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 romantic an sweet

Joined: 6/29/2004
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Posted: 6/30/2005 3:56:15 AM
hi my g/f is about 2 do something v stupid an dangerous (run away from home) i said i will pick her up 2night if i get paid but i need r help so i know wat 2day (bytheway shes 15)
 Palpy

Joined: 4/18/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2005 4:40:31 AM
First of all you're 23 years old. What the hell are you doing dating a 15 year old girl? The second part I don't understand. If you don't get paid you're not going to pick her up? <

My advice is for you to date someone your own age.

Palpy
 punkdchick

Joined: 6/18/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2005 5:43:37 AM
So what are you doing? Helping her run away though you know it's stupid and dangerous? I don't really understand what you're asking...
 Montreal_Guy

Joined: 3/8/2004
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Posted: 6/30/2005 6:19:29 AM
Hope you didn't do it.

There is a thing called statutory rape that you may be charged with, and having your picture on an Amber Alert all over the planet is never a good thing.

I would say stick to people over the age of 18.
 ash_ma_ley

Joined: 4/4/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2005 6:23:12 AM
ok the age is a bit extreme, umm... is she doing this to proove something to you?, maybe she's trying to grow up to fast..tell her shes being an idiot... n maybe she will listen to you.
 romantic an sweet

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Posted: 6/30/2005 7:11:02 AM
firstly i am aware of the age gap 8 years
secondly she doesent live in my town she lives in chelmsford
thirdly i would never rape her
forth she told me this yesterday
fifth if u knew what she has been through u would understand let me tell u wat se has been through

she has been raped attacked
bullied at school
her last b/f had a wife tht threatned 2 kill her
her other b/f dumbed her


so u see wat she has been through

oh an she maybe 15 but she acts mature so she acts more like a adult then a girl
 punkdchick

Joined: 6/18/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2005 7:14:59 AM
You didn't answer... what are you trying to do? Where are you going to take her after you pick her up? What are you asking advice on exactly? You seem to already have your mind made up.
 romantic an sweet

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Posted: 6/30/2005 7:17:24 AM
right 2 answer r question she be staying t my in my bed but i be sleeping on the sofa downstairs (proves i am not that type of person) but wat i am hoping 2 do is persude her 2 go back home because even i think she is been stupid
 punkdchick

Joined: 6/18/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2005 8:30:28 AM
And if the parents call the police because she is a minor... what will you do then?
 undercover blonde

Joined: 6/3/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2005 10:34:23 AM
Don't do it. You will find yourself in jail with a strong possibility of prison. If her issues at home are that serious and her parents cannot help or are part of the problems, then contact a local shelter for domestic abuse and get some advice. Find her a safe and legal place to go, where you are both protected. You will not do her any good at all from jail.
 pykajiura

Joined: 6/18/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2005 1:09:11 PM
Well I have seen and heard that story many of times from many different young girls.

If you are going to help her, fine, take her to a womans shelter. Good to know, that you have mathematical skills. People are right about her age and you, and what troublesome problems would arise to you.

Though it seems like you live pay cheque to pay cheque. I can tell you have good intentions towards her. I'll give you a little advice, be friends with her if you want, just that you might be taking on more then you can carry.
 4kmetoo

Joined: 6/28/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2005 1:55:17 PM
Maybe you could take her to Neverland Ranch?
 fishbill

Joined: 3/19/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2005 10:47:41 PM
Dude, I hope both of you STAY IN SCHOOL!
 Frrosty

Joined: 3/21/2004
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Posted: 6/30/2005 11:02:10 PM
Don't do it. You will find yourself in jail with a strong possibility of prison. If her issues at home are that serious and her parents cannot help or are part of the problems, then contact a local shelter for domestic abuse and get some advice. Find her a safe and legal place to go, where you are both protected. You will not do her any good at all from jail.


And that's^ the truth my friend.

be her friend...perhaps angel if you will....but do not sleep with or have any sexual contact with this girl at all.;YOU will mess her up even more and drag yourself down while you do. (IN ways that you and her will likely never be able to get back from)

Do the right thing dude. This is a chance to be a man...a real man.

Help her deal with her home problems..keep her on a healthy and safe path for herself ..and send her off into the world of people her own age once you know she is safe and stable k? Be a friend that she will never forget and thank in her dreams time and time again. The man who all of her younger bfs will have to emulate and have traits fo to even stand a chance. The man who saves her fromany more of the above listed "sh*t"

Keep her in school, keep her from the drugs (15..like come on), and help her see the difference between men that will abuse and men that will treat her well..and send her on her way. When she comes to you for sex...let her know that it isn't right and that THAT is part of the problem. Sex never makes things better dude. It only sustains what you have or makes things goto hell.

THAT is how you love this girl. (to love her this way without sex is doing so much more for her than using her would do..and allowing her to use you for sex even. Sex..would be the losers consolation prize in this instant)

No losers in this bud. ;)

You make it win and win.

Just do the right thing k? (funny how the story filters around and the girls your own age find you as something that they have been taught in fairy tales and dreams...a prince..and one thats true) YOu will get your due rewards...cause Kharma always wins. ;)

You help her run away and/or have any sexual contact with this cutie..of 15..and you nothing but a low-esteemed chump who deserves rabid beats every time you are seen.

You help her see that life has some pretty tough challenges and that they can be overcome in a way that doesn't have to result in destitute and endless pain....in essence.....give her strength to do the right thing herself.....and you're my hero dude. And your self esteem will become strong as f*ck and part of who you are. *shrugs* You probably will not even know how strong you are.

It's not easy dude......but the rewards to your soul? (so very worth it dude)


Peace and good luck bro,.

