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 TimPommell

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/5/2009 1:36:30 PM

WASHINGTON – Two Democratic officials say President-elect Barack Obama has chosen former Clinton White House chief of staff Leon Panetta to run the CIA. Panetta was a surprise pick for the post, with no experience in the intelligence world. An Obama transition official and another Democrat disclosed his nomination on a condition of anonymity since it was not yet public.

Panetta was director of the Office of Management and Budget and a longtime congressman from California.

He served on the Iraq Study Group, a bipartisan panel that released a report at the end of 2006 with dozens of recommendations for the reversing course in the Iraq war.

Panetta currently directs with his wife Sylvia the Leon & Sylvia Panetta Institute for Public Policy, based at California State University, Monterey Bay a university he helped establish on the site of the former U.S. Army base, Fort Ord.

This is beginning to look a lot like 1993... All we need now is a real estate scandal to follow Obama into the White House and... ooops nevermind....
 CharlesEdm

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/5/2009 4:22:25 PM

This is beginning to look a lot like 1993... All we need now is a real estate scandal to follow Obama into the White House and... ooops nevermind....


Whats he under investigation for?
 dmotz

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/5/2009 6:09:49 PM
Even the left wing is complaining about this choice...Ol Leon has no experience in this area...but hey...the obama picked him so he has to be the best for the job...better ask the head of the demmo intelligence committee...Ol Diane Feinstien even thinks it is a bad choice...but hey...what does she know...right?
 Hawaiianluau

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/5/2009 7:14:52 PM
I'm still waiting for a bit of change and all I'm seeing are the same old faces and corruption at every turn.
I heard this story at the same time as Richardson's.
 CharlesEdm

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/5/2009 10:14:42 PM
I heard this story at the same time as Richardson's.


That doesn't even make sense. Unless you're claiming Panetta is withdrawing herself from consideration.

I don't like this pick particularily, it strikes me as rather Bush like, he was famous for picking people for their political stances rather than their qualifications.
 Hawaiianluau

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Posted: 1/6/2009 12:06:20 AM
The new Richardson story was in reference to corruption.
Both are faces that I got tired of seeing years ago.
If Madaline Albright becomes part of this administration I'm going to burn my TV.
Take the 'change' into my own hands.
 TimPommell

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/6/2009 4:27:08 AM
Whats he under investigation for?

The Resko scandal.... Actually I didn't think it was all that big of a deal, a wealthy "friend" doing a favor for a not so wealthy friend, and then it turns out after the lot disection, Obama was instrumental in Resko getting millions in gov't contracts...

I actually don't have an issue with anyone Obama picks, as President it's his perogative to surround himself with a Cabinet that will do things his way. I just think its ironic that he pushed change so hard and then seems to have signed up every Democratic Washington insider from the Clinton Administration that is still alive and not in prison!
 CharlesEdm

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Posted: 1/6/2009 5:47:45 AM

The new Richardson story was in reference to corruption.


and this has to do with Panetta how?

Also Richardson never even made it into his position, and it's yet to be seen if he is even guilty.
 TimPommell

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/6/2009 9:02:46 AM
Can you say "obtuse"?

Panetta is just another tired Washington insider face. This is the same game Clinton played and we all know Panetta was a representative since the first year of the Carter Administration all the way up till he went to work for Clinton. A guy leaves DC for a year and when he shows back up suddenly he's "new" and "fresh" and represents "change". Give me a break....

Richardson, probably a pretty good guy certainly seems to have a good "game face" and considering all the good he's done, it would be a crying shame for his record to be tarnished over something as idiotic as this. Then again, Clinton tarnished his name over something a lot dumber and just as avoidable.
 Hawaiianluau

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/6/2009 9:59:51 AM
I understand folks not seeing the point of my posts not being as articulate as the chosen few.
Maybe a list would help.
Biden
Clinton
Richardson
Panetta
I know there are more but am not one to go reasearching.
Just hypothetically throw Madaline Albright in there to break the camel's back
and this orgasmic dream of change is turning into more like a recurring nightmare.

Of course he's leaving Bush's war guy in there as a scape goat through all this.
That's really intellegent no sarcasm intended.
 ChinaShopBull

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/6/2009 10:12:32 AM
I wonder if we'll see a resurgence of murdering eccentric right-wingers (and their families) in their homes, under Obama's administration? Who's going to get the FBI and BATF jobs?
 TimPommell

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/6/2009 1:46:28 PM


Feinstein Furious Over Panetta Pick

Monday, January 5, 2009 7:22 PM

Sen. Diane Feinstein is reportedly fuming that Barack Obama picked Leon Panetta as his new CIA Director and never consulted with her.

Feinstein, the incoming chairwoman of the Senate intelligence committee, issued a sharp statement Monday that was a thinly veiled criticism of the pick. The statement made it clear that she had expected a career intelligence professional – unlike Panetta, who has no intelligence expertise whatsoever – to be leading the CIA.

"I was not informed about the selection of Leon Panetta to be the CIA Director,’’ Feinstein said.


“I know nothing about this, other than what I've read," said Senator Feinstein, who will chair the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in the 111th Congress. "My position has consistently been that I believe the agency is best served by having an intelligence professional in charge at this time."


