| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/17/2009 12:52:58 PM | The new TV series The Cougar is actually damaging womens' image and the gains they have made during the past forty years or so in their efforts to be on equal footing with men in their social and work lives. The series sophomorically portrays women in their forties as if they were teenie boppers with the minds of bimbos seeking men significantly younger than themselves in order to prove that they can engage in similar antics as do men as they age. In fact many WOMEN, not pseudo-women with the emotional functioning of teenagers as portrayed on this series, have been dating younger men for numerous years but had no need to publicize it because for them it was merely a part of their lives.
However TV LAND is preying on the gullibility and vulnerability of aging women for financial gain by attempting to convince them that they can remain young and attract younger men for eternity! The fact is that TV Land's primary motive is to attract women in their forties and fifties to watch their vapid show to bolster the number of women in this age demographic which in turn generates more income from advertising sponsors who manufacture and sell women's beauty products and other so-called feminine essentials. In addition, I can assure you that the vast majority of young men on this program, regardless of their BS about how attractive older women are, would generally not marry a woman that much older than themselves, but would say anything to get to bed down with them to suit their sexual needs. Unfortunately it is this garbage TV that influences many womens' thinking resulting in many wasting years of their lives pursuing fantasies that they were conditioned to believe by TV series and mass media hype that does not have their interest at heart. Just my opinion. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/17/2009 2:38:08 PM | | Just wondering, does the relationship last after shows like this or Bachelor/Bachelorette? | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/17/2009 3:45:02 PM | Relax - it's just television. It's supposed to be entertainment. Luckily, those who don't want to watch it have at least 299 other channels they can switch to.
You're taking the whole thing as WAY too serious (this is not even close to needing to be in the "Broken Hearts" section). I can list about 10 other shows doing more damage.
Aren't women in their 30s and 40s supposed to have common sense? If they do, a show like this won't matter - even if it IS the very definition of evil. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/17/2009 5:35:07 PM | Well, me being the age of 'the cougar', I hate this type of stuff.
However, I do see enough women my age running around in pre teen outfits, super dark tans and acting the stereotype, big time...I guess a show like this will add more to the heap...followers.
I guess the next show will be MILF...see which guy can get the mom to bed first or something? Sounds about right. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/17/2009 6:56:07 PM | brown eyed woman, not only are many women your age running around as if pre-teens but so are women in their forties, fifties and beyond with, unfortunately, the same mindset and lack of awareness of girls in this age range! Obviously there is nothing wrong with trying to maintain their youthful appearance but at the same time many are completely oblivious to the needs of others as they engage in self-adoration and fantasies relating to how beautiful and desired they are. In fact, this level of narcissism and me-ism (ie, the world, the universe revolves around their needs) results in their inability to form or sustain any relationships. So while men have been consistently blamed for not wishing to become involved in long term committed relationships, there are many women who in spite of their protestations, fall into the same category.
Unfortunately TV programs and movies such as the Cougar and others reinforce these distorted beliefs and perspectives in order to capitalize financially on these womens' naivete. In fact many American Women who are not particularly attractive have been sold a bill of goods by the mass media that perpetuates their fantasies of unlimited possiblities such as finding a rich husband, extremely handsome and successful men and maintaining their pseudo-youth forever. Unfortunately as reality sets in, as it usually does, and as many of these women age, they find themselves alone and lonely without attaining the unrealistic goals they set for themselves. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/17/2009 7:07:18 PM | | carolann0308, if you were correct in your assumption that "...no intelligent person will ever watch it or care", then the TV networks, their executive producers and sponsors would not be spending millions of dollars making such programs. In fact there is a hugh audience of women and men who watch these series and many are not dolts and the TV networks and their sponsors are earning countless millions of dollars selling myriad products and services to these demographic groups. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/17/2009 7:13:30 PM | | prodigalSon81, although I don't have data to support whether relationships last after these shows end, my gut tells me that most don't! For instance it appears obvious that the majority of the young male contestants in the Cougar are there to promote themselves or their careers rather than marry this forty something bimbo who is trying to prove that she can behave like any male contemporary of her age. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/18/2009 1:57:40 PM | I can't figure out what I think about the show yet, it's disturbing on a lot of levels. I'm all for the the woman finding her dream man, but the I don't know, the much younger guys seems too young to be in that show. I think I would have respected the show and the woman a lot more if the guys were 28 y/o and up... the 21 y/0 seem way too young and I'm not really someone to be stuck on age, but you from my own experience I don't have anything in common with any guy that is almost 20 years younger than I am... I feel disloyal to my gender and to older women even saying any of the above, does that make sense... please don't hate ladies... I'm all for us being happy and finding our match, I just don't see it happening with someone who is 20 y/o younger; 10 y/o that's not so much, 11, 12, even, but 20 I think is pushing it, and it feels almost exploitive...
