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 ManDogPigBrat

Joined: 4/17/2005
Msg: 1
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Posted: 6/22/2005 5:04:12 PM
Does anybody else have chronic fatigue and/or depressions? If so, what do they do to relieve it?
 rocky541

Joined: 5/31/2005
Msg: 2
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Posted: 6/22/2005 5:46:58 PM
My father does... he tries to get out of the house and works a ton on his hobbies. He makes model ships and RC airplanes. Pretty cool stuff. If I were you I would get yourself a hobby thats gonna occupy some time like he is doing.
 MidnightChild

Joined: 6/16/2004
Msg: 3
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Posted: 6/22/2005 6:42:03 PM
Chronic fatigue/depression can be treated by diet and exercise, but you should probably see a doctor anyway. There are a lot of websites that can suggest a plan for you, to include herbal supplements.
 xander

Joined: 2/22/2005
Msg: 4
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Posted: 6/22/2005 7:52:22 PM
Don't believe in it. It's just pop-medicine that decided it was 'suddenly' a condition.

Exercise. Sunlight. Diet. You'd be surprised.
 rocky541

Joined: 5/31/2005
Msg: 5
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Posted: 6/22/2005 8:07:48 PM
ya I dunno where your getting your info but theres no real cure for cronic fatigue..
 UlaLume

Joined: 5/28/2005
Msg: 6
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Posted: 6/22/2005 8:08:28 PM
Maybe he's anemic.

I've been suffering from anemia due to some stomach problems I have. It's very frustrating. Makes you weak and tired.
 sirpaulmccartneyfab_1

Joined: 6/15/2005
Msg: 7
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Posted: 6/25/2005 6:01:18 PM
just like other medical conditions, i think it takes 'having' chronic fatigue to be able to understand it and be able to empathyse with those who suffer from it. diet and exercise are always beneficial but when you live alone, for example, who is going to prepare you those healthy meals? people in general and some doctors too, are skeptical about this condition because the symptoms mymic a lot of other conditions like clinical depression, for example, which can involve those afflicted having almost insurmountable fatigue. conversely, those with chronic fatigue, most often are also affected with deep depression. cases of chronic fatigue have increased ten fold in the last couple of decades. i, for one, believe that it's a real medical condition. whether the increase of cases in the last number of years is due to better fact finding and to medical research which has seen an increase in the last several years, is still an open question.
 shore66

Joined: 5/23/2004
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Posted: 6/26/2005 5:31:42 PM

Don't believe in it. It's just pop-medicine that decided it was 'suddenly' a condition.




And your qualifications to make this determination?
 blountore

Joined: 6/23/2009
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Posted: 10/28/2009 4:42:13 PM
try doing some research, CFS and fibromyalgia are very real and debilitating conditions. They also just discovered a virus very similar to HIV that they think is the cause. You know nothing and therefore shouldn't be posting crap like this.
 WantaSmart1

Joined: 8/18/2008
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Posted: 10/29/2009 1:23:33 AM
Yeah, it wasn't all that long ago that people were saying fibromyalgia was all in the mind. People who knew it all, supposedly. I wouldn't knock or discount either one unless you've had it.

I'm not saying depression or mental state has nothing to do with it - after all the mind and body are intimately entwined. However, when the way you feel physically keeps you from enjoying things you used to, or prevents you from doing things you want or need to, it's certainly no picnic and doesn't make you feel any better. That just makes it even worse.
 yna6

Joined: 1/21/2007
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Posted: 10/29/2009 3:38:36 PM
Mebbe it's mono!
Ever try banging down a few "energy drinks" and seeing how that affects you?
Different ones sometimes have differetn effects. I tried one and thought my heart was gonna bust outta my chest...I had to move around a lot to keep form being stir-crazy!
There is the 5 hour kind too!
I guess corporate America is real happy to see these things on the market....they can burn through more employees faster and get more work done!
 afixerupper

Joined: 8/20/2009
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Posted: 10/29/2009 6:10:42 PM
I've had CFS and several other related issues for over a decade. It's real and there are many different causes of it. It is like saying "cancer" as if it is a single condition. There are many ways to try to minimize its impact, depending on the cause of it. There are many ways to learn to deal with it, to get around it and do the best you can with what you have. Each case is individual and each individual only knows what they can and can't to. It bites.
 monalee1

Joined: 10/22/2007
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Posted: 10/29/2009 6:33:43 PM
hi... it is real but I believe it falls under the umbrella of auto-immune diseases... toxins saturating the cells/tissue so much that impulses and signals are blocked or that our defenses are forced to attack the body because the body registers as the intruder/stranger and enemy.... healthier living is promptly required... see a Hygienist or Naturopathic Dr for your best fighting chance ...blessings for health
 hippyhip

Joined: 4/19/2009
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Posted: 10/29/2009 6:52:51 PM
It could be a lot of things....Go see your doctor and get him to order tests, get some blood work done...It could be a simple overload of sugar, to a lazy thyroid, to anemia, to colon cancer, to hypoglycemia etc etc...There is plenty of information out there, just don't self diagnose on what you read...

