of the masses.

February 13, 2004 - 12:33pm
A Victorian judge today said he believed suspended ATSIC chairman Geoff Clark raped a woman 33 years ago in a gang attack and gave her an extension of time to bring a civil action against him.
County Court Judge John Hanlon today granted Carol Anne Stingel, 48, an extension of time under the statute of limitations to take action against Mr Clark over an alleged gang rape in 1971.
Ms Stingel claims she was pack-raped twice by Mr Clark and six others at Warrnambool in Victoria's south west when she was 16.
"I am satisfied to the requisite degree that the events described in 1971 did take place and Mr Clark was the leader of the pack on the first two occasions on which she was raped," Judge Hanlon told the court.
Judge Hanlon said he was satisfied Ms Stingel did not suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder from the rapes until the first half of 2000, within the allowed statute of limitations period.
Clark's barrister, Robert Richter QC, said the Aboriginal leader, who denied the claims, would appeal the decision.
He disputed Judge Hanlon's ruling, saying he "could not and must not" rule Mr Clark was guilty of rape because he had not heard the defence case.
"We were never confronted with the position where we could defend the accusation of rape," Mr Richter said.
But Judge Hanlon said he could only operate on the material in front of him.
Outside the court, Mr Clark vowed to keep fighting.
"I must be the most vilified man in Australia's history, thanks to you people (the media)," he said.
Ms Stingel told the media she cried tears of joy when Judge Hanlon made his ruling.
Flanked by Joanne McGuinness, who last year won the right to sue Mr Clark for an alleged rape at a Warrnambool beach in 1981, Ms Stingel said she did not expect such a strong finding in her favour.
"I'd like to think this is a win for every abused woman in this country, and child," she said.
"I hope they all come forward and put up with the little bit of pain that I've been going through in the last week and realise it's worth it."
AAP

My question is;

why 4 years???

Is 4 years of going back rape???

4 years and she knew she was being rape but kept quiet for 4 years and 20 years later comes out to call it rape??

I am sorry but people are playing with each other and the world is turning ugly.

I am sure more will come out of this case. Her part.

edit:

I wonder how much she would get paid to sell her story to the media??

Often when a man is rape by another man as much as he might hate it, try and fight screem etc.... it doesn't stop his G spot from being stimulated as it in his anus and while he is being raped and no daubt the worst day of his life, he finds him self erect and may even ejaculate now when its finished he is left with the guilt that he was " aroused to the point of ejuculation" he then wonders if he is gay did he actuly enjoy it etc... he dosen't understand why it happen unless explained to0 him, but say he was in jail. who is he going to tell??

Was he wrong because it would apear he enjoyed it?? is he now gay?? etc.... because many turn gay after would, as they never understand why it happen "as it did"

Maybe she waited for so long because she was scared of getting belittling reactions from people ??

The verdicts, all but one of which were unanimous, came after four days of evidence during which the victims, both now 62, said they had never wanted the sexual contact but Stubley had intimidated them and threatened to incarcerate them in hospital.

Stubley also gave evidence, saying he believed at the time that “bed therapy” could be helpful but that a spiritual change in the early 1980s led him to now regard it as unethical.

The court was told one victim continued to see Stubley for four years, while the other visited him on and off for 21 years.

Defence lawyer Mark Trowell argued while his client’s actions may have been unethical, the case was not being heard in a “court of morals”.

Stubley also gave evidence, saying he believed at the time that “bed therapy” could be helpful but that a spiritual change in the early 1980s led him to now regard it as unethical.

I am still pondering , was there a way for those women to avoid it? okay maybe not immediately we don’t live in a backward country and I am sure someone could have helped them a long time ago.