| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/19/2009 2:02:35 PM | Seriously, I want to know where the money for my gas is in the stimulus package.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
I'm sure this lady got hers, she scratched the Big 0's back. If I stop paying my mortgage, do I get a handout? Why is it that community organization warrants 4 billion, but I still have to pay for gas. I voted for Hope-where is it? Or is economic fearmongering all we can expect from Barack Obush? | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/19/2009 2:22:01 PM | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUovpF9LWU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us
Hannity plays your clip everyday...
He could only find one ignorate Obama supporter?
How about the loyal GOP Republicians in these clips?
$2 billion "for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes as authorized under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008."
This is not
Why is it that community organization warrants 4 billion
How about the lie
$30 million to protect the salt marsh harvest mouse in San Francisco.
A lie ............... Never in the bill............ Repeated every day Hannity. Fearmonger
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/19/2009 9:47:51 PM | I can't believe there are actually people making it okay out there who might be jealous of someone who needs help ... or would be so bold as to imply they are willing to deny someone the help they need. Simply unbelievable.
Did you ever stop to think that some of us might be just getting by ourselves and if we get hit we with major tax increases we might be in the same boat as those we are supposedly helping?
Then we see others who would deny help to those who are losing everything they own (through no fault of theirs) ... it's just unbelievable.
Those who truly through no fault of their own who are in trouble, deserve help. Those who overextended themselves due to greed (and that includes folks like the CEO's) deserve what they get. If John Smith knew he couldn't afford a 200,000 house and took a loan for it anyway, he deserves to lose it, that's just stupidity on his part. He deserves an apartment voucher and nothing more. Those that should be punished are those who allowed him to make that loan, starting with Fannie Mae and Freedie Mac.
Gee I hope no one ever needs to truly depend on them for anything ... much less love. The good part about it ... all their forum posts are truly telling the whole site all about them.
No doubt with a little help from the left, who paint us to be these heartless bast**ds when all we really want is people to start taking personal responsibility for their lives. I have enough people who depend on me in this world, I can't take on anymore. Sorry, it's not my job to care for the world. And before you single out this one sentence to continue to paint a bleak picture of conservatives, I help plenty of people in my own community. Those who do deserve that help, not those who leech off the taxpayer dollar.
And to the OP:
Don't worry, soon enough Obama will figure out a way to pay for your gas and mortage. In fact if you read the news, he is enacting a 75 billion (which in actuality is closer to $200 billion) plan to pay for all those who took out loans they could never possibly pay for as I write this. I'm sure the gas rebate checks won't be too far behind. Unless ACORN needs another hand out to make sure he gets re-elected. | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/19/2009 9:57:36 PM |
Those who truly through no fault of their own who are in trouble, deserve help. Those who overextended themselves due to greed ... deserve what they get. I totally agree.
I have three friends (we're all nurses) and they have been laid off due to lower census ... they have no control over that. Fortunately, they were frugal and even though they have pretty much been out of work for the past three months, they are just now applying for unemployment because in about 3 or 4 weeks they will have no money left.
I have been helping them fill out the application for unemployment on line from my house and we are also using my fax as a central for faxing their resumé to various different facilities.
There just are no jobs out there and two of them have house payments ... the other rents and so one of the other ladies is probably going to have to take her in soon. As I mentioned before ... no one really can live on unemployment. | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/19/2009 10:00:59 PM | I'm telling you, they should head north. There is nothing up here BUT nursing positions. My newspaper's employment ads are virtually empty other than LPN, RPN and a bunch of other initials I have no clue about ( ). | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/19/2009 10:25:49 PM | ^^^^That's the reason my house is for sale and I'm already talking to employers up there. I'm hired as soon as I can get up there. One of the ladies is from Pennsylvania ... and she and her husband are getting ready to put their house on the market as well.
We may have to take a loss initially on the sale of our houses ... but we'll get it back fast when we get our jobs up north. I have no problem working 60+ hours per week. Even with regular pay ... they pay nurses 1/3 more up there than down here.
I'm struggling right now, but I do not want any handouts for anything. I just finished an IV Certification course and that's going to hopefully open a few more doors for me down here until I can get up north. | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/20/2009 4:12:59 AM |
much less love
WHATS LOVE GOT TO DO WITH IT?
The obama has been promising to save the failed economy...promising to help people keep their homes...
If he can save the economy by giving welfare to people....if he can let someone who NEVER should have bought a home in the first place...keep it...
