| Idea: Bridge from Vancouver to Victoria
Posted: 4/5/2009 8:06:20 AM | | A bridge might be impossible, but I seriously doubt a tunnel would be. There is already one tunnel in the world longer than that one. The tunnel that connects France to England is over 50km... the distance from the mainland to Vancouver island is only 45km... but it would probably make more sense to connect to the smaller islands and build a series of smaller bridges and tunnels to us. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2009 8:17:37 AM | A bridge is NOT impossible at all. When projects like this are looked at, you must take into consideration a lot of variables, including tides, salt water,enviromental,property, COST (and how to recoup),etc.
Only have to look at back east and how that bridge effected the life of the islanders when the gate was opened up to the mainlanders. I actually think it will be a long time before you see such a connection and even MUCH longer for connections of any sort to the smaller pieces of land out there in Georgia Strait.
Gonna have ferries here for a while yet. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2009 2:28:58 PM | | This idea has been around forever...I doubt it will happen as BC Ferries LIKES the fact we are a slave to them to get back n forth!!! | |
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Posted: 4/5/2009 2:47:54 PM | in politics practical solutions hardly ever happen
so bullshiat makes the world go round
if we ever elected competence
we wouldn't need to go to the polls every few years
and others or I couldn't biatch about it
can't have than now can we | |
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Posted: 4/5/2009 2:49:12 PM | I'm not fond of sometimes being held hostage by the ferries, but I'd be even less fond of a bridge and the island being opened up to all the riff raff from the mainland. It's quieter and the pace of life is slower over here, and a good part of the reason for that is that we're on an island, and I think it's best left that way. If they were ever to seriously proceed with construction of a bridge, I'd be one of many, many protesters throwing themselves in front of equipment, chaining ourselves to equipment, doing whatever necessary to stop it. Does that make me a treehugger of sorts? Perhaps, but I've always considered myself to be a bit of a redneck tree hugger anyways, and I am damn proud of it! No   goddam bridge, and anyone thinks they're gonna build one is gonna have a lot of people that think like me to go through first! | |
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Posted: 4/5/2009 4:11:00 PM | The idea of either a tunnel or bridges connecting the mainland and
Vancouver Island along with the various smaller islands along the way
has been talked about since I was a kid(a long time ago).
I would be one of the first protesters out there to stop such a thing from
happening.
I like the fact we're secluded from the mainland. I like the fact we can shut down
all forms of transportation on and off the island.
I hate that we are held hostage by bc ferries..but there are alternatives to getting
on an off the island if your really determined to do so.
We have a better more laid back life style on this Island and I would like to see it
remain that way. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2009 5:54:26 PM | I lived on the Island as a teen, they were talking even back then about how awful the forry service was & that we should build a bridge.
but it would probably make more sense to connect to the smaller islands and build a series of smaller bridges and tunnels to us. - Light Storm The Sunfish
Unfortyunately, the people residing on the Gulf Islands are against this, due to the increase in traffic & pollution. And as many poster from the Island have noted, they are probably not in favour of the idea either. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2009 6:05:50 PM | A community need not necessarily be situated on an island to rely on BC Ferries, and as some islanders, some of its residents oppose bridges or highways.
The isolation comes at a cost and may be an inconvenience to all at some point, but it does deter visits from vagabonds and riffraff. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2009 10:17:14 PM | I grew up on the island .. moved away for 25 years and now I am back. I also enjoy the fact that between 11 pm and 7 am the island is closed for business. The talk of a bridge I remember from my youth and I didn't like the idea then, and I am even more opposed to the idea now. You want the mainland in my opinion go and live over there.
I would rather be held hostage by BC Ferries than to have open access to everyone all the time to our little piece of tranquility.
At one of the local rec centres here they have a sign in the kids pool that says "Please stay off the island" I am so tempted most times I am there to ask to borrow it and stick it at the ferry terminal in Tsawassen right after the 24th of May long weekend. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2009 12:53:36 AM | | I'd like to see a Bridge over the Saanich Inlet going from North Saanich over to Mill Bay/Arbutus Ridge area. That would reduce the Ferry traffic from having to come down the Pat Bay Highway and back up the accident prone Malahat. Saltspring doesn't want to be connected by a bridge as it would decrease the tranquility. There's no McDonalds, Tim Hortons, Best Western Hotels, or anything commercial over there, but a bridge would allow big company trucks to come over and purchase land for another Walmart! | |
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Posted: 4/6/2009 2:07:26 AM | "Idea: Bridge from Vancouver to Victoria."
Good idea, hovever it is going to the Ferries for a long time yet.
A lot more cost effective, to maintain the Ferry system that is already in service, then to build a bridge, and maintain it.
One accident on the bridge, will hold up traffic for hours.
And over water????????
No thanks.
Rather wait in the Ferry lineup, with a lesser chance of an accident on a bridge over water.
Ooooooooh, should of figured that this would get them thar peaceful loving Island people in an up-roar. LOL LOL LOL | |
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Posted: 4/6/2009 5:46:35 PM | A bridge might be impossible, but I seriously doubt a tunnel would be. There is already one tunnel in the world longer than that one. The tunnel that connects France to England is over 50km... the distance from the mainland to Vancouver island is only 45km...
It's not a good idea. The island is unique, the people have a much better more connected liftstyle. The island still has communities, people know their neighbours. Generations stay at home on the island and raise their families together. The island is a wonderful place and connecting it to the mainland would surely destory much of what makes it special, and I am speaking as a mainlander who loves the big city of Vancouver.
