| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 5:33:18 PM | I'm homophobic , but not in the sense that i fear homosexuals. I just plain think its wrong , and dont like them.
A few years ago , i was forced to work with the vilest most disgusting representative of the gay fraternity that ive ever met.
He spoke with a camp accent , at the top of his voice , and talked about his exploits with men , at the top of his voice , in full earshot of everyone in the office.
None of the straight men in the office liked him , but he was the bosses blue-eye , and when we were left in his charge one day , he split us all up and had us sitting at opposite ends of an empty office , because he was in charge and revelled in the power.
We refused to work , because of the attitude with which he spoke to us.
To cut a long story short , i got sacked because of this absolute fu*king tosser
I went out for a meal one time with my then-girlfriend , and a mate and his girlfriend.
The meal was really nice , and we did the pub crawl thing and when we said to the ladies where they wanted to go next , they said the local gay club cos it was a good laugh.
During the course of the night , i had some gay cu*t pinch my ass , and i turned round and knocked him out.
Naturally , i am homophobic.
I have nothing to hide.....i just dont bullsh*t or try to please people on forums by agreeing with them , just to be seen to be in a certain clique , cos i am my own clique.
I have a little 2 year old daughter called Natalia , and have always been a ladies man , but.........
Im sick of being attacked because im homophobic.
Whats with the whole " ahh , but if you're homophobic , you obviously have something to hide " sh*t ?
It really has come full circle , and its the homophobe who is being attacked now , rather than the gays who have won the hearts of the nation , thanks to the media bombardment from pop culture and the media.
Its a sad state of affairs when what was once subversive , are now seen as the media darlings , and someone cant speak out , because what they say holds amiguous meanings.
so tell me , what is so wrong with being homophobic ? | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 5:38:21 PM | nothing...... as ears nose and throat departments are busy at this time of year ..spare a thought for all the viruses please. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 5:41:33 PM | Naturally , i am homophobic.
No you aren't if you don't fear them just biggoted.
What you mean is you abhor or are intollerant of their way of life.
I don't actively seek them out but in this day and age you just have to be more tollerant | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 5:53:26 PM | Let's turn this little situation on its head shall we?
You don't like the idea that people don't like you for what you feel but it's ok in your book to dislike others for what they feel?
How does that work then? | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 5:53:26 PM | who is saying you have something to hide?
Im sick of being attacked because im homophobic.
so now you know what its like to be attacked....???? hardly anthing at all compared to the lambasting you handed out regarding our gay population earlier this evening.
just imagine what it would be like to live with this disgust all the time,day and night, everywhere you go, always someone ready to hate you for something you cant control.
im assuming that you cant control your biggotry, because i cant believe anyone would choose to think the way you do. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 5:59:48 PM |
Whats with the whole " ahh , but if you're homophobic , you obviously have something to hide " sh*t ?
When an issue plays on a persons mind to the point where they turn into a ranting idiot on a subject it's hardly surprising that others may wonder if there may be an underlying cause for that.
It really has come full circle , and its the homophobe who is being attacked now , rather than the gays who have won the hearts of the nation
The nation probably prefers people who don't go around tw@tting someone who thinks they are in their own safe environment.
so tell me , what is so wrong with being homophobic ?
Nowadays it is usually accepted that intolerance of any kind towards another person simply because they may be different in some way isn't acceptable. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:03:41 PM | I always love it when I hear one person/group brandish the term "bigot" against another person or group, as it's deeply ironic.
A bigot is a person intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, and identities, that don't match their own. Ergo the person crying "bigot" is, more often than not, in the proverbial glass house, throwing stones! | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:05:52 PM | thats exactly the kind of typical response i knew and expected this thread to unearth fiftydollars , and your response is why i asked the question.
If you bothered to read my question , you'd see i have nothing to hide. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:17:16 PM | so im a bigot because im intolerant to homophobia?
using this theory, anyone with a differing opinion is a bigot.
I agree with you so I'm not a bigot.
It's just you.
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:17:56 PM | so im a bigot because im intolerant to homophobia?
using this theory, anyone with a differing opinion is a bigot
Precisely! Why should your intolerance be any more acceptable than his?
Dr Z holds an opinion. I may or may not agree with it, but I stand firm by his right to express it.
(...and it's not a theory, it's logic based on the definition of the word "bigot") | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:19:58 PM | In theory, Cargy is right...... the dictionary entry for bigot says "a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion."
I, personally, am tolerant of everything except intolerance.
And the OP needs to move on. One bad experience of a gay man should not completely taint every thought he has of gay men.
Not so long ago we thought it was ok to hate, and buy/sell, people with different coloured skin than our own. And we thought it was ok to treat women as goods and chattels.