Then we are all in trouble.
Those who are good ,decent and hardworking...who pay their bills every month..who do the right thing are going to suffer because of those who do not.
If a person actually needs the help...give it to them...everyone needs help from time to time...
But to help those who will not help themselves is going to cost us trillions.
Why give money to ACORN?
ON A SIDE NOTE...Cotter...best of luck to you...I hope you can get your home sold and head north...I know they are looking for nurses here in Utah as well...teachers to... | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/20/2009 12:29:48 PM | The problem again is that entire economy is in big trouble which affect negatively every single person, but the solutions offered are just too global. deal with just the numbers they see instead of dealing with every single person one by one.
Yes, if there are 100 million individual people who are in trouble now instead of "Big 3", AIG which are not physical person but ficticious persons AKA corporations then instead of taking care of businesses people should be taken care off. Virtually all of them can not be blamed for this crisis. It is not their fault how Bush run the country, it is not their fault that Greenspan being not in clear state of mind and over 85 was still the treasury secretary instead of being nicely offered to retire. But no, Bush's net worth won't suffer no matter what. He was giving a French kiss to Arab oil magnets and keeping Greenspan since these are people of "his circle" , while he is just a daddy's boy who made open-hearted Americans to like and believe him.
So, again it makes no sense that those who work in BIG 3 or in AIG or in Big Banking system should be "saved", but those who work in other places, and mostly small businesses should be left by themselves.
If someone is saving a GM employee keep his $8,000 job while he won't work, but will be in reserve, then who is saving me? This crisis was not my fault. My small business was doing very well before it hit, right now it's just hassling. Have to work twice as much for the same amount of money. I am considering to initiate online employment website since this service will be more popular, however it's just a venture, with again putting some money and lots of effort and it may be ok it may fail. Then let at least government pay ME a stimulus package directly for trying to help people to find work, that's what they want too right? NO, they look at the numbers on their skewed reports and just make "globalized decisions". The average guy or gal like in this youtube is for being inspired to vote for them. Nobody is gonna give a *(^&)&(& say if this woman dies or becomes homeless. In big corporations people are just a number on their computer screen, in government- they are just figures on their statistical economic trends and indicators.
So, except this overly encompassing, overly generalized solutions, government should find ways to have representatives in States, counties, cities who will accept applications for short and long term no interest loans for personals and businesses because again, this was NOT people's fault and Obama is just another president as Busshhhiie and he has a duty to be responsible for Busshies mistakes, be accountable against people for correcting it, and offer direct solutions too instead of "I am creating 3 mil jobs" in industry where nobody has every tried.
Like I said, 80% of jobs are created in Small Businesses but solutions are offered to Big businesses.
Also, nobody including government is here to solve anyone's problem, but they are responsible for correcting the problems they created. | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/20/2009 2:57:10 PM | ^^^ Not sure what that rant has to do with the topic of the thread ... 
OT ...
I have little or no sympathy for those who were earning over $40,000. or $50,000. per year and managed to put absolutely nothing aside for a "rainy day".
I saw something a couple weeks ago on Good Morning America ... they were highlighting a couple where the man had lost his job. It was a family of 4 and they were putting on this sob story. Now that the father had lost his job ... the "poor" family was going to have to make do with just the mother's salary ... $90,000.+
I thought I was gonna choke on my coffee. They proceeded to question the family about what it meant now that they would only have one income instead of two ... how they were going to start cutting corners. And the family was telling them that now they would not be able to eat out so much (they were all over-weight) and they also said that they would have to cut back on family outings ... movies and such. I believe I saw that the family vehicles were late model SUV's.
I was thinking to myself that it might be a shame if the kids would have to run off some of that fat perhaps mowing the lawn and cleaning the pool ... you know instead of hiring it to be done?
But the other thought that came to my mind ... what is truly considered the middle class? If I'm not making that much money, am I considered between middle and poverty? What is that ... "poor" class? Under $90,000. per year is that "poor" class? | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/20/2009 3:03:44 PM | Dmotz, Long time man, hows it going?
WHATS LOVE GOT TO DO WITH IT?
The obama has been promising to save the failed economy...promising to help people keep their homes...
If he can save the economy by giving welfare to people....if he can let someone who NEVER should have bought a home in the first place...keep it...
Then we are all in trouble.
Those who are good ,decent and hardworking...who pay their bills every month..who do the right thing are going to suffer because of those who do not.
If a person actually needs the help...give it to them...everyone needs help from time to time...
