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Posted: 12/12/2008 12:37:26 PM | Ever wish you could read someone's mind, or record what your dreams at night?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16267-mindreading-software-could-record-your-dreams.html
"Pictures you are observing can now be recreated with software that uses nothing but scans of your brain. It is the first "mind reading" technology to create such images from scratch, rather than picking them out from a pool of possible images." | |
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Posted: 12/12/2008 1:51:47 PM | | You better hope they dont perfect this... if they do this would be an amazing invasion of personal space. You know that the government would find a way to cross the line with this one. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2008 1:55:24 PM | | Seems like a logical step from bio-interface devices that are hitting the market lately. You wouldn't really be able to record your dreams though the first day you get the device that does this, you'd first have to train it to recognized the patterns that arise when your brain processes information. With that type of technology the accuracy depends upon how much training you put into the software, just like speech recognition. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2008 1:57:59 PM | how i laff
giggles a bit more
ahem
totters of to dream (well the usual do i need to type it by now)
no..nowhere near..observing is a tad different from what one thinks ( as we all think numerous thoughts simultaneously...perhaps about double chocolate chip muffins...who am I to say.
sure we can associate areas or perceived though processes but they are almost certainly individualistic and cannot be rationally quantified except by the mad frothy theorem types
totters of to rationalise his 2nd glass of white | |
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Posted: 12/12/2008 2:10:33 PM | Agreeing with Wicked desires.
Visual imagery, is merely that,.. it doesnt tell you the myriad thoughts, feelings associations that all individuals have towards even one object,, eg, the muffin, lol
I could visualise the muffin,.. but how will that technology decide what my thoughts are about it.. can it tell if Im thinking, muffin,.. hmm.. tasty.. or muffin, yukk!! or muffin.. which may bring associations with chocolate, or wine, of thigh high boots, or tottering off, lol,.. all these things could occur to me whilst thinking about muffins... can your interface sort out those jumbles of thoughts, images, concepts etc.. as well as all the other thoughts Im thinking at the time?
I'm not a one track mind woman. I can think of muffins,.. and a whole lot more simultaneously. Thats one hell of a bit of theoretical technology there, that can sort out what anyones thinking,.. lets face it, most of us dont know what the hell we are thinking of most of the time.
Nope OP, sounds interesting ,.. but a bit simplistic to me.
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Posted: 12/12/2008 2:50:05 PM | Fantastic. Just think of the advantages:
1) In the future, when you are mugged, the police can scan your thoughts to read exactly what the mugger looked like.
2) In the future, when you testify in court, the court can scan your thoughts to see what you ACTUALLY saw, and not have to rely on what you said.
3) In the future, when you go to a job interview, your potential employer can scan you to see if what you wrote on your CV is a lie.
4) In the future, when they get handheld devices, when your wife asks you if you've been thinking of that not woman across the road, or if her bum is big in that dress, and you say "no", she can scan your brain to see if you are lying.
It would be a fantastically good lie detector. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2008 6:11:10 PM | I think there was a Stargate episode doing something like this. Or was it a Star Trek episode. I cannot remember.
I need them to scan my brain, and remind me. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2008 7:34:19 PM |
You better hope they dont perfect this... if they do this would be an amazing invasion of personal space. You know that the government would find a way to cross the line with this one.
Ding ding ding. That could give rise to thoughtcrime. On the bright side hollywood might not steal dream content to base movies on. it would at least be more interesting than the plots for movies these days. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2008 8:16:55 PM | People are voting to delete this thread (for vague/misleading title)...Is the title that misleading? Or do they just read the little part I pasted, and not actually check the link I provided?
I don't understand, these forums are not exactly that organized to begin with, and most people don't post proper titles anyway. I thought this was a good title, as it was in the URL and mentioned in the article itself.
Good to see some of you showed interest in it. I agree it may take some type of training, but who knows -- computers are becoming more and more intelligent. Better and better types of AI are being developed, and maybe the computer will just piece together your thoughts in clear color images on it's own using pre-programmed knowledge and scans from your brain.
It may not tell exactly what you're feeling towards to imagery in your mind, but that may just take a little more programming. | |
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Posted: 12/13/2008 8:28:05 PM | Scanning of my brain?
Fine.
Can they capture my feelings? I highly doubt it 
My thoughts?
Considering that they are created by my feelings, I doubt that too.
They might be able to capture the difference in perception....that is from different contacts of the brain with mind-objects, the difference in the feelings and in perception.....but my Thoughts? Are you kidding me? I can't even capture them.
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Posted: 12/15/2008 8:03:59 AM | Hollleee crap. I didnt think anything like this was even remotely possible.
If the technology could be developed to the point where you could retrive imagery from a specific time or date, the implications for criminal justice are intriquing,
No more lawyers, no more legal games,no more manipulation of the system by criminals. If your a suspect in a crime, you get scanned , and if, innocent walk away.
The guilty would have no options. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2008 10:18:34 AM | while most say you cant record feelings, I'm sure that is correct because when you think about it -- a machine is doing the recording. Does it have feelings? Even if some type of actual AI did it, all that would happen is you would make it feel sad, scared, or whatever you feel which doesn't seem very constructive.
Recording the images you see, and even a video of the imagery you experience in a dream could be very beneficial, and also dangerous in the wrong hands (like a lot of other things).
You can record your dreams to keep a video log, people can study the brain further by examining dream data, people in comas can be monitored to see how they're doing in there if they're stuck in some never ending dream. Courts can examine images from people's thoughts instead of relying on a description.
I don't think it can be as effective as you think, after all the technology is tested on conscious observation of images, not subconscious. Even if I look at a picture just 5 minutes ago, I do not have a clear digital photograph in my head in clear 1080p resolution for you to view. I have a hazy representation of what I saw that could easily be manipulated within my mind to change minor details about it. Maybe it's because I have a shit memory, but I'm not the only one. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2008 4:54:31 PM | | There's a terrific Russian short story "Cheap Deal" by Vladen Bakhnov. He invents a device that will record a person's memory and make copies for implant into other people's memories. So, he interviews failed millionaires who are glad to reminisce for a few rubles. He calls this product "You Had a Million," and for a few more rubles you can have the experience of going thru a million dollars. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2008 11:57:14 PM |
On the bright side hollywood might not steal dream content to base movies on. it would at least be more interesting than the plots for movies these days.
It's funny you should say that, in writing stories I draw a lot of inspiration from parts of dreams I can remember. Lately though I've been getting up typing into notepad while still sleeping, not even remember I had a dream until I read the description typed and suddenly I begin to remember the dream it occurred in. Certainly didn't train myself to do that, thinking it was an auto-response to my always typing up what I remember of dreams as soon as I awake. Not all of it makes sense though, there will be maybe one or two sentences out of a paragraph that are readable enough to understand. | |
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