It's called progress, learning, and understanding.
Thankfully progress has been, and is being, made. By most of the human race.
Perhaps the OP should question his own feelings of hatred, seeing as he realises he is in the minority, rather than questioning the majority feeling of acceptance? | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:20:01 PM | | I guess I am homophobic too. However, no matter what my thoughts are towards the gay fraternity, I believe they have the right to do whatever they wish and I wouldn't interfere with them providing they didn't encroach into my space. I don't have gay friends and I don't want gay friends either because I don't like what they do and I don't want to associate them. Nevertheless, it is not illegal to be homosexual in this society so in the eyes of the Law and the People they are doing nothing wrong. Live and let live and allow people to make choices for themselves. They choose to go to gay bars...I choose not to. They choose to watch gay tv programmes....I choose not to. I don't see them trying to force me to be a part of what they do and I am certainly not going to try and force them to stop doing what they choose. This society is big enough for everyone to live how they want to live provided they respect each other's wishes and privacy. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:28:33 PM | avoid my question then cargy...
I wasn't aware that you asked me a question, but a quick glance back over the thread shows two questions made at msg 5 which I am happy to answer from my perspective
You don't like the idea that people don't like you for what you feel but it's ok in your book to dislike others for what they feel?
Personally, I couldn't care less whether people like me or not, they are responsible for their likes/dislikes, and not I. It's between them and their conscience.
For the second question, I refer to the answer to the first | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:28:50 PM |
Dr Z holds an opinion. I may or may not agree with it, but I stand firm by his right to express it.
as do i. in fact i completely admire and respect his perseverence and tenacity. it cant be easy having his outlook.
Why should your intolerance be any more acceptable than his?
because my views are based on knowledge and reflection and his are based on a couple of mediocre life mishaps and a bitterness that indicates unresolved deeper issues towards a particular minority group. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:33:16 PM |
avoid my question then cargy...
I wasn't aware that you asked me a question, but a quick glance back over the thread shows two questions made at msg 5 which I am happy to answer from my perspective
Sorry dude, you weren't... I put your name down by mistake... I amended my original post to refer to zeus instead :D
So, zeus... do you think it's acceptable to hold negative views of others yet protest about other people's negative views of yourself? | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:34:05 PM |
maybe i should start having parades through London ?
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Therapy or counselling might be a better option.
This reply, IMO, is the completely incorrect attitude. No one suggests that people who accept homosexuality need counselling so why should someone who doesn't accept it need counselling? IMO they don't. I don't accept homosexuality in my life at all but I have no need whatsoever for counselling. I can deal with my thoughts myself. Only if a person's thoughts lead them to ILLEGAL activity should anything be done. It is perfectly acceptable for for people to dislike homosexuality. It only becomes unacceptable when they start to take the law into their own hands and try to force their own opinions on other. To express their opinions, however, is fine in my view therefore the OP has a right to express his distaste for homosexuality. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:40:58 PM |
This reply, IMO, is the completely incorrect attitude. No one suggests that people who accept homosexuality need counselling so why should someone who doesn't accept it need counselling? IMO they don't. I don't accept homosexuality in my life at all but I have no need whatsoever for counselling. I can deal with my thoughts myself. Only if a person's thoughts lead them to ILLEGAL activity should anything be done. It is perfectly acceptable for for people to dislike homosexuality. It only becomes unacceptable when they start to take the law into their own hands and try to force their own opinions on other. To express their opinions, however, is fine in my view therefore the OP has a right to express his distaste for homosexuality.
If that is an acceptable comment to the OP - then the OP must accept that others can dislike/insult/despise him too... which makes this whole thread and discussion pointless | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:43:21 PM | My comment about counselling wasn't aimed at you, FF12GM (msg 25) , it was for the OP.
You have already stated how you are in control of your homophobia, and that you are not troubled by it.
The OP is struggling with his hatred, and peoples attitudes toward it, as he so clearly demonstrated in starting this thread. Counselling and therapy may help him to deal more easily with this problem he has. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/30/2008 6:43:42 PM | bovians kloof or whatever the hell youre called......cant you read ?
I dont have any unresolved issues.
I believe in the traditional family base , the way its always been , and i dont like homosexuals , in the way that the majority always felt , until all of a sudden , its become popular to have a wee gay friend and everybody suddenly loves them.
Its the way its always been , and im asking the question , because it came up in the other thread.
I simply wanna know why , when everyone used to be homophobic , is it wrong to be homophobic now ?
As soon as someone says " i dont like gays " now , the bleeding hearts and sympathisers appear , defending them , and issue shite like " you have unresolved issues "
1 + 1 = 3 ? | |
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