| | Cardio and Weight trainingPage 1 of 3 (1, 2, 3) | Is it better to do cardio after weight training to burn more fat? I am not sure how this would work? Does the body metabolize faster after the weights therefore making the cardio more effective?
Someone said it does? | |
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Posted: 12/1/2008 12:23:06 PM | | As far as I understand, after doing a small warm up, weights first then cardio (high intensity is best). The weights will use the initial stores of energy most readily available, cardio will then use fat stores for energy. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2008 2:10:31 PM | | Unless you are an elite athlete, it isn't going to make too much difference. If you can do a longer cardio workout before compared to after, doing it before makes sense. You really don't burn many Calories in the weightlifting part of your workout anyway, so then one is left arguing about elevated metabolism after the work out and stuff like that. Personal preference is going to win for most people. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2008 6:07:41 PM | Best to do weights first -- when you have all your strength.
It doesn't take so much strength for cardio -- just stamina. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2008 7:10:10 PM | | I don't know if it is better but I do a quick 5min tread then hit the weights and then come back to tread for 30min to finish the workout. While lifting I do stretches. Other reason why I don't do cardio first is so I don't leave sweat all over the weights and machines. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2008 8:43:29 PM | I find that interval training works the best. I'll either do 30/30 or 15/15/15/15/ (I always begin with the cardio though, it warms me up for the weights) ~guess that was your original question huh? lol......
My g/f was a personal trainer.....she taught me to utilize this method. It seems to work well for me. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2008 10:43:13 PM | | Building muscle makes you burn more fat. But if you are a beginner at this it isn't going to make a huge difference. A combination of cardio and weights is a good way to start out... weights first, then cardio... but do a warm up before you start anything. | |
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Posted: 12/8/2008 3:43:19 AM | | Cardio will use up all your blood sugar, which you need for heavy lifting. Leave cardio for after your weight training. Better yet, do weights for one day, followed buy some regular cardio, if you have the energy for it, then do HIIT training the next day. That'll get you fast results. | |
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Posted: 12/8/2008 6:28:22 AM | I would think it depends on what your cardio workout and strength workout is for that day. Day's I do leg workouts (squats, lunges, deadlifts,etc) I do an easy cardio, usually swim drills that focus on technique. Days that I focus on upper body strength the order I do them in is whatever best fits my schedule that day. Though I never swim on upper body workout days I run, play basketball, or bike. I do strength exercises 8 months of the year during maintenance training for tri's and endurance races, I am not looking at adding bulk. Your goals may come into play in the order of doing them.
As someone said it's a personal preference, though I add a little common sense to it. | |
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Posted: 12/9/2008 2:48:38 PM | It is better to do a five to ten minute cardio work out to warm up. Then do the weight/strength training, and back to the cardio afterwards. I am pretty sure this is the best way to do as my trainer works with professional football players who have injuries....
If you are not certain, talk to your doctor and find a personal trainer to help you get started. | |
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Edsta
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Posted: 12/11/2008 12:32:52 PM | If you're trying to lose weight, I'd do the cardio after the weights.
If you're trying to gain muscle, I'd do the cardio about 4 hours after the weights, after your body's had time to digest the post-workout meal.
