| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/4/2009 8:40:30 AM | Customers will be able to choose from Windows 7 Starter Edition, Windows 7 Home Basic Edition, Windows 7 Home Premium Edition, Windows 7 Professional Edition, Windows 7 Ultimate Edition, and Windows 7 Enterprise Edition.
Windows 7 Starter Market: Worldwide availability this time but with new PCs only Key features: Enhanced taskbar, Jump Lists, Windows Media Player, Backup and Restore, Action Center, Device Stage, Play To, Fax and Scan, basic games What's missing: Aero Glass, many Aero desktop enhancements, Windows Touch, Media Center, Live thumbnail previews, Home Group creation
This version will only be sold through PC makers to users, but unlike with Vista, it will be sold worldwide. This suggests that netbook makers will choose this version, even in the US. As with previous Windows Starter Edition products, it is limited in some ways: You can run only three applications at once, don't get Windows 7's full mobility capabilities, and can participate in but not create a Home Group. Also, there's no Aero Glass.
Windows 7 Home Basic Key features: unlimited applications, live thumbnail previews and enhanced visual experience, advanced networking support (ad-hoc wireless networks and Internet connection sharing), and Mobility Center
Windows 7 Home Premium Market: Mainstream retail market Key features: Aero Glass, Aero Background, Windows Touch, Home Group creation, Media Center, DVD playback and authoring, premium games What's missing: Domain join, Remote Desktop host, advanced backup, EFS, Mobility Center, Offline Folders
The volume Windows 7 offering for consumers builds on Starter and includes Mobility Center, Aero Glass, advanced windows navigation features like Aero Snap and Aero Peek, and multi-touch, as well as the ability to both create and participate in Home Groups. Home Premium will be sold at retail and be included with new computers.
Windows 7 Professional Market: Mainstream retail market Key features: Domain join, Remote Desktop host, location aware printing, EFS, Mobility Center, Presentation Mode, Offline Folders What's missing: BitLocker, BitLocker To Go, AppLocker, Direct Access, Branche Cache, MUI language packs, boot from VHD
This volume Windows 7 version builds on Home Premium and adds features like domain join, Group Policy (GP) controls, location aware printing, advanced backup, EFS, and offline folders. Pro will be sold at retail and be included with new computers
Windows 7 Enterprise Market: Volume-license business customers only Key features: BitLocker, BitLocker To Go, AppLocker, Direct Access, Branche Cache, MUI language packs, boot from VHD What's missing: Retail licensing
As before, Enterprise is aimed at Microsoft's Software Assurance (SA) volume license customers. This time, however, Enterprise is a superset of Professional and adds much-heralded Windows 7 features like Direct Access, Branch Cache, BitLocker, and BitLocker To Go.
Windows 7 Ultimate Market: Retail market, limited availability Key features: BitLocker, BitLocker To Go, AppLocker, Direct Access, Branche Cache, MUI language packs, boot from VHD What's missing: Volume licensing | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/4/2009 9:59:07 AM | Thanks for taking the time to give the info, not going to rush out and get it, might wait for the first service pack and possibly get a much faster PC at the same time
noted that people want to wipe the thread
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/4/2009 12:44:19 PM | You are correct in regard to retail consumers. I should have been more clear.
The two *SKU (shelf keeping units) are what most consumers will see. The other four will not be available for most consumers.
Each version will be available in either a 32-bit or 64-bit version except for Windows 7 Starter.
1. Windows 7 Starter Market: Worldwide availability this time but with new PCs only This version will only be sold through PC makers to users ...... Not available as retail or 64-bit. For price-sensitive customers with small notebook PCs, some OEMs (ex: HP, Dell, etc) will offer Windows 7 Starter
2. Windows 7 Home Basic (Basically the equivalent of Vista's Media Center edition) Home Basic will be sold only to emerging markets. There are over a hundred but think South America, Africa, the Middle East, and island nations.
3. Windows 7 Home Premium* Market: Mainstream retail market Home Premium will be sold at retail and be included with new computers. Will have all the visual goodies of Windows 7 like the Aero Glass UI and the advanced window navigation. Besides touchscreen implementations (handwriting recognition, multitouch), the Home Premium edition also brings improved media format support and enhancements to Windows Media Center and media streaming.
4. Windows 7 Professional* Market: Mainstream retail market Pro will be sold at retail and be included with new computers Will have more security and networking features like the Encrypting File System, advanced network backup and joining managed networks with Domain Join. Also, the Pro version supports location-aware printing.