Panetta could face tough questions at his nomination hearing about his background in intelligence.


A former senior CIA official who advises Obama defended the surprise choice of Panetta, whose only military and intelligence experience is a two-year stint in the mid-1960s as a U.S. Army lieutenant.


The official told the Associated Press that Panetta had been a consumer of CIA intelligence when he was at the White House.


The source said Panetta was selected for his administrative, management and political skills that will allow him both to control and advocate for the agency.


The official added that Panetta will rely on the expertise of CIA officers to balance his lack of personal intelligence experience.

Veterans of the CIA were caught off guard by the selection.

"I'm at a loss," said Robert Grenier, a former director of the CIA's counterterrorism center and 27-year veteran of the agency who now is managing director of Kroll, a security consulting company.


The lack of intelligence experience puts Panetta at "a tremendous disadvantage," Grenier told The Associated Press in an interview.

"Intelligence, by its very nature, is an esoteric world. And right now the agency is confronted with numerous pressing challenges overseas, and to have no background is a serious deficit. I don't say that he can't succeed. It may be that he can compensate for the obvious deficit."


Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., ranking member of the committee, raised the specter of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 in questioning Panetta's experience after reports surfaced that Obama had tapped the former congressman and White House chief of staff to head the CIA.


“Job number one at the CIA is to track down and stop terrorists," Bond said in a statement reported by The Hill Web site. "In a post-9-11 world, intelligence experience would seem to be a prerequisite for the job of CIA Director."


Bond said that he will refrain from judging Panetta immediately, but he warned Obama and Panetta that he "will be looking hard at Panetta’s intelligence expertise and qualifications.”

This better than reality TV!
 dmotz

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/6/2009 4:25:21 PM

I wonder if we'll see a resurgence of murdering eccentric right-wingers (and their families) in their homes, under Obama's administration? Who's going to get the FBI and BATF jobs?


I know the post above must be a joke right? Can you say Janet Reno? Can you say slick willy and Waco? The jack-booted thugs left the building along with Clinton...but since the obama has revamped the Clinton admin...I would not be surprised to see the return of such tactics...
 ChinaShopBull

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/6/2009 7:30:21 PM
^^^No joke, if this turns into another Clinton administration, this is a real possibility. I hope it doesn't happen though. I hope the Obama administration doesn't start lobbing missiles into unconfirmed terrorist targets and then high-fiving each other for being real hard asses on TV, while the terrorists (who weren't even there) are just pissed off and stirred to extreme action... Like taking out the WTC.
 CountIbli

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/6/2009 9:15:41 PM

“Job number one at the CIA is to track down and stop terrorists," Bond said in a statement reported by The Hill Web site. "In a post-9-11 world, intelligence experience would seem to be a prerequisite for the job of CIA Director."


In a pre-9/11 world, the experts in intelligence totally failed. In the post-9/11 world these same experts told Bush whatever he wanted to hear. Can a newbie really do any worse? Just to be clear, I'm not pro-Panetta, but if Feinstein thinks he's a bad choice then I hope he gets the position.
 TimPommell

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/7/2009 4:21:46 AM
I find humor in the Administration naming Panetta without even consulting with the Chairman of the Intelligence Committee...

Personally I see it as a positive sign, not the actual selection, but rather the "I don't need your approval" approach Obama seems to have taken. It will end up crushing him politically, especially since he's previously picked moderates rather than uber liberals to fill his cabinet posts.

Other than Obama's address, does anyone see "change"?
 Ready4SomethingFun

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Posted: 1/7/2009 6:12:22 AM

Other than Obama's address, does anyone see "change"?


Not yet, but I foresee change in my pocket where dollar bills used to be.
 EarlzP

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Obama taps another Clintonite - Panetta as Head of CIA...
Posted: 1/7/2009 8:43:45 AM

Other than Obama's address, does anyone see "change"?


This is what I see, a fairly new politician who knew how to pick his campaign staff and was able to mobilize a campaign and a country enough to be voted in as the 44th president of the USA.

Since he is the President elect and will soon take office why not wait and see what he does and how he does it, I do not understand all of his choices but then I don’t know what his selection process focuses on.

We gave Bush and company 8 years maybe we should give Obama eight months to see if he can deliver, I think he will
 cotter

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Posted: 1/8/2009 8:10:47 PM


Other than Obama's address, does anyone see "change"?

Not yet, but I foresee change in my pocket where dollar bills used to be.
I'm curious ... where are all the "Republicans" finding money right now that they don't expect to have later? I've never been so poor as when the Republicans are in office.

Hmmm ... I guess whenever a Republican is in office, I need to register as a Republican ... so I'll have all that money too?

After OBAMA appointed that Zionist as Chief of Staff ... I stopped paying attention to who has been appointed to what position. At this point, I could care less who OBAMA appoints to work for him. I just want whoever it is to get the job done.
 cpfstock

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Posted: 1/12/2009 6:19:43 PM
But it's change!
 skoochie

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Posted: 1/13/2009 3:14:44 PM
A president's Chief of Staff has no experience in foreign policy? Wow. Some people will say anything.

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