| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/7/2009 4:31:46 PM | I noticed the new button and came here to see what BC had to say and there is nothing here ?
I think it is absolutely hilarious that the man who was running around for years tooting his horn about being a "free" site has decided to take this step.
Flames to dust
Lovers to friends
Why do all good things come to an end?
And the answer is.......greed
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/7/2009 4:53:12 PM | | Well is anything ever truly free really. And if the site op want to make some money by adding a gold star for a price to your profile, so be it . There is no other site that I have found, that gives people so much access to one another without charging you like a wounded bull . Cheers its only money. BCbogbear | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/7/2009 4:57:55 PM | Thats not really the point, paying a few bucks isn't gonna hurt anyone if they feel they have to appear "serious" to get a date, the point is he advertises this......
"Remember that we are the largest 100% free online dating service, so you will never have to pay a dime to meet your soulmate."
I think someone should have told him to "never say never" LOL | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/7/2009 5:07:21 PM | | Just because someone pays a few bucks, doesn't automatically mean they are serious......it just means they have more money to waste than me.......geez, give me a break! | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/7/2009 5:24:06 PM |
"Remember that we are the largest 100% free online dating service, so you will never have to pay a dime to meet your soulmate."
What is says still holds true.
Besides, things change....we all know that.
I think it is a good idea. Perhaps it will upgrade the quality of the selections here.
And, one still has a choice.
I've had playing in the forums and meeting a couple of new friends here and there...I am grateful.
But it will be fun to see what happens.
MN | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/7/2009 5:29:06 PM | Smart Option for some Fishies here I think.
Not everyone is looking for 'Friends'... buddies to go camping with ....or bowling....dinner and dancing mates... some pple are truly here to find their Fish of their Dreams and looking for a serious long term relationship... perhaps this is a good way to weed thru the not so driven and focussed Fish and promote yourself the best ways you can. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/7/2009 8:27:03 PM | I suppose if I were serious about finding my sole mate here I would upgrade.
I have a feeling this is going to become a tiered system. I remember reading that POF with eventually morph into a pay dating site.
I suppose it is a way to get rid of bottom feeders and stupid profiles. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/7/2009 10:43:09 PM | | I personally think it's a sad day that all us fishies now need to pay to be at the head of the line to "find a hook" worthy of hanging on to. There is certainly no lack of financial advantage to date on this site - all the advertisement pays to be here - just like on tv. This is just like upgrading to satellite (or pay tv if you must). I believe the selection will not improve, but actually deterioate - have you people not taken note of who is, and is not, on the paid for sites. Lower the flags to half mast. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 12:39:07 AM | Soft Spurs you hit the nail on the head....
I believe the selection will not improve, but actually deterioate - have you people not taken note of who is, and is not, on the paid for sites. Lower the flags to half mast.
and OP while BC may not be openly discussing it, most are flagged, tagged and zapped quicker than Harry Potter can find his wand...
one guy earlier said he emailed a chick and she emailed him back that he was not a 'serious' member and not worth her time.... she paid, he didn't.
economy, recessions, priorities over a gold or yellow seal of approval....hhmmmm
waiting how long before this one is nixed too.... | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 7:09:52 AM | (Sarcastically) The beginning of the POF 2 tiered system...
The competition and segregation between the haves and the have-nots.
Sure, I am one of the fortunate ones who could afford to pay and become a "Serious" member, but I have to ask, why should I.
If I am going to pay to join a dating site, should it be for this one?
One of two things are going to happen, this will slooowllyyy become a paid site, having free members usage options being taken away bit by bit.
OR, this whole thing will die because of lack of interest in purchasing of this new "option", just like the $30.00 virtual rose that died on the vine....
Let's hope it it's the latter....
Jmho
*****IMPORTANT EDIT***** Please everyone!!!! go to this link
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts11916896.aspx
and utilize the VOTE button that Marcus has provided and also post your opinion on this new "option".
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 8:31:14 AM | Ooooh yeah - someone who'll fork over SIX WHOLE DOLLARS a month is clearly way more serious than all those freeloaders 
There's 24 pages of people mostly explaining why this is a Very Bad Idea already.
I wonder if this means that the 'non-serious' members will no longer appear in the 'serious' members searches. After, all, they're second-class lowlifes, I guess.
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 8:57:34 AM | Like many things in life, what seems and apperars to be free, has a time limit to it, which we are not told about right away when we first begin.
After the time limit has expired, then time to pay up.
And ya have to buy, if you want to keep using that software.
It is promotional of business, and software is the same, ya can get a time limit trial bases, to try out for free, to see if you like it, and if you do, after the time limit expires, then you gonna have to sum up the money.
Some web sites if not all of them, are a try for free time limit bases.
Therefore, the owner of this web site, have given us the pleasure of using his site for free, for such a long time.
And by the owner using these buttons of who is serious about finding someone, is a form of benchmark, that they can use to decide if he is maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe, going to charge us to use his website.
Yuppers, welcome to the new world of business, free of charge, for a time limit, trial bases, then you pay. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 9:34:37 AM | | Seriously,wow, seriously! People are going to pay money for gold stars. I think there should be more benefits to being a serious member than a gold star. The people who become "serious" members are in a sense communicating that they waste money. Am I missing something? Do you get more than a stamp for paying? | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 10:31:25 AM |
finding my sole mate here
I hope she finds her other shoe. 
Let me get this straight. If a user pays they get a gold seal on their profile that indicates them to be a "Serious Member".
So are we to understand those unwilling to pay these rates are not to be considered "serious members"?