Change your diet and try to eat healthy & get some exercise into your daily routine, even a 30 minute walk is a good start..
 blountore

Joined: 6/23/2009
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Posted: 11/1/2009 4:09:50 PM
there are definitive signs of true ME/CFS...it's not just being tired or depressed. It's a neuro-immune disease, they just haven't pinpointed the cause yet. And all naturopaths do is pretend that they know what it is, but they're actually even more useless then MDs...I would know.
 dreamer5565

Joined: 10/10/2009
Msg: 16
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Posted: 11/1/2009 4:44:23 PM
This is my first post on here so go easy on me! I felt I needed to reply to this though.
Firstly, there is a big, big difference between chronic fatigue and chronic fatigue syndrome (more accurately known as M.E) so please try not to get them confused.

Fatigue can be cause by a number of things and the doctor is really the only one who can determine the source. Again, there are many types of depressing with many types of treatment. It can be a result of seasonal affective disorder, emotional turmoil, a chemical imbalance or something entirely different.

To whomever 'doesn't believe in it'-whether this be in depression, chronic fatiuge, or M.E/chronic fatigue synrdome. Do not be so quick to judge. You cannot make snap decisions on something that has such a drastic affect on so many people's lives. Chronic fatigue is very real, and as I say, can be caused by a number of different things. Depression is also very real and can also be incredibly debilitating.

As for me, I've had M.E (myalgic encephalomyelitis) and fibromyalgia for the past 16 years. Now being 23 it has taken over a large portion of my life. Don't judge that this is something made up out of convenience or anything else. At the age of 7 I certainly did not choose to suffer the things I suffered, and at 14 I would have much preferred to have been at school and having fun with my friends that having to have my mother lift me out of bed, bathe me, help me dress and cut up my food for me.


If the original poster or anyone else wishes to discuss any further matters, I'm more than happy to talk. And I hope you can find diagnosis and treatments that work for you (it shoul be noted there is no actual treatment for M.E or fibro, but depression and chronic fatigue can be alleviated or treated)

But for anyone who wishes to jude.. well, don't. It's not your place, it's not your right. And if you could live the life of someone suffering from one of these awful things for even a month, you'd think twice before casting off such outlandish statements about whether they're real or not.
 afixerupper

Joined: 8/20/2009
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Posted: 11/1/2009 6:52:56 PM
Someone asked me today about if the weather affects my fatigue, and I answered him back. This is part of my reply to him, copy and paste, just because no use re-inventing the wheel, is there?

The weather doesn't usually have much effect on good or bad days, except cold. Sometimes I get cold and I just can't get my body kick started. Even a hot HOT shower, five blankets and lying in bed for two hours with a dozen small dogs on top of me and I still feel jacked up. Some days like that I will wear two sweats, and a jacket and go lie out in the back yard on an old lounge chair face down and just cook myself until I can hardly stand it and that seems to help. Sometimes. Sometimes I can feel it coming on early and just stop and lie down as much as I can during the day before it gets bad. Sometimes I have to do what I have to do because the mortgage is due and I need to work the shifts no matter what. I choose mostly as lazy of work as I can get paid for for that reason. Extended care of a comatose guy, short skilled visits for wound care/bowel program, stuff like that. My work is not very hard, and if I could find a way for it to be easier, believe me, it would be. I used to get just WHACKED by this thing. When I say chronic fatigue, I mean BAD! I remember one time I got home, just could not make it from the front door to the hallway. I laid down with my feet by the door, face down and my keys were in my jeans pocket digging into my hip and I could not even roll off it and take my keys out for about eight hours... I have gotten small bedsores from just not being able to turn myself in bed enough, even though I am a nurse, fully understand bedsores, cause and prevention. I just didn't have the strength. Some days I would just crawl to the bathroom to drink from the tub, cuz there was no way I could stand up to get a cup from the cupboard and fill it at the kitchen sink. I would only check my mail about every two weeks or so, too much waste of energy otherwise. The mailman had the cops come check to see if I was dead or something. I said no, just nothing worth going to the mailbox for.... So, I am really, REALLY glad to be able to function so highly now, even though to most people I am pretty low functioning and screwed up still.
 yna6