Suz aka Sami | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/18/2009 4:15:51 PM | It's pathetic; just like the loser show the bachelor and bachelorette; some 40 year old woman that has had more plastic surgery and botox than anyone I've seen in years, acts like a slut to several 20 somethings. sounds magical.
TV is so friggin slutty it's pathetic. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/18/2009 4:40:06 PM | | I just wish these these typrs of tv shows would not build up some women just to tear them down. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/18/2009 5:07:49 PM | | Oh boy...I won't be watching this one...lol. Probably as exciting as "Desperate Housewives"...This is the reason I watch a lot of reruns of old shows these days... | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/18/2009 5:35:26 PM | "TV is so friggin slutty it's pathetic. "
Amen to that mthomjmark. I wouldn't be the least bit interested in it, but what is sad is all the people that will and will think this is socially normal... | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/18/2009 5:47:14 PM | I probably won't be watching it much either, but it still doesn't make it any less disturbing. I agree with most of what everyone has said. I think the only relationship that has every actually worked from any of these shows is the one with the fireman from Colorado (??)... I think it was a Bachelorette show, they have a kid and I think are expecting a second, last time I saw them on one of the talk shows. They seem to be very happy, and that's a good thing, I credit them for working as hard as they do on their relationship, especially given that they are living in fishbowl in large part.
Suz aka Sami | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/23/2009 8:26:53 AM | I find the concept behind this show pathetic. I don't care how attractive or successful a person is, when they cannot find a suitable mate within their generation, I believe there may be some flaws in the merchadise. Younger mates are much less mature, experienced and naive. Being more vulnerable to dysfunctional types, they fall prey to these types, be they cougars or dirty old men.
Fast forward 25 years and unless our Cougar winds up with the Joan Rivers Perpetual Just Goosed Look, we are going to have a younger husband who will be schtuping the maid because the woman of the house more resembles California raisins than an apporpriate mate for a 45 year old guy.
If all the attractive women my age are getting involved with younger guys, wouldn't logic dictate that there would be a surplus of available twenty something women? I don't see it, therefore my guess is the boys are playing with the older chicks, having them buy them expensive gifts and treating them to nice vacations and them coming home and hopping on the prom queen express as soon as they can.
I have seen it with middle aged guys for years, they are banging their secretary and covering the rent on their apartment and behind their back, the secretary is looking for tender vittles to get the smell of Old Spice and Ben Gay out of their nostrils. Who is fooling who? | |
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Posted: 4/23/2009 10:43:11 AM | | I agree although I don't have time for much T.V. . This sounds like who wants to be treated like a slut.:modhammer: | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/23/2009 10:47:54 AM | someoldguy, you are right on target. The premise of this show, that woman can do what older guys allegedly do with younger women, is imbecilic and misleading women into believing that they will be desired into their eighties and beyond by younger men! It as if this show allows certain women to vicariously act-out their vindictiveness for what they perceive as older men's advantage in dating younger women. In fact in the advertisement of this show one of the hostess states that men have always gone after younger women now it is womens turn!