5. Windows 7 Enterprise Market: Volume-license business customers only Only mid- and large-sized businesses that have a Software Assurance Agreement with Microsoft.
6. Windows 7 Ultimate Market: Retail market, limited availability Will bring a similar set of advanced features like bitLocker data protection for internal and external drives, DirectAccess for corporate networking based on Windows Server 2008 R2, and will lock unauthorized software from running with AppLocker. Will probably not see Windows 7 Ultimate in retail for a while and only be available through the update process
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/4/2009 9:15:16 PM |
FYI, there is no word yet when Vista will be discontinued
I can give you the reality answer in that one - "Not soon enough"
Okay - snarky comments aside. I have test run Win7 on my new, very fast work laptop, ASUS eeePC 900, and a mid range 4 year old "media center" laptop. On all three - same results. Not *quite* as fast as WinXP in tests to open documents, move file sets, and other repeatable, measurable everyday tasks, and a couple graphics intense games. But - in each case - faster than Vista on same hardware.
I did have some problems with drivers on the media center Laptop (wireless and sound) but the other two ran as expected. Note, this is still a beta product - so there was certainly room left for tweaking. I would in no way recommend this for home or work use at this point - however - it does look much more promising than Vista did and does. 
FWIW - my 'normal' day to day business and home use - I use RedHat and Ubuntu Linux. So no - not a WinFanBoy, and no - will not do a Linux/Win7 comparison. For my use - that would be apples to oranges.
There is a current problem with the Authentication modules in Win7 - and hoping they don't do the 'head in the sand' approach with it, and actually fix it.
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/4/2009 9:36:55 PM | OR...................
You could pay $0 for Linux (32 or 64 bit). You could pay $129 for Mac OS X (which is BOTH 32 AND 64 bit, full-fledged UNIX).
No brainer, really. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/6/2009 2:27:17 PM | First of all, I hate the fact that most people hate Windows Vista. I have nothing against it and currently using it. If you have a fast computer and know how to properly tune your computer to the max, then Vista is very good. I will however say that it does use a bit more memory compared with Windows XP and you will only find this in high graphical applications and games, such as, Age of Conan.
In other news, I think that Microsoft is not making a good strategy by having 6 different versions of Windows 7. There should only be 2 to 4 different versions, because it's simple, yet advanced for people that want more features or for small businesses/enterprises. For instance, 2 versions for consumers and 2 versions for companies.
I also think that they should change the name to something that stands out more. I mean, I can see why they named it "Windows 7" which is a pretty good strategy to inform consumers that its number 7 and to also try and take Apple's target market, but the name could still be improved. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/6/2009 10:22:16 PM | Been running the Win 7 Ultimate 32-bit beta for a while on my backup computer... remarkably stable for a beta. Found all my hardware right away, and so far, all of my software that I added is working. When the next beta comes out this summer, I'll try the 64-bit (the processor is an Athlon 64 X2 so no worries there).
In release, I would definitely use Win 7 Pro instead of Ultimate... I'm considering a dual OS though... Linux/Win 7 combo, because I have some apps that have no Linux version. But I'll worry about that in 2010. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/7/2009 1:27:48 AM | | I think you made a mistake. Windows start edition is only going to be for developing nations. i think most people are going to get home premium 64 bit. As it allows people to use the features they normally use and have loads of RAM! | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/7/2009 2:58:20 AM | | I don't think that many people is going to buy windows 7. Especially with the recession how many people are going to upgrade? | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/7/2009 7:36:17 AM | vista is working fine for me, friend has the beta and he loves linux usually, seems win7 runs lots more stuff in the background just in case it might be needed
if wanted win 7 would probably get a new pc and keep this one, but have something like 8-16 GB ram instead of 4 GB and a lot more hard drive space, only got 1 TB and keeps getting too full :) | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/7/2009 12:59:25 PM | The system requirements for Windows 7 are about the same as the ones for XP, for it to run 'OK'. You wont need to go out and buy a new pc lol. try out the beta version for yourself here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd353205.aspx
i have it running on my 2nd hdd and it runs verry nice! and thats off a 4200rpm hdd lol. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/7/2009 5:26:49 PM | | My sound doesn't work on windows 7. I'm using fedora 11 alpha 1 right now and it's doing great. I am not going to go out to buy a sound card just to run windows 7. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/8/2009 2:26:38 PM | | speaking of Linux, am I the only one who thinks the windows 7 interface looks suspiciously like KDE? | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/8/2009 7:38:56 PM | windows 7 looks like kDE ? hahaaa you watched that australian movie didnt you?