Ideally, for BOTH goals above, if you could lift in the morning and run in the evening or vice versa, that'd allow you to do both at maximum intensity. But not many people have that kind of space in their daily schedule... | |
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Posted: 12/11/2008 1:28:29 PM | | I always wondered if it's possible to gain much muscle when training for endurance events (i.e. open water swim, marathons, triathlons, etc.). I see the strength benefits one can get from weight training, but can't see adding inches to your chest or arm while training hard (aerobic). I strength train over winter and see some gains, then stop while training in spring and summer (not enough time to do strength training). | |
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Posted: 12/11/2008 2:55:06 PM | your kidding right i can burn 500 to 800 calories lifting in an hour to an hour and half
the best way is to do cardio on the morning on and empty stomach and weight training later in the day for best results | |
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Posted: 12/11/2008 5:14:26 PM | | hi... it is a good question and the answers are very informative... I think a yoga routine is invaluable for lengthening/stretching and flexibility.... warmly Mona | |
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Posted: 12/13/2008 10:46:07 PM | Someone asked me to post this for them:
There are so many ways of performing cardio workouts without feeling the need to have to run outside or run on a treadmill. The one thing I've noticed being a trainer is that many people don't bother to try to use their imagination when it comes to exercise. So many people just stick with the basics of what they know, and don't perform exercises outside of their box or comfort zone. You can get an amazing cardio workout in your own home from in a static location. Some examples are: jump rope, burpees, jumping jacks, still running with knees up, jump overboard (find an object not too large you can use to jump over continuously from side to side), ready set go's (position yourself as if you were starting off a race with your hands to the ground, alternate legs). The idea of cardio is to work your heart. So if you have a problem motivating yourself to go outside to run because it is cold, then don't do it. Find other methods. Even if you don't feel like you are getting the same effect as if you would when you are running, it is much better than doing nothing and waiting for winter to go by for you to run outside. As well, I NEVER promote the use of machines such as ellipticals, treadmills, stairmasters because not everybody has them in their own home and not everybody has a gym membership. So what does that mean? A person who doesn't have those tools can't get into shape? Once again, those machines are for people who don't know how to use their imagination and be creative when it comes to exercise. For the record, I don't discourage the use of any machines, because if you have them, use them but I certainly feel they are not necessary for a person to achieve the results they are looking for whether it be losing weight, conditioning so on and so forth. | |
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Posted: 12/14/2008 7:50:36 PM |
As well, I NEVER promote the use of machines such as ellipticals, treadmills, stairmasters ...
For the record, I don't discourage the use of any machines, ...
Once again, those machines are for people who don't know how to use their imagination and be creative when it comes to exercise.
Wow. Jut wow. | |
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Posted: 12/14/2008 11:49:36 PM | It depends on your goals. If your looking to burn fat you want to do cardio either when you first wake up, before eating anything big, (something small to get some energy is ok but keep it light), or right after weight training. Doing the cardio in the morning will start your body burning energy that you have stored rather than what you took in during the day. After weight training your body is in the perfect position for maximizing the results for a cardio workout.
If your looking to gain muscle you still want to do your weight training before the cardio, and keep the cardio light. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2008 12:05:43 AM | this is about the only decent post in this thread, OP dont listen to anyone else, they have no idea what they're talking about. Ok now lets get down to the real facts about cardio, in this case, burning as much fat as possible. There are obviously many forms of cardio to choose from, but most of them fall into two distinct categories: Slow paced and fast paced. I've been hearing about how the HIIT program is the newest rage for losing fat. HIIT isn't revolutionary or even new for that matter. It's not much different than plain old, simple Step Aerobics.
We must first distinguish whether or not your goal is to simply lose some fat, or look your very best. If your goal is to drop a few lbs. or tighten up, then HIIT is a great way to do it. Simple premise, you burn "X" amount of calories over and above what you consume, it will eventually lead to weight loss.
However... if your goal is to look your very best, ...then HIIT is DEFINITELY not for you. The difference is keeping muscle mass.
The two goals are:
To keep muscle mass as high as possible
To get fat % as low as possible
Just how does SLOW cardio actually bypass the carbs and get to the SECOND source of energy (FAT)? EASY, in laymen terms... after a few minutes of doing consistent but slow paced cardio, the body will automatically switch over to the fat stores for energy, sparing the carbs. WHY? Because your not working at a high enough level that the body needs to use it's #1 source of energy (carbs), but it has to give you something to utilize for fuel... that "something" is FAT!
This can only be achieved by getting to the fat burning stage... It's generally after about 10-15 minutes of cardio. (Depending on a million factors!) Some will get there a few minutes faster, some a little slower. This is why we do anywhere from 30 min to 1 hour of cardio. Variables being your conditioning, how close you are to the show, set point metabolism, etc...
Just how slow to go? I personally use the treadmill at about a 3.0 MPH pace, and the stationary bike at about 65 RPM. Remember the faster you go, the harder you work, the more CARBS will be used for fuel!
Let's assume that you're in the 45 minute to 1 hour category and you still have a lot of body fat to lose. Can you exceed the 1 hour mark to burn even MORE fat? The answer is NO. Why? It seems like everything else pertaining to your bodies ability to conserve and store? That what actually happens in the post hour point, is that your body once again becomes aware that your going to extremes and attempts to conserve... this time the FAT.
