| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/4/2009 4:23:39 AM | If Bruce Lee was alive and both were in their prime, who would win in a fight, Bruce Lee or Muhammad Ali?
I think Bruce Lee would win the fight so long as he could stay away from Ali's reach. If not, he'd be out cold. What do you guys think? | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/4/2009 7:38:54 AM | | bruce lee man, what do you think? bruce was born to take punishment and break bones. plus he's entered the dragon | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/4/2009 8:35:16 AM | | Bruse Lee is way too fast, but if Ali could get a punch in, IDK. Plus, Ali doesn't use his legs. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/4/2009 4:50:45 PM | | Is this for real? Hey, I like Bruce Lee as much as anyone. But trying to compare a 140lb actor with no professional fighting experience, to a 200lb pro-boxer is futile at best. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/4/2009 9:33:37 PM | | dude, do your homework, people lined up to fight bruce lee, but don't know how many fights he won and loss. he can fight street. do your homework! | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/4/2009 9:53:23 PM | | It depends upon the fight regulations. If it was a boxing match Ali wins. If it was a martial arts match Lee wins hands down. If it was a street fight match were anything goes and objects are at your disposal, toss up. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/4/2009 11:21:47 PM | | The whole thing would be an over-hyped bomb, like Muhammad Ali vs. Antonio Inoki. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/4/2009 11:28:21 PM | im as big of a bruce lee fan as anyone but i seriously doubt he could take ali.
ali has proven himself in the ring against world class opponents. he has taken beatings from some of the hardest punchers in the history of boxing and came back to win.. there is footage of all this.
how much actual footage is there of bruce lee beating world class fighters? bruce was around 130-140lbs. i doubt he could hurt ali if ali stood there with his hands down and let bruce take 5 free shots at him. ali layed on the ropes and let foreman, arguably the hardest puncher in the history of boxing basically tee off on him round after round.
an even worse match up for bruce would have been a prime foreman. foreman litterally lifted frazier off the canvas with an uppercut. how much did frazier weigh? about 215lbs? 220? had that been bruce lee, foreman would have launched him into orbit.
MMA has also proven that kung fu, and all the traditional martial arts arent very effective in a real fight. i think the first 5 or 6 UFCs pretty much weeded out what styles work and what doesnt.
a prime tank abbot could more then likely KO bruce lee and everyone hes faced in a straight up street fight. the whole "bruce lee was the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be" is a bunch of BS. its 2009 and i find it pretty crazy that some people still think that no man in the history or future of mankind could ever beat bruce lee in a fight. the guy was an actor, he hasnt proven anything except that he can make movies.
keanu reeves showed some kick ass martial arts in the matrix. kate beckinsale was badass in underworld. in the movies they fight like they could beat 99% of the worlds population. just because they were badass in the movies doesnt mean they can step in the ring and start knocking out professional fighters. they would get killed. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/4/2009 11:46:09 PM | a prime tank abbot could more then likely KO bruce lee and everyone hes faced in a straight up street fight. the whole "bruce lee was the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be" is a bunch of BS. its 2009 and i find it pretty crazy that some people still think that no man in the history or future of mankind could ever beat bruce lee in a fight. the guy was an actor, he hasnt proven anything except that he can make movies.
Bas Rutten said it best about how Lee would fair in MMA today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWZBSBab-Es&feature=related | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/5/2009 7:15:19 AM | | i heard bruce lee took a beating from gene tunneys son in a brawl in a resteraunt..and it all got hushed up and smoothed over..i dont think he would of lasted 2 minutes in a ufc cage fight with some of these bloke around today..and as for ali..he would of knocked him out with one punch....bruce lee was an actor and stuntman..not a superhuman streetfighter... | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/5/2009 9:45:13 AM | How can someone even fathom that Bruce Lee in his prime would beat Ali in his prime, is beyond me. One good shot at Lee's body would break him up so bad and he would not have been be able to get back up after a real fight with Ali.