And if it happened, having it go from Vancouver to Victoria would be a huge mistake, there is already far two much girdlock in these cities, and joining them together would destroy what makes them unique. Maybe a destination somewhere mid-island would be more appropriate.
but it would probably make more sense to connect to the smaller islands and build a series of smaller bridges and tunnels to us.
This would be an horrible thing! Vancouver Island may be well developed and have a fairly dense population, but the gulf islands are truly a unique treasure and joining them to the mainland by bridges would be a travesty.
Let the islands be islands. The only real problem here is that BC ferries was meant to be a public "utility", designed to serve the peoeple, and not a profit making American run enterprise is has been morphed into. The call should not be for a bridge, but for a return of BC ferries to its rightful owners, the people of BC, and service before profits. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2009 11:23:00 PM | We are not going to see any tunnelling or Bridges for the next 50 Years. Not financially feasible for a Quarter Million People only. The "Chunnel" from France to England serves over 200 Million People annually.
Many pristine Natural Habitats such as the Sunshine Coast & Malaspina Peninsula would be destroyed if Vancouver Road Traffic could get there in an Hour or Two with Gas Costs only. Lets keep these Areas beautiful and make them the Object of infrequent Visits. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2009 7:52:57 AM | DTC
"Idea: Bridge from Vancouver to Victoria."
Good idea,
BOOOOOOO,... BAD idea
Ticket
Not financially feasible for a Quarter Million People only. The "Chunnel" from France to England serves over 200 Million People annually.
Thanks Ticket for pointing out the real reason it won't happen nor should it...
C'mon folks Vancouver Island barely has a million people ( if) on the WHOLE island. MAYBE 10%??? would use a bridge or tunnel on a regular basis.
bad investment.. and for those who whine and complain about BC Ferries,....... remember,... YOU chose island living. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2009 9:11:45 AM |
C'mon folks Vancouver Island barely has a million people ( if) on the WHOLE island. MAYBE 10%??? would use a bridge or tunnel on a regular basis.
Well, speaking as one of 10%... instead of getting off the island a few times a year for important events, I might be inclined to go every other weekend to visit family in Vancouver. With a bridge... I could leave van anytime I wanted... and not have to conform to some stupid schedule. I could go over for a party... and come back at 2am... Certainly won't do that now. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2009 3:08:36 PM | | Ticketoride is correct: a bridge from Vancouver to Victoria is unfeesable for an indefinite time. For the next couple decades, the Danes and Swedes will be paying off the Oresund Bridge connecting Malmo with Copenhagen---and it was completed nearly a decade ago. Needless to add, the distance is but only 10km and services far more people than we will ever see in our lifetimes. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2009 3:20:47 PM | This has been kicking around for years and years.....
It's not afforable, probably never would be......
Secondly, most islanders are anti bridge, anti mainland in general, considering what's going on in the news on a daily basis, who could blame them....... | |
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Posted: 4/11/2009 1:36:09 AM | | If a bridge is built or a tunnel built how on Earth are they going to pay for it? Translink is already having trouble making ends meet. The Patulo Bridge replacement has been put on the back burner and the next extension for the skytrain known as the Evergreen Line may be next. They are trying to raise more money by uping the tax on residential properties. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2009 3:55:51 PM | Now it looks like they are trying a high speed ferry as an alternative to join
Victoria and Vancouver....
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts12211589.aspx
Story came out yesterday, but I've been hearing the buzz for a while now.
I wouldn't want a bridge either, but there has to be a better way (than the options we have now) to connect
the two major hubs of our province.
~mizz | |
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Posted: 4/22/2009 8:46:34 PM | and as ML said in that other thread
Didn't we retire a few of those "New High Speed Ferries" or sold them for scrap because they were a money loosing preposition and apparently had negative environmental impact, the waves caused shoreline erosion.
been there, done that.... gave them the shirts off our backs to pay for them too. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2009 10:00:50 AM | | Those old high speed ferries weren't sold. They are still sitting in the harbour. And we can't sell them because they belong to the company that made them and they can't sell them either because they are complete garbage. Also those ferries didn't go from downtown to downtown. They went from Vancouver to Naniamo. I'm hoping that these new ferries will get quite a lot more use than the old fast ferries because this is a really good idea. And I'm fairly certian they will too. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2009 10:41:29 AM | Bumfluff ^^^
Those old high speed ferries weren't sold.
Assuming you referring to the infamous "Fast Cats"
- PacifiCat Explorer
- PacifiCat Discovery
- PacifiCat Voyager
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Ferry_Scandal
After a change in leadership, the new Premier of BC, Ujjal Dosanjh, placed the ferries up for sale. A subsequent election virtually eliminated the New Democratic Party from the legislature, and Gordon Campbell of the BC Liberals auctioned off the PacifiCat fleet on March 24, 2003 for $19.4 million ($6.5 million/vessel) to the Washington Marine Group.
Further controversy erupted when it was revealed that the same company had offered $60 million for the vessels prior to the auction. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2009 10:45:33 AM | | Perhaps I was mistaken but I do believe they are still sitting in our harbour because they are completely useless. At least that's what I gained from some of the local transportation forums I speak on. After looking at the link you gave it says at the bottom 'projected uses'. I am surprised they are even considering using them. | |
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