Joined: 1/21/2007
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:30:22 PM
I still want to see how a diet of those "energy drinks" affects people afflicted.
 afixerupper

Joined: 8/20/2009
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:45:36 PM
I can't drink them. Even too many plain ol' pepsi colas are bad. If I drink two, the third one starts to taste poisonous to me. Very bitter and just all around BAD to put in your mouth, much less swallow. I have used pepsi sometimes to get me through in a pinch, but you pay for it triple on the other side. I know it souns like a joke, because people usually don't get much of a kick from a can of pepsi, but if you don't drink it regularly you do get quite a bit of a kick, enough to make it to the finish line, paperwork deadline, finish grooming one more dog, what have you. But you might be stuck in bed half a day the next day for payback, at least that is how my body reacts.
I work two nights a week on a very easy case. The mom wants me five days a week but I told her I can't do it because of health reasons. She trotted off to her medicine cabinet and showed me a bottle of Provigil, 200 mg. and told me it would be okay with her if I used that. I just laughed out loud in her face and said "NO WAY!!!!" and explained that I just have to work within my limits is all. I would LOVE it if I could just pop a pill and all my worries go away... If only it was that simple... it ain't, lemme tell ya.
 yna6

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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:58:39 PM
Ahh...the old "pepsi rush"....but an "energy drink" is NOT a pepsi. In fact, some do not have all that sugar!
Are you going to "pay for it" later? Probably...just like everyone else does! But, hey...on your time you are supposed to be resting up, and preparing for the next shift of making money for Corporate America anyways! Can't be going in all hung over or tired, etc. Doesn't matter what YOUR life entails....it is the JOB that counts! Right?
"Work within your limits"? Unheard of! Everyone MUST aspire to do their best at all times for the job! This is the LAW of the land! Do you think Employment (or unemployment) insurance is going to pick up the slack cause "you can't work a bit harder"? Sure...there IS limits...and they are well set out within their rules and regulations which sort out who can benefit and who can't! They even PAY doctors to make sure you ARE diagnosed as "fit and healthy" and therefore cannot qualify...even if common sense and other doctors say different!
OF course, those who fall short, and still cannot work as much as the employer wants soon find themselves searching out new jobs.

Nope...energy drinks ARE the answer....keep pushing them till "burn out" and then...maybe...you can actually be told by the system to "work within your limits"....until then....I dunno...


OK....all "tongue in cheek" aside. a friend of mine got to the point where she couldn't do a thing. Tired, all the time. Couldn't work. Couldn't concentrate to study. Nothing. A couple years of that. She got cured of it. Temporarily anyways. Last I heard she'd gone a bit nuts and was pensioned off. But daddy had to pay a good lawyer and a few doctors to get that for her. Most of us can't.
 justin_gf

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Posted: 11/2/2009 1:39:15 PM
Seek a therapist, but only if you're willing to do the work.

 afixerupper

Joined: 8/20/2009
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Posted: 11/2/2009 3:34:44 PM
chronic fatigue syndrome does push a sufferer into all the problems yna brought up, but not sure if he has a dog in the fight here, or just letting off some built up pressure from dealing with it himself, or knows someone who is dealing with it. From the sound of it he seems to have some close up knowledge, like the perp could only describe some things in the crime scene... LOL
 89*4L

Joined: 8/7/2009
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Posted: 11/2/2009 6:46:13 PM
how old are you?
 Fort Garry Dark

Joined: 11/25/2005
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Posted: 11/2/2009 6:53:28 PM

how old are you?


If you click on a person's profile it'll tell you what they claim.

I think its pretty good news that the may have identified a biological cause for CFS syndrome. Maybe they can identify a cure now.
 itechman63

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Posted: 11/2/2009 7:43:19 PM
It took 14 posts and none since to say it... GO SEE YOUR DOCTOR! Fatigue and Depression can be a symptom of limitless serious conditions... almost every serious condition. If your doctor runs the tests and finds that you just need diet adjustments, exercise, sunlight, and/or a hobby then you're doing great. If they're symptoms of a serious condition, you can get treatment and possibly even have diagnosed something in early enough stages to control/conquer.
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