Unfortunately in our society, in spite of all the hype about men and women being equal, the overwhelming onus continues to primarily be on women to maintain their youthful appearance through old age by purchasing very costly wardrobes and cosmetics and/or cosmetic surgery that revamps their faces, breasts, buttocks, lips, etc, etc. Men, on the other hand, can lose their hair, wear suits that are twenty years old, and continue to be perceived as attractive into their eighties by many women while many women continue to perceive themselves as getting old when they hit their thirties and forties! So the ONLY ones gaining from many womens' naivete are the producers and sponsors of these shows who are making inordinate amounts of money from these vapid programs preying on womens' fantasies and wishful thinking. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/23/2009 7:50:25 PM | LET THEM HAVE FUN, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT BE FAKING. OR NOT
I DO NOT USUALLY WATCH ANY REALITY, EXCEPT AMAZING RACE, BUT I CAME ACROSS THE LOVE BUS, WITH BRET MICHAELS, I LOVED IT. ANYWAY I FEEL IF THEY WANT TO MAKE FOOLS AND SLUTS OF THEIR SELVES INCLUDING THE GUYS HELL LET THEM, IT GIVES US SOME COMEDY.
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/23/2009 8:53:19 PM | I think it's funny this in the borken hearts forum.
I work in oil and gas. Lots of well off men and the median age is upper forties in our company and most of the others in this town.
I can assure you finding a really handsome man over 35 is very hard. Men get paunchy, faded, grey, soft and weak looking as they age unless they work out. But even so there is little a man can do about his hair or face once it ages.
The fantasy that men are attractive past 40 was fed by us women to men to convince you to pay our mortgages.
Now that we can pay our own it's time to drop the pretense.
That's what you are broken hearted about I think. The pretense is gone and women can fianally afford to go after what they want which is not a paunchy, balding andropausal guy who can't get it up. Sorry but that's the way it is. We put up with it with good grace. Now it's your turn to roll with it baby. You have fallen from this position of grace where all you had to do was have a little money and make no effort in the looks department. Those days are over. Fall with dignity and quit whining.
Secondly, women used to burn out young because they had many children and lost sleep for years. We are genetically the daughters of women who had no contraception and those women survived 10 - 20 pregnancies. We are designed to be EXTREMELY resilient. Now that we are only having a couple of kids or less we have all that extra sleep and physical resources to give to ourselves. I am over 40, am not interested and never was interested in toy boys but they are totally interested in me....and my girlfirends ..who are almost all fit, wealthy, slim and hot. They work out and are educated so they eat well and they have the time to go to the gym and run marathons, ride mortorbikes, play hockey etc etc..
As for women finding wrinkly weak impotent men attractive you are off your rocker.
The only reason women ever PRETENDED to find old men attractive was because we knew how vulnerable you were to flattery and we were helplessly broke because you wouldn't hire us to work the good jobs so we had to brown nose to survive. It gave women the chance to flatter the guy and get her to marry him (convinced she really wanted him) when really she was after his $$$$$ because she needed it to survive. Ok, so we lied. Even the women who now say old men are attractive are usually the ones still desperate to please. Sorry but it's true and you know it.
BTW - No man ever supported me and I am only nice to men who treat me as an equal. I have a great guy (one of the rare hot guys over 40 with hair and muscles) who sees through this BS thank god - he never acts like men are all superior and should have a slanted playing field because he knows they no longer do and he doesn't mind. He thinks its fair and about time. He wants a partner, an equal, not a disadvantaged subordinate (except maybe in bed sometimes lol)
Do you REALLY think any of Hefners girls actually find him hot. HA HA HA.
Wakey wakey, the ego stroking is over. Yah, this does belong in the broken hearts section. Too right. Boo hoo. Cry me a river. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/23/2009 9:38:24 PM | Ok. I went to youtube and watched this absolutely tight bodied beautiful 40 yr old and she certainly is no teeny bopper looking for a boy. There are just as many if not more great looking women over 40 as there are men, maybe more. Hence there are not enough hot guys in our age range to choose from.