I bet you pull it off. ;)
 Frrosty

Joined: 3/21/2004
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Posted: 6/30/2005 11:22:11 PM

right 2 answer r question she be staying t my in my bed but i be sleeping on the sofa downstairs (proves i am not that type of person) but wat i am hoping 2 do is persude her 2 go back home because even i think she is been stupid


And that right there is why I'm betting on ya dude.

Just help her deal with sh*t; talk her throgh if needed. In essence my friend; you will be her guidance councillor.

*shrugs*

I believe in you.
 Montreal_Guy

Joined: 3/8/2004
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Posted: 6/30/2005 11:35:01 PM
By the way, statutory rape is sex with a minor - which she is.

"General Definition of Statutory Rape
Generally, when someone of or over the age of consent has sex with someone below the age of consent, it is considered statutory rape.

In other words, if you are over the age of consent and you have sex with a girl who is under the age of consent, even though she willingly has sex with you, you are guilty of statutory rape."

That was what I meant.

Helping her out is a good and noble thing. Once the authorities get involved, the law applies. I just meant be careful you do not pay a price that is beyond anything you can imagine right now.
 bio

Joined: 10/7/2004
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Posted: 7/1/2005 12:04:53 AM
For the record, it looks like the age of consent for sex in England (where romantic is from) is 16. So yeah, definitely avoid any activities which would could be described as 'sex'.

I haven't looked up specific laws about abduction in England, but I suspect that if the parents wanted to they could at least get you locked up temporarily for picking her up and helping her to run away. How's your relationship with the parents? Do you think if you called them up and talked to them about the situation that they might voluntarily let her go stay with you for a while? (Seems like a long shot, but I thought I'd ask.)

Montreal Guy: Judging from your posts in this thread, I think you might be surprised to learn that the age of consent is 14 in Canada. Most places are somewhere between 16 and 18, but it varies from country to country (or state to state in the US). I don't really have a point, I just thought you might like to know for future reference when the topic comes up.

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 romantic an sweet

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Posted: 7/1/2005 1:35:59 AM
hi i do have good intentions towards her an i never have met her in person an not going 2 until she tells him 2 come an see her an finaly panic is over got call from her yesterday shes home safe an well an she is not leaving an as 4 the age 8 years gap is not a prob because when she is
21 i be 27 or 28 wich means we will both be in the same age group
 Frrosty

Joined: 3/21/2004
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Posted: 7/1/2005 1:37:36 AM
If I may say; you are a good man for worrying about this kid dude.

 romantic an sweet

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Posted: 7/1/2005 1:38:34 AM
thanks man
 page1952

Joined: 6/8/2005
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Posted: 7/1/2005 2:49:49 AM
This sounds like an internet fling. It is hard to believe but I do remember what it was like to be 15.
I had a hard time at home as well. At that time I was looking for a way out.
You will have to be very careful. You do not know her. Taking a stranger into your home, you could be getting yourself set up for all kinds of trouble.
I have heard of girls saying they were raped when all they did was have the bed to themselves
I also agree with taking her to a woman's shelter. You could visit and not be opening yourself up to all sorts of problems
 Blastkist

Joined: 5/28/2005
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Posted: 7/1/2005 2:15:24 PM
I hope you're not having sex with her...that is illegal. She is underage.

If you cared about her, you'd get out of the relationship and stop providing her with an "out" which is possibly why she's doing this anyway, to have someone to run to her rescue when the going gets tough...if she is being maltreated at home, she can contact different support systems for that.

Jumping into your arms and your bed is not the answer to her problems that's for sure.
 misplaced scorpion

Joined: 7/2/2005
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Posted: 7/2/2005 9:03:21 AM
Been there done that. doesn't work. All your looking for is trouble. You say your 23? Act like one and start to think with your brain and not your crotch. Let this girl live her life and enjoy being a teenager. I currently know a female who did this 15 years ago, the regretes she has are 7 kids (not really a regrete), a home that is falling down around her and a husband who only cares about his pick-up truck and dog...

If you really care about this person, you will let her grow up. If it is meant to be, she will be there in a couple more years. Christ, you really need to think this over. Personally, I dated my "soon to be EX when she was 16, married her after five years and am now paying out the ass for attorneys to get me out 15 years later. How in the hell can you expect a child to truely express her intentions when she hasn't even had the oppertunity to live her life. YOur first love is always the hardest, but it will pass. You will never forget her. Take care of yourself. You are both to young to jump into the world of reality, and trust me, REALITY SUCKS.

Reality= $850.00 mortgage+$200.00 electric bill+$450.00 car payment+water bill+health insurance+Gasoline etc. etc. etc... getting laid will soon be the last thing on your mind. Let her be but be her freind.

I am sure that there is an underlying problem that you haven't shared. I'll close with

"You can not run away from your problems. You need to take ownership. Be honest with yourself and the people that care about you."

good luck. We all have regretes, you can control this one.
 bucsgirl

Joined: 3/2/2005
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Posted: 7/2/2005 9:35:08 AM
romantic If you intentions are good then she's using you either to escape from a bad home situation which may be nothing more than good parents trying to enforce a curfew, teenagers are known to lie about their parents. She could just be trying to get the attention of a more mature man, either way sounds like you're being used and could possibly end up in serious trouble yourself. If you want to help someone go volunteer at the red cross, or other legit organization. Sounds like you're a caring person, just don't let someone use that against you.
 cudahudson

Joined: 3/27/2005
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Posted: 7/2/2005 11:13:17 AM
After you are arrested and charged with several crimes dealing with rape and others that deal with helping a minor and are sent to prison And become the property of a guy named "Bubba" and she is back home with mommie be sure to stoop to pick up the soap and not bend over, Bubba will get angry.
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