Comic books don't cut it, in the homework department. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 7:36:06 AM | Most definatly BRUCE LEE , would love to have seen that though. Bruce's speed would have left Ali seeing butterflies.  R.I.P Bruce  xxx | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 7:44:09 AM | Ali would have to catch him first. And Bruce was most definatly not just an actor, his acting came second. Who knows, we never will, so this just comes down to favourites.  | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 8:44:15 AM |
If it was a street fight match were anything goes and objects are at your disposal, toss up.
In that instance, I'd guess that after Lee knocked Ali out with 5 chair shots to the head, Edge would come down to the ring, spear Lee, and win the match proving that he truly is the Ultimate Opportunist. Then Teddy Long would come out and schedule a match at Backlash for Lee to take on Edge in a Hell in a Cell Handicap "You're Fired" Casket Match. Lee's partner? Spiderman! With special guest referees, Muhammad Ali and the People's Champion, The Rock! The match would be for the World, Intercontinental, US, ECW, Divas, Women's, and WWE championship belts. The loser(s) would be personally fired by Vince McMahon the following night on Raw, but not before joining Vince's exclusive "Kiss My Ass Club".
Too bad Lee is gone and Ali can't fight like he used to. I think that would have been awesome to see! | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 9:04:13 AM | Remember the famous Bruce Lee VS Kareem Abdul Jabbar poster? with little Lee doing a flying kick right into former giant NBA star's face?
That's how Ali would go down.
If you watch UFC events, you know a precise kick to the head and the opposing fighter is out cold.
Never underestimate the reach and the strength of a leg kick, its more powerful than an arm punch. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 11:57:59 AM | UM well in a boxing ring Ali would kill Blee...but in some UFC, Kumate thing Blee would totally kick Alis ass...now in a street fight we dont know what Ali was capibale of. Blee was about 5'6 - 5'7 and Ali is about 6'3-6'4 . Now we all know that Blee did fight Kareem who is about 7'2 ( and they actually had sparing sessions in real life outside the movie they were in together) I think overrall watching a lot of UFC, and actually doing some Brazilian Ju-Jitsu that Blee would dominate Ali in every type of match with the exception to boxing. Im 5'11 about 235 and some cute lil 17 yr old girl who is like 5'1 about 110lbs made me tap by an arm bar and also a triangle hold . So sorry Ali fans but Blee would take him out. I would like to see Jackie Chan ( in his way younger days) against Blee, I believe Jackie was actually faster than Bruce!!!! GO LAKERS!!!!! | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 1:20:50 PM | Ali was a boxer, and Lee was an actor. Ali was 225 pounds in shape, and Lee, with three changes of clothes on and soaking wet, would have barely weighed 130 pounds. Ali is 6' 3", and Lee was 5' 9" max with platform shoes on. It's interesting to speculate about a fight like this; but the stats would have greatly favored Ali in any fight. The fact is that Lee would never have agreed to this fight because a loss would have diminished the mythical status he enjoyed.
Lee avoided most fights and all competitions after the Wong Man Jack debacle, where Lee fought all-out to a draw against a guy who only fought defensively and tried not to hurt Lee.
Bruce Lee was not a fighter. He had plenty of opportunities to compete in legit tournaments if that had been what he wanted to do. That was never his goal. The guy was a terrific actor and author who came up with some innovative techniques. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 3:55:20 PM | How can Bruce Lee be a credible actor? where's the oscar? anyone?
He was an incredible fighter and film makers knew that would draw people in to see him in a movie. His fame was long before pictures.
Think about it, any Joe that knew martial arts can be in movies, but if he has no history of great fighting ability, than nobody would go and see the movie.
I see people are trying to play by the rules, we're talking all out brawl. Lee is a street fighter and I'm sure he would know how to fight for survival vs. Ali would rely on a towel being thrown if he's beaten silly.
The rest of the debate is caveman thinking, "ugg, Ali bigger than Lee, Ali crush Lee" | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 4:21:45 PM | spitfire -
Ali was a boxer, and Lee was an actor. Ali was 225 pounds in shape, and Lee, with three changes of clothes on and soaking wet, would have barely weighed 130 pounds. Ali is 6' 3", and Lee was 5' 9" max with platform shoes on. It's interesting to speculate about a fight like this; but the stats would have greatly favored Ali in any fight. The fact is that Lee would never have agreed to this fight because a loss would have diminished the mythical status he enjoyed.