Many are now facing lean times, tightening their belts and cannot justify the luxury of a paid membership in a dating site. When I view a profile that does not have this gold seal I do not necessarily consider them less serious about dating.
Perhaps others could be permitted to put up a photo of a silver seal, for the "Half-serious Member" or a bronze seal for "Rarely serious Member"?
Anyway, when I haul out my member, it is usually for fun and pleasure, not for being serious. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 12:19:43 PM | Seriously people this can't be taken serious, because it comes from a non-serious member who never takes anything serious until he makes it that way by saying so, just like you would.
Seriously speaking now, never pay for anything that doesn't come with a guarantee unless you want to be taken for one of those gullible suckers or superficial clowns who believe just because you either can't think or don't care to.
Even worse those who to need to show a label they paid... ummm what was it ??? twenty cents a day that they are more worthy a person than the rest???? Well, apparently it is in place
And this wonderful new upgrade arrives just when every one was happy to feel we have taken a great step forward in political correctness reducing prejudices and labels.
In a sad way I am grateful for the Apartheid implemented on POF. It certainly helps all those sincere people by offering a new policy of segregation and discrimination against those feeble minded needy SERIOUS ones.
Disclaimer, the above opinion is a reflection of the results of the 25 or more pages of the forum post thread discussing the topic
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts11916896.aspx | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 2:21:48 PM | Thanks for pointing out that link MNM.
I am totally opposed to the concept. I have already been on two sites and found even pay sites can
have plenty of members that are non-serious and you have to investigate and sleuth out what is
true and misleading on each profile. Lots of commitment phobia types and desperate people on here
and on every other online site.
Alas, being a "gold star" member of this site only means that you are willing to part with your cash and
believe, like I did, that by buying a membership I would be exposed to more quality people. Few of
your members came across this site accidentally, most were referred by friends or happened to be
talking about the site and brought a few friends to an event, etc.
I love the site and have met some truly wonderful people - both sexes. I have opportunities to read
the forums and attend events. Something the other sites don't have. That makes this site unique. Your
members are your biggest promoters and ambassadors Markus. I think in large part you seem to have
lost that focus. I certainly mean no disrespect.
It doesn't mean there will be better control over the BS written or less manipulation going on or less
games played. Nor does it mean the elimination of a "kid in a candy store" mentality by those who
are new on the site. It will still mean that I have to put in just as much effort in finding "my match"
and still won't get answers from volunteer moderators to simple questions. Yes, I am serious about
finding someone, but I am not ready to settle for just anyone. IMHO an expenditure of cash does not
make anyone more serious than I am.
The site is what you make of it.
I agree with those that have suggested you create another site for those that welcome the new
option. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 2:42:37 PM | Those who want to give away their money for nothing are more than welcome to do so... it ain't my problem. As for any significance to these gold badges
not when a forums only/in a relationship profile has one! | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 5:21:45 PM | I'm with the bunny on this one, I too have been on paid sites and what do you know...
A lot of the same people I see on this site, and have found that the mindset there isn't very different than what I have found here, willing to send endless e-mails back and forth but very apprehensive when it actually comes to meeting.
So nope not reaching into my wallet, and not giving much credence to that little medallion that I have noticed popping up on some of the pictures that float by on my screen...
So here I am looking for that one( seriously), being patient and hoping that one of these days we will meet..... | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 5:27:11 PM | It might be too late for your vote to have any influence for people have already coughed up money; some profiles now have the gold seal of a Serious Member designation.
Will Marcus now enable these Serious Members to hide their profiles from all members who are not Serious Members?
Will those Serious Members have the option to search only for Serious Member profiles?
That would definitely change things in here. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 6:06:26 PM |
I wonder if this means that the 'non-serious' members will no longer appear in the 'serious' members searches. After, all, they're second-class lowlifes, I guess.
Will Marcus now enable these Serious Members to hide their profiles from all members who are not Serious Members?
I don't know...have you asked Big Fish?
as for segregation and Apartheid....my gosh....those are very big words to use...my goodness this is a free dating site.
I find that a bit extreme to be so up in arms over this.
I am a single mom on a tight budget.. I can not afford the monthly ding on my credit card for an upgrade..but man...this is what people complain about... not being able to make some money... free enterprise... and here we are suddenly bucking to the concept that Big Fish has moved from his school project ...aka POF to making some modifications and in the process making some dough....and ya...don't forget... providing a service for 'some' interested Fishes.
If you haven't found that Fish of your Dreams after all these years here....well... maybe it is time to try something new. Perhaps you were not as serious in your search...and using all the tools at your disposal. Other pay sites are claiming to offer up results and offering up tools. Why shouldn't POF do the same?
Before anyone says that I am sucking up or looking for a freebie....let's just make it clear that I am not...and there is no love lost here between me and management.... as I have been banished more times than I can count. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ?
Posted: 3/8/2009 6:36:09 PM | It is interesting what one can learn from viewing admin's forum post history.
If you are a Man and have a Gold star on your profile the chance of a women making first contact with you increases 890%
If you are a women, the chance of a man contacting you increases 40%
Its going to take a while for me to figure out how much better it is at generating relationships but early data is saying it at least doubles your chances.
... but what most people don't realize is women make massive amounts of first contacts they just send them to a very small pool of Men. Basically ones that are A. "Rich" or B "Hot" statistically speaking of course.
Men just message everyone and hope that someone responds.
Chances of meeting someone nearly doubles if you select long term instead of dating... Every little thing makes a massive difference.
3. Forum users for the most part aren't serious daters, they don't send as many messages, they are far more picky, don't respond etc. The average dater stays 5 months average forum user is 3+ years. | |
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