i guess this time win 7 should be able to force windows user to upgrade. they argue it is light they even target win 7 for netbooks. oh well .. see what happen . i hate microsoft when its stuff only cares about GUI GUI GUI. they just try to excite end user . visual studio 201o has a lot improvement i guess but that can still be run on xp ? i will not switch to win 7 yet until they release service pack two of it maybe? hehehe | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/10/2009 3:49:46 PM |
First of all, I hate the fact that most people hate Windows Vista. I have nothing against it and currently using it. If you have a fast computer and know how to properly tune your computer to the max, then Vista is ... ... still going to have worse performance than using anything else. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/10/2009 5:13:44 PM | | You can have a super fast pc Vista is still going to be slower then Windows 7 and the main reason is because Windows Vista was bloated and missed programmed in areas that no amount of service packs are going to fix it. This is where Windows 7 comes in. Windows 7 is what Windows Vista should have been because Windows 7 fixed a lot of the issues that Windows Vista had problems in. With that said Windows XP is still going to be hanging around for a while after Windows 7, because Windows XP will have to be ran on netbooks still. Not to mention there are still a lot of programs out there that many people still use that won't be compatible with Windows 7 considering it uses the same 6.x kernal structure that Vista does. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/11/2009 7:44:34 PM | Obviously none of you that have posted to this thread are aware of the major bugs that are in winblows 7. My company and I have done extensive testing of beta 7 and have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is very very very unstable under business conditions and can not and will not ever be stable enough to run game platforms to the standards that are being reached in today's market. This is going to be another bust for Microsoft and just to back up what I have just said, during our testing we had 3 brand new hard drives burn out and the OS crashed 63 times in a 2 month period where we could not recover one single bite of data from the drives due to the damaged sectors being unreadable and only reformatting the drives was the option. We threw every recovery option we had at the drives and nothing. Just to tell you all DON'T GET THIS until service pack 2 comes out. If you do then your going to be out a whole lot of money.
By the way, everything was tested by Microsoft Certified Techs | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/11/2009 10:10:07 PM | So you take your experience as an example and act like all pc's running Windows 7 will be is like yours? Not to mention you just assume that no one on here has run what you have ran with Windows 7. Furthermore Windows 7 is still in Beta, it's not even an RC yet. So obv there is still some work to be done before it goes gold.
I ran hardcore games on my pc using windows 7 beta like Crysis for example and it seems to be working fine with my system with beta graphics drivers installed. I Must have gotten a fluke Windows 7 beta version I suppose. I guess i'm not the only one with the fluke version, seems like toms hardware must have gotten it too and so did xbit labs and Anantech and CNET as well. 
Oh as for your hard drives burning out due to bad sectors, that has nothing to do with the Software causing it.
Prominent causes of Physical Sector Damage
A majority of the sector damages are attributed to improper physical conditions. Physically perturbed sector may substantially abate the efficiency of the hard drive. Let us have an insight to some of the most common physical disturbances:
Physical alterations on the surface of hard drive are mainly caused by the continuous back and forth movement of head along the platters of the disk. This movement severely fragments the disk attenuating its working capacity. This phenomenon is termed as “Head Bounce”.
Another major factor responsible for disk fragmentation is “Media Degradation”, according to which prolonged use of disk actually resulted into deterioration in quality of its media. The material of the disk no longer remains apt for the further usage and gets defunct within a short span.
Improper handling and placement is also one of the factors contributing to sector damage. Users generally get careless in handling the disks and let there hard drives exposed to external particles like dust. This exposure diminishes the quality of media to a greater extent making it unsuitable for further usage.
One big reason for physical sector damage is “heat”. Due to extended contact between head and the drive, heat is generated due to friction. As hard drives are extremely heat sensitive, they tend to get damaged over a period of
time.http://www.abkdata.com/physical-sector-damage.html
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/12/2009 3:47:51 AM |
First of all, I hate the fact that most people hate Windows Vista. I have nothing against it and currently using it. If you have a fast computer and know how to properly tune your computer to the max, then Vista is very good. I will however say that it does use a bit more memory compared with Windows XP and you will only find this in high graphical applications and games, such as, Age of Conan.