But to help those who will not help themselves is going to cost us trillions.
Why give money to ACORN?
C'mon man, are you seriously listening to Michelle Bachman (R) MI.??
Its amazing to me she managed to squeak through re-election and I can gaurantee she wont be so lucky next time around, lol.
There is Zero (0) stimulus money going directly to Acorn! They have a opportunity to apply for a share for specific neighborhood rebuilding projects the same way you or I also have the opportunity to apply.
Dont use simple logic, think outside the box, I bet alot more "Red Staters" will bennifit from the stimulous since the places where jobs were outsourced from seem to be largely from Red States.
If a Plant closes in NY, no one really notices, but if a plant closed in KS??? Hmmmmmm. | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/20/2009 3:22:15 PM |
Gee I hope no one ever needs to truly depend on them for anything ... much less love. WHATS LOVE GOT TO DO WITH IT?
I meant that as ruthless as those people seemed (IMO) I hope no one ever needed to depend on them for anything ... love included. I'd sure hate to be coupled up with someone that ruthless ... might as well live by yourself. Shucks that'd be like living with some sort of cold, ruthless snake. Someone who would be capable of denying people who have no control over the loss of their job? If a person has that little compassion for their fellow man ... YUK ... stay away from me!!!!
DMOTZ ... Thank you for your good wishes. It's one day at a time for me. I just seem to be putting in my time down here ... just waiting to get this house sold and get back up home. I have plenty of job offers up there but I refuse to abandon my home ... turn it over to the bugs or human home invaders. We have a lot of that down here ... people put their homes on the market and leave for somewhere else ... live in an apartment until the house sells, but don't realize that the homeless are moving into their house and trashing it in the meantime. Since it's so warm down here, they can pretty much live in it without electricity. Another thing I'm not going to do ... I'm not going to give it away either. 
OT ...
Still not taking any handouts for the gas money or the mortgage payment. | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/20/2009 8:07:17 PM |
Now that the father had lost his job ... the "poor" family was going to have to make do with just the mother's salary ... $90,000.+ I thought I was gonna choke on my coffee. They proceeded to question the family about what it meant now that they would only have one income instead of two ... how they were going to start cutting corners. And the family was telling them that now they would not be able to eat out so much (they were all over-weight) and they also said that they would have to cut back on family outings ... movies and such. I believe I saw that the family vehicles were late model SUV's. I was thinking to myself that it might be a shame if the kids would have to run off some of that fat perhaps mowing the lawn and cleaning the pool ... you know instead of hiring it to be done?
It's funny, I just read this a few minutes ago, but earlier today at work a co-worker and I were sort of discussing the exact same thing. I run a station in a fairly affluent suburb and every morning all the little rich kiddies come bebopping into the parking lot in their brand new Infinitys, SUVs and Acuras (doing 80 while texting their friends of course) to buy their morning stimulants (energy drinks---the future bodes well for the nursing industry with all this legal speed--the kiddies hearts will be failing before age 30 the way they abuse this stuff) and we began discussing what would happen if these kid's parents, who give them everything they want, could no longer afford to. We pretty much decided that there would be a massive wave of rich teen suicide in this less than humble little burg (and possibly country-wide). I guess those with a bit more stability in their lives may well survive the massive body slam back to the realities of life as many of us remember it back in the 70's and 80's, but I would unhappily wager that more than a few won't take it very well.
But the other thought that came to my mind ... what is truly considered the middle class? If I'm not making that much money, am I considered between middle and poverty? What is that ... "poor" class? Under $90,000. per year is that "poor" class?
Wasn't the line drawn at around 250 thousand, then reduced a few times to around 150 thousand being the ceiling of the middle class? Looking back I wonder how I survived making 19,000 not all that long ago and rasing three kids by myself. And I felt at the time I actually did pretty well, and took no handouts (except an occasional loan from family--which I always repayed promptly in case I might need to again). I guess that is why I am a bit frustrated at those who make twice what I do and still can't seem to keep themselves out of massive debt. It's because I know it can be done, not out of any jealousy or hardheartedness. I just wish I could rack up a few years of making 90,000 a year. I could work 3 years, take 5 off, and send my kids to college without a blink. | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/20/2009 8:48:05 PM | | here we go, reminds me Russia back to about 10-15 yrs ago when people were putting down all those who didn't confuse themselves, went for their goals, and could make a decent living. Obama is bringing the socialism to the USA I can see, just another example of going from one extreme- clown Bush who wanted to privatize Medicare and Social Sequirty (haven't heard more idiotic idea) to now Obama- building plants for future to "occupy" people while not having any even garage sales and minor swap meet business experiance except community organizing. Every nation deserves the ruler it has ----- "Winston Churchill". | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/20/2009 10:16:43 PM | bail outs are one thing...but what i want to know is why it costs a trillion bucks to "create" 4 million jobs. i mean, come on, do these morons think the american people are simply going to keep paying more and more while they spend spend spend out money?
i mean, how long before enough is enough?
