| "I will OBEY you???"
Posted: 6/29/2005 12:28:26 PM | I went to a wedding in the church...And
the couple that were getting married
were really happy so as the people witnessed
the ceremony...but there's one thing that bothers
me...it's the wedding vows..when the priest told the
bride to repeat after him, she did..that's okay that's
her...and there's a "i will honour you; and "OBEY"
you????? Is it my hearing problem or that "OBEY" word
is really there?? When I asked my cousin..she was laughing
and asked me what's wrong with it......I'm so sorry, If I get
there, I'd rather make my own vows. I know it means
the other way but I don't think I can say that word..
I will honour him BUT "Obey" him???..that is a very "inhumane:
word to say...LOL...i thought they only
use that word in "dog's school"
but again, that's me!
What about you Ladies???
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| I will OBEY you???
Posted: 6/29/2005 12:32:58 PM | Yeah Screw that line.
Sit Doggie Sit Good Boy. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 12:34:18 PM | | Nothing like starting out the marriage with a lie huh? Or it could of been one of those master/sub type relationships. Was leather worn as the formal attire? Mask? Whips? rope involved? | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 12:42:14 PM | First off let us explore the origin of the word Obey. I have researched this thoroughly and have discovered the that the the word is Greek in origin. It means Jewish Online Auction. From this we can derive the meaning from the vow that the woman will love him until such a time she sees fit and then auction him off to the highest bidder. Hope this helps. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 12:46:10 PM | Isnt that what all you woman were born to do?? Obey!!
Just kidding dont beat me... well maybe a little..lol | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 12:50:08 PM | I'm not sure what the normal vows are now but yes years ago that was in the marriage vows. I think thats why so many older people stayed together for so long, she had to obey him and stay. ahhhh the good old days. Sorry just kidding.  | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 12:55:38 PM | I think they took obey out and replaced it with will b*tch about everything you do.. | |
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| I will OBEY you???
Posted: 6/29/2005 1:03:19 PM | | Maybe they are secretly practicing D/s and they DID write their own vows. lolol | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 1:06:06 PM | In the days that those vows were written, women were considered "chattel" little more than furniture. Many were treated like children.
And a woman was "required" to obey her husband. There are still laws on the books in some states that have no problem with a man beating his wife as long as he uses something with less width than his thumb.
In Indiana,a cop once told me the best way to "tame " a woman was to spank her. Since no woman would want pictures taken of her a$$ to show everyone.
So there are still men who treat women like children. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 1:17:11 PM |
I'm not sure what the normal vows are now but yes years ago that was in the marriage vows. I think thats why so many older people stayed together for so long, she had to obey him and stay. ahhhh the good old days. Sorry just kidding.
Too bad you missed your own point..You nailed it, partially. But there's a flipside to that vow and its recipricated.."Husbands, honor and love your wives". ... The "obey" component of the vow for me symbolizes humbleness (which is not to be taken advantage of) and is a link to the unification of one body (formly two) as part of the marriage sacrament. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 1:23:25 PM | Good point! There are so many things wrong with modern marriage, it has become a money making enterprise. Nobody should have to "OBEY" their spouse. Cooperate yes, but obey, no.
In times of old, nobody made money off your love for one another. Look up "handfasting" and you will see a glimpse of a much simpler past. If and when I marry my girlfriend, we will have a handfasting instead of a "modern" marriage.
I cringe when a girl says she wants a "traditional" wedding, because half the time she dosen't know what one is. The modern insitution of marriage is mainly a money making venture for lawyers, judges and justices of the peace. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 1:24:44 PM | How about both parties uttering the words "obey', "honor" and "respect" and "love"?
Isn't that what marriage is about? Isn't it supposed to be entirely reciprocal? | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 2:04:39 PM | | Yes, but i think each party has distinct roles and responsibilities within the marriage and the 'obey' component may be elluding to the man as being still the 'head of the household' so to speak. Now if the man completely commits to living up to his vow, is this such a bad thing? | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 2:09:41 PM | | hahaha, meowwrr,,we changed and wrote our own vows. We didn't care for the obey part either, nor til death do we part. (Maybe silly, but we had our own. ) I wish to God I could remember exactly what it was. But we have done OK, I guess, with a lot of changes, and things that made our life together hell. I don't know how a perfect marriage would be. Doubt that there is such a thing. Everybody has hell of some kind. All all, she married ME! | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 2:15:10 PM | Maybe you didnt say those words but perhaps you're living them?..Congrats btw.. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 2:16:56 PM | I didn't hear the man saying the word "obey"..
I think, what he said was.."i will love u, cherish u and protects u"
or maybe i didn't hear it well enough.
But still, that is a heavy word..for me, that's still inhumane!
LOL Offrocker..i think that is a good idea..write ur own vows!
It's a shame u forgot it already! | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 2:28:20 PM | | WEll, my memory has a lot of cobwebs. I must be a worthless piece of shyt. My wife must be mentally challenged to still be with me. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 3:06:35 PM | | You have to realize it kinda goes both ways. If you obey me I will love you and if you love me I will obey you. It's marriage. everything said in that church has an applied agreement by both parties. And obey is not meant in the sense of doggie training. In example " Honey would you please get my favorite tie out of my closet for me?'' Now if you go get the tie ladies , it's obedience. I know men don't always phrase it that way,and I know that sometimes they could just as easily do it themselves , but a man likes a woman who is willing to do nice things for him. If they were raised as I was however, your help will be requested and not demanded, and it will ALWAYS be appriciated. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 3:08:46 PM | errr, thank you, Vice. By the way, what was I talkin about? I tend to forget fast these days. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 3:09:03 PM | I for one do have problems with obeying anyone accept what I want to do and I guess you can say I am a bit stubborn but because of my religion I would say the vows but not necessarily follow the obey word. Words are what they mean to you not necessarily how it is used this is why there is a-lot of miss communications.
I agree with you it is not a bad thing. You do know women control most everything LOL. As old as my mom and dad are and they been married for 30 years or longer they got married through those vows but my mom basically does what she wants and I laugh at my dad when he says that he is the boss LOL. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 3:09:47 PM | To the OP.
Why does this suprise you? That "Obey...." vow and others, have been around for a long time. It's nothing new. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 3:13:15 PM | | Now is being spanked a bad thing just a little. Just kidding. It could be fun LOL. you are right women should not be treated as children. Even though it is fun at times LOL. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 3:15:00 PM | Take one hell of a man to get me to obey
.................hear that cowboy? | |
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