I was under the impression that Lee was actually closer to 140, but I agree with the rest of your points here.
Lee avoided most fights and all competitions after the Wong Man Jack debacle, where Lee fought all-out to a draw against a guy who only fought defensively and tried not to hurt Lee.
This, however, is pure hearsay - undoubtedly from WJM's perspective, LOL. There is no video from the fight for anyone to be able to say with certainty how it went. All we know is both guys lived from it.
Bruce Lee was not a fighter. He had plenty of opportunities to compete in legit tournaments if that had been what he wanted to do. That was never his goal. The guy was a terrific actor and author who came up with some innovative techniques.
True, Bruce was not a *competitor*. But he did practice full-contact sparring, and did sparring demos at tournaments in the 1960's. So, to say he was 'not a fighter' is selling him somewhat short.
horn -
He was an incredible fighter and film makers knew that would draw people in to see him in a movie. His fame was long before pictures.
That is not accurate. Bruce did not fight professionally. No one knew who he was until his first film hit.
Think about it, any Joe that knew martial arts can be in movies, but if he has no history of great fighting ability, than nobody would go and see the movie.
This is totally inaccurate. Roadhouse? American Ninja? Rumble in the Bronx? None of those actors - Swayze, Jet Li, Jackie Chan, etc - had ANY fighting experience. The guy from American Ninja wasn't even a martial artist at all. Jet Li and Jackie Chan were forms guys, not fighters, and will admit that themselves.
I see people are trying to play by the rules, we're talking all out brawl. Lee is a street fighter and I'm sure he would know how to fight for survival vs. Ali would rely on a towel being thrown if he's beaten silly.
Clearly you don't know about "rope-a-dope", do you? Ali survived tremendous punishment from the incredibly powerful Foreman, wearing him down to beat him at the "Rumble in the Jungle". Ali had 100 pounds on Lee. Size DOES matter.
Anyone who says otherwise is a liar or a fool. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 4:49:27 PM |
He was an incredible fighter and film makers knew that would draw people in to see him in a movie. His fame was long before pictures.
That is not accurate. Bruce did not fight professionally. No one knew who he was until his first film hit.
Ahhhhhhh, I did a simple google search, wikipedia wrote: Lee also competed in many martial arts competitions around the world winning every one almost flawlessly, defeating internationally known martial artists from many different countries.
..and yes, he was a professional, fighting was his profession.
Size DOES matter.
applies to women, not in martial arts
Clearly you don't know about "rope-a-dope"
I seem to now know what a dope is | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 8:04:58 PM | This thread kind of reminds me of the new Spike tv show the Deadliest Warrior.. maybe those computer dudes can punch all that stuff into their programs and tell us who would win...
I'd go with Bruce...
do not under estimate your opponet...
my vision on how the fight goes down...
Lee and Ali face off against each other...Ali throws jab,lee avoids it,kicks to the knee..Ali mad that he has been kicked,Lee kicks the other knee runs behind Ali,climbs Alis' back and grabs a rear naked choke,Ali passes out.The End
anyone else want to share their senario with us. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 8:56:01 PM | ^^^ sounds like a comic book
I could see it this way. They shake hands and Lee realizes just how tall and big Ali is.
Bell rings "ding" Ali taunts Lee saying "is this the toothpick I am supposed to fight"
Round starts Ali dances around seeing what Lee has. Lee tries to kick Ali and Ali says I need some bug repellent please. I just got a Miskito bite. Lee hits Ali with a couple of good hits and Ali is still waiting for the best that he has. Ali cell phone goes off on the side line. So he gives Lee a right to his head. Knocks it clear off and into the stands. Ali answers the phone. Wife says; will you be home for dinner. Ali says on my way now and this was the easiest money I ever made. | |
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| Muhammad Ali v Bruce Lee
Posted: 5/17/2009 11:37:55 PM | | I beat a guy 70 pounds heavier than me and jumped me from behind while I was at a water fountain.....think Bruce could handle the size disadvantage. Sorry Ali, have tons of respect for who you are but Bruce would take you down | |
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