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/20/2009 10:26:18 PM | cotter~
you have no sympathies for those who make 40 to 50K a year but dont save money...
i think it depends on which part of the country you live in....some people live so close to the edge that they can't afford to save money...and if you lived in los angeles you couldn't even afford to buy a home let alone an apartment on that sort of income...if you lived in new york or san francisco, well...you are pretty much broke...lol!
now for me... i have NO sympathies for people who never bothered to get an education, or learn a marketable job skill. I especially have NO sympathy for those that have had children without having a marketable job skill of some kind...
the bottom line is this: everyone is responsible for thier own condition in life regardless of the circumstances that they may have been born into. your life is your own, and NO ONE and i mean NO ONE is going to fill your lungs for you...period.
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/21/2009 4:23:36 AM |
bail outs are one thing...but what i want to know is why it costs a trillion bucks to "create" 4 million jobs. i mean, come on, do these morons think the american people are simply going to keep paying more and more while they spend spend spend our money?
Yes, they absolutely do. No questions asked either.
i mean, how long before enough is enough?
Until enough people get fed up and revolt against it (and remember it will only be about half the country, the other half seems to think this is the right way to do things). | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/21/2009 7:50:09 AM | Wassup Blacksheep...long time my friend.
This bailout package is only the beginning of what our liberal friends want. They want to control every aspect of our lives. They want to control the corporations...the housing markets..who gets what and when...
I am not liking the direction the obama is headed. Soon it will be another few trillion here and more over there.
To the liberal mind it is ok to put us even further down the hole...I thought the obama was going to fix the economy? It is looking like his so called fix will be a flop. Our kids and grandkids are going to be paying for the new socialism headed our way.
Everyone wants something for nothing...bottom line is simple...if you can not afford a house...do not buy one!
Barney Frank made sure the banks and mortgage companies gave out easy money to folks they knew could not make the payments...now the obama wants to help them keep something they could not afford in the first place...
This whole bailout is a sham and a way for the obama and the liberals to head into socialism... | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/21/2009 11:37:11 AM |
This bailout package is only the beginning of what our liberal friends want. They want to control every aspect of our lives. They want to control the corporations...the housing markets..who gets what and when...
I am not liking the direction the obama is headed. Soon it will be another few trillion here and more over there.
To the liberal mind it is ok to put us even further down the hole...I thought the obama was going to fix the economy? It is looking like his so called fix will be a flop. Our kids and grandkids are going to be paying for the new socialism headed our way.
Everyone wants something for nothing...bottom line is simple...if you can not afford a house...do not buy one!
Barney Frank made sure the banks and mortgage companies gave out easy money to folks they knew could not make the payments...now the obama wants to help them keep something they could not afford in the first place...
This whole bailout is a sham and a way for the obama and the liberals to head into socialism...
What's done is done it's too late to close the barn door now, so instead of dwelling on the past it's time to fine a solution for the future. President Obama is forward looking realizing that if he can refinance those mortgages the buyers may be able to make the lower payments, I don't consider that a give away that is just refinancing. Their is plenty of blame to pass around it was not just the liberals that were involved in the taking and making of these loans and some where some body got filthy rich if you want to find the culprit follow the money it's some where
What would you do with the thousands and thousands of homes going into foreclosure, let them sit until property values were at such a low level that the home owners who defaulted on their loans could have the capital to afford them at the much lower price? | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/21/2009 1:47:58 PM | I called my mortgage company today and just asked them a bunch of "What if" questions.
**What if I can't make my mortgage payment?
Answer ... then we send your loan over to "collections".
**How long do I have to be overdue before it goes to collections?
Answer ... One month.
**Can I talk to someone about getting some of the money that went out to the banks a few months ago ... you know that money that we have since found out they gave out by the millions in bonuses?
Answer ... No one qualifies for that money until they are delinquent.