Once your body has gotten to this point it goes to it's only source of energy left. PROTEIN! When this happens your basically burning MUSCLE for fuel. Ever notice how many long distance runners although being skinny, seem to be soft? Fat is a great source of SLOW long burning fuel for the body (why do you think animals store FAT for their winter hibernation?)
You Have To Have Faith!
One reason that many guys (and girls) are afraid to try this method is that they're afraid it won't work, or because it doesn't "feel" like they're doing anything. People are so used to sweating, and getting the "target" heart rate, that if those two things aren't happening... they can't accept that in their mind, and often revert to the old "calorie burning" techniques which will leave them smaller, softer, thinner and wondering where all the muscle they put on in the off season went to! | |
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Posted: 12/15/2008 1:24:27 PM | | Do your cardio after weight training. Weight traing starts your body metabolism going and starts the fat burning process. By the time you are ready for cardio your body is already burning body fat. If you did the cardio first the first 10-15 minutes your body would burn sugar first. So by doing right after weight training its more effective. Actually same goes for aerobic capacity. | |
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Edsta
| | Joined: 7/19/2008
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| Cardio and Weight training
Posted: 12/15/2008 1:57:47 PM |
this is about the only decent post in this thread, OP dont listen to anyone else, they have no idea what they're talking about. Ok now lets get down to the real facts
LOL, no one would ever think of calling you arrogant, now would they?
Just how does SLOW cardio actually bypass the carbs and get to the SECOND source of energy (FAT)? EASY, in laymen terms... after a few minutes of doing consistent but slow paced cardio, the body will automatically switch over to the fat stores for energy, sparing the carbs. WHY? Because your not working at a high enough level that the body needs to use it's #1 source of energy (carbs), but it has to give you something to utilize for fuel... that "something" is FAT!
This can only be achieved by getting to the fat burning stage... It's generally after about 10-15 minutes of cardio.
Not bad until the last sentence. It's more like 30-45 minutes for most people to switch from burning carbs to burning fat. If you seriously think that 10-15 minutes at a 3mph treadmill or 65rpm rate is going to do it, keep dreaming.
Can you exceed the 1 hour mark to burn even MORE fat? The answer is NO. Why? It seems like everything else pertaining to your bodies ability to conserve and store? That what actually happens in the post hour point, is that your body once again becomes aware that your going to extremes and attempts to conserve... this time the FAT.
You seem to be unaware of the high-carb gels that distance runners consume on long runs of 1 hour and up, or the ones who take along a banana or dried fruit just for that reason, not to mention drinking Gatorade which has lots of carbs.
Ever notice how many long distance runners although being skinny, seem to be soft?
News flash: human flesh, when devoid of significant muscle mass, is SOFT. Unless you're a cadaver. In other words, SOFT does *not* necessarily = FAT. You'd be hard pressed to find any elite runners who have a spare tire around their waistlines.
It makes me wonder if you even know what HIIT really is.
Applied to running, it's NOT about running for 60 minutes at say a 6:30 pace. It's more like 10 minutes at an easy 9:00 pace, then say five 3 minute intervals of say a 7:00 pace with 1 minute rests where you'd either walk or jog at a much slower pace, then 10 minutes cooldown slow jogging. Total workout time should be no more than 30-40 minutes tops.
Forcing your body to adjust to sudden bursts of intense exertion with short rests in between ramps up your metabolism not just during the workout, but AFTERWARDS...for at least a 24 hour period in fact. Higher metabolism + lower fat/calorie + adequate protein diet = weight loss + muscle retention/gain. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2008 5:49:44 PM | | Its better to do your cardio before training. You want to get the blood pumping to your muscles, and the blood will also become more oxygenated. Hopefully when you weight train, you warm up and stretch first, just make cardio part of that warm up routine. | |
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Posted: 12/16/2008 1:02:49 AM | Ok thats great, seems to be working for yourself, what are you about 130lbs soaking wet? Results speak for themselves, and i am living proof, talk to me about what works best when you actually workout yourself  | |
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Posted: 12/16/2008 3:06:14 AM | To BP, in post 18:
I believe what that person is saying is basically, they'd rather someone used their imagination and use objects they have around their home (hence the example that person gave). Climbing stairs is another good example ('x' amount of times), and also using 'a' stair as a stepper to firm up the thighs and glutes. He/She goes on to say that they'd never discourage anyone from using machines IF they dont utilize what they can do at home with what they have around the house. | |
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