In other news, I think that Microsoft is not making a good strategy by having 6 different versions of Windows 7. There should only be 2 to 4 different versions, because it's simple, yet advanced for people that want more features or for small businesses/enterprises. For instance, 2 versions for consumers and 2 versions for companies.
I also think that they should change the name to something that stands out more. I mean, I can see why they named it "Windows 7" which is a pretty good strategy to inform consumers that its number 7 and to also try and take Apple's target market, but the name could still be improved.
Well for the basic user it may seem like not being a problem. But for us Technicians Vista is a nightmare. My suggestion is to go fix about ten Vista machines with software related issues and then we'll see how much you like Vista. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/12/2009 6:19:16 AM |
will not ever be stable enough to run game platforms to the standards that are being reached in today's market Not so long ago someone high up at MS said (I'm paraphrasing a little) -
'You can't fix all the bugs in a PC game, Windows is too complicated for a game to handle every possible problem. Just fix the majority problems, it isn't worth the cost of trying to fix them all.'
Most PC games have lots of code to deal with stuff that should work but dosen't and no way to find out why. All you can do is put up a message suggesting new drivers or looking for a patch. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/13/2009 7:32:24 AM | interesting. we've been running Win7 beta for a while now as we had a very high end video app that the client wanted to use it for.
seems pretty stable to us.
personally I'll stick with XP at home till I upgrade to a new PC, then I'll make the move to 7.
I've run Vista for client jobs and always seems OK to me. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/13/2009 5:13:55 PM |
interesting. we've been running Win7 beta for a while now as we had a very high end video app that the client wanted to use it for.
seems pretty stable to us. No doubt, it depends what this video app does and how it works. You may find after a few hardware changes this dosen't apply. I guess the company who makes this app keep 'upgrading' to follow as MS changes things. Lots of programs broke when Vista came out, lots broke when XP came out too.
Direct X actually has a generic fail return code, which simply means some unspecified thing went wrong while the game is running. There is no way to resolve it. MS docs suggests you tell the user and close the program. Mostly it's caused by drivers, though MS seem happy to change things with no thought to consequences for the user.
That said, I doubt 7 will differ from XP much in this respect. The only differences would be driver issues caused by a new driver model and fewer system resources for a game. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/16/2009 9:17:53 AM | hey I'm always leary about platform changes but I had the time this weekend and did the beta upgrade to Win7 from XP.
I'm running an ASUS clone dual core box with an NVidia video card and I have to say it went seamlessly. everything that was on the box (which is a pretty fair amount of stuff) seemed to work, though I must admit I didn't have time to try every app.
even managed to keep my virtual port/printer setup.
actually seemed to run a little better. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/16/2009 8:32:03 PM | The only way I will use Windows 7 is if it's free.
I don't mind spending $300 on a new operating system -- but I wouldn't pay that much for anything Microsoft makes. | |
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| Windows 7 to come in 6 editions Posted: 2/17/2009 7:41:39 PM |
"A few days' testing of Windows 7 has already disclosed some draconian DRM, some of it unrelated to media files. A legitimate copy of Photoshop CS4 stopped functioning after we clobbered a nagging registration screen by replacing a DLL with a hacked version. With regard to media files, the days of capturing an audio program on your PC seem to be over (if the program originated on that PC). The inputs of your sound card are severely degraded in software if the card is also playing an audio program (tested here with Grooveshark). This may be the tip of the iceberg. Being in bed with the RIAA is bad enough, but locking your own files away from you is a tactic so outrageous it may kill the OS for many persons. Many users will not want to experiment with a second sound card or computer just to record from online sources, or boot up under a Linux that supports ntfs-3g just to control their files."
Re — Photoshop: That Photoshop stopped functioning after we messed with one of its nag DLLs was not so much a surprise, but what was a surprise: Noting that Win7 allows programs like Photoshop to insert themselves stealthily into your firewall exception list. Further, that the OS allows large software vendors to penetrate your machine. Even further, that that permission is responsible for disabling of a program based on a modified DLL. And then finding that the OS even after reboot has locked you out of your own Local Settings folder; has denied you permission to move or delete the modified DLL; and refuses to allow the replacement of the Local Settings folder after it is unlocked with Unlocker to move it to the Desktop for examination (where it also denies you entry to your own folder). Setting permissions to 'allow everyone' was disabled!
Re — media: Under XP you could select 'Stereo Mix' or similar under audio recording inputs and nicely capture any program then playing. No longer.
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid ... 16/2259257
Not good news for many pc users. I guess I will be sticking with Windows XP then a bit longer. | |
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