So far ... and I haven't finished with them just yet, I'm finding that it appears that they are not even willing to discuss helping anyone with that money unless they have not one penny more to pay ... their savings is wiped out ... they are ready to go to the poor house, ready to be put out on the street.
I'm going to start making some calls on Monday and harangue them about who in my bank got that money ... where it is ... what it's being used for. I'm going to just let them know that I'm a tax payer and I want to know if any of the executives got any of that money. I want to see how far they'll let me get before they start hanging up on me or telling me they didn't get any money.
I know my bank was one of the banks that got money ... now I want to know how much and how soon they are going to make it available to people who might need it ... what it's going to be spent on. | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/22/2009 6:40:02 AM | Cotter....
The bank got the money and so did the executives...they are not going to cut it loose because they do not have to. This bailout was a joke and it will not have any oversight and will not be used for it's intended purpose.
The good hardworking people who have always paid their bills on time will be the ones to suffer, the folks who did not will reap the benefits.
Barney Frank is the one responsible for the housing troubles...obama can get all the money he wants from us taxpayers...and give it to anyone he wants...The banks on the other hand do not have to give it to anyone...
This is the beginning of the end of what was the US....socialism is on the way... | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/22/2009 8:17:38 AM |
The bank got the money and so did the executives...they are not going to cut it loose because they do not have to. This bailout was a joke and it will not have any oversight and will not be used for it's intended purpose.
The bailout handled by Bush and Paulson was handed out no strings attached ,President Obama’s administration is not going down that path
The good hardworking people who have always paid their bills on time will be the ones to suffer, the folks who did not will reap the benefits.
How are they going to suffer? You may not realize it but left alone this recession is going to effect just about every one it’s jut a matter of time, no job is safe that means eventually maybe even yours will be touched
Barney Frank is the one responsible for the housing troubles...
Right lets lay it on one person, we do not have a senate, a congress an administration they are all innocent none of them were involved and none of them could see this coming, what do you think?
obama can get all the money he wants from us taxpayers...and give it to anyone he wants...
Actually President Obama had to submit the stimulus package bill and have it approved which he did.
The banks on the other hand do not have to give it to anyone...
Actually President Obama administration wants accountability from the banks
This is the beginning of the end of what was the US....socialism is on the way...
To me this is the beginning of a time were the middle class has a President that takes there future seriously, we have a President who under stands that it the middle class wage earner that powers this countries economy. We have a president who is willing to reach out to give the middle class a hand up not a hand out, We have a president who is willing to negotiate to talk who understands what needs to be done and will do what ever he can to revive our economy | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/22/2009 8:24:06 AM | Its not Socislism, its more towards the centre than what it was, but not Socialism.
Good on them, more nectrist policies would do people good.
Hell the far right hasnt had much to crow about lately. | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/22/2009 1:45:37 PM |
The bank got the money and so did the executives...they are not going to cut it loose because they do not have to. This bailout was a joke and it will not have any oversight and will not be used for it's intended purpose. I'm not sure which bailout money you are referring to with that statement.
When I called the bank, the woman I spoke with referred to the first bailout money from November. And I do believe that the first bailout money did not have any oversight ... and will not be used for it's intended purpose. It's already gone ... in the form of bonuses to the CEO's!!!!! | |
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| Where is my gas money and mortgage payment?
Posted: 2/22/2009 4:31:52 PM |
Wassup Blacksheep...long time my friend.
This bailout package is only the beginning of what our liberal friends want. They want to control every aspect of our lives. They want to control the corporations...the housing markets..who gets what and when...
I am not liking the direction the obama is headed. Soon it will be another few trillion here and more over there.
To the liberal mind it is ok to put us even further down the hole...I thought the obama was going to fix the economy? It is looking like his so called fix will be a flop. Our kids and grandkids are going to be paying for the new socialism headed our way.
Everyone wants something for nothing...bottom line is simple...if you can not afford a house...do not buy one!
Barney Frank made sure the banks and mortgage companies gave out easy money to folks they knew could not make the payments...now the obama wants to help them keep something they could not afford in the first place...
This whole bailout is a sham and a way for the obama and the liberals to head into socialism...
The Republicans created an extraordinary deep financial hole among other things which will require equally extraordinary tactics to climb this country out of.
I dont believe this will hurt out children in the long run since something is bound to come out of this stimulus that will put America back on the map like the invention of the car and plane did all those years ago.
Perhaps the petroleum free car engine.
When we return to leading the world in righteousness the world will reward us by paying their money for our inventions and inginuity. | |
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