You are really portraying women over 40 negatively for some reason like you want us to stay "down" like we used to be but it's a waste of breath. Lots of fit beautiful older women who work out, have gorgeous clothes and are sophisticated women like a hard body with lots of stamina. Same reason over 40 men try to date young women. Neither of those matches is likely to last forever but then few marriages last more than 10 years anyway.
I think you are just sour grapes.
<div class='quote'> The premise of this show, that woman can do what older guys allegedly do with younger women, is imbecilic and misleading women into believing that they will be desired into their eighties and beyond by younger men! It as if this show allows certain women to vicariously act-out their vindictiveness for what they perceive as older men's advantage in dating younger women.
"Allegedly". Are you saying there is any doubt men have enjoyed the advantage of having money to attract young girls. Do you think when he is 70 and impotent and wrinkly and she is still hot and 45 that she will still desire him either?
I assure you women don't date younger men to be vindictive to older men like you. They haven't noticed you - it's just not about you at all.
You pretend to be "concerned" about these women but I don't buy that at all. You are just upset things are not as easy for you as you were brought up to believ ethey would be. When you were growing up you thought you would have this massive advantage over women your whole life and lets face it....that just isn't the case is it. You like a lot of men just cannot stand it that you don't have what you thought was your right and privilege. To feel superior. And you expect us to buy into this whiney drivel. You know what, there's another thread where the men are insisting the women should swallow. I think it's your turn to swallow....your pride.
As for whose fault it is about how you feel...it's your own fault. pride comes before a fall. That's kharma baby. | |
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| I say, whatever floats a person's boat
Posted: 4/24/2009 6:07:14 AM | My preference is someone closer to my age group, but that is not to say, that I would not be attracted to someone younger than myself. BUT, he would need to be mature, stable in his job, not living at home w/Mom & Pop, and no kids of his own (sorry, but not looking to be anyone's sugar step-mommy). It's just hard to find someone closer to my age group, who fits in any of those categories lol ;)
Honestly, if older men can date younger women, then I don't see anything wrong w/the opposite. | |
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/24/2009 6:18:27 AM | whatilikeaboutyou, "Me thinks the lady doth protest too much". Obviously you aren't defensive, merely about to explode like Mt. Vesivius because my post hit upon the truth!
Unfortunately in spite of your protestations and hyper-defensiveness, this show makes women appear to be shallow and mere sex objects for young guys who couldn't care less and know absolutely nothing about the emotional needs of maturer women BUT are merely attempting to gain their fifteen minutes of fame. No more, no less.
And YOU think such schlock series as the Cougar represents womens' gains towards equality with men? Not only does this "lady" on the Cougar seem limited intellectually and emotionally but her comments and statements about dating younger men are sophomoric and immature NOT indicative of a woman on equal footing with a man her age. So in fact such shows demean women, just as angry responses such as yours reveal the vindictiveness and defensiveness of many older women which has resulted in many remaining single into their latter years regardless of their attempts to defensively persuade others that they are happy with their single status. In fact many are not.
BTW, the phenomena of older women dating younger men is nothing new and has been occuring through the milleniums. The only difference is that women who are secure and comfortable with themselves and who are not hung-up with anger towards men have no need to defensively publicize and broadcast such relationships because for them it is a natural part of their lives. | |
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| I say, whatever floats a person's boat
Posted: 4/24/2009 6:39:49 AM | | ebonynyvoluptuous, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with an older woman dating younger guys and in fact this is not a new phenomenon but one that has been occuring for many, many years. The only difference is that marketers and sponsors of womens' cosmetics and clothing and other services have ingeniously marketed this fact on such idiotic shows as the Cougar to cater to many older womens' vanity and illusions about their perpetual youth to make them feel that they are in the drivers seat when it comes to finding an unlimited supply of younger men because many older guys are not interested in them. In fact the majority of older women will not meet younger men nor will they find the majority of these "relationships' emotionally satisfying. | |
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