| Military to Run UK Schools
Posted: 5/8/2009 6:13:18 AM |
By Kirsty Walker
Last updated at 1:57 AM on 08th May 2009
The Armed Forces will be drafted in to run state schools under plans to drive up discipline and respect in classrooms.
Ministers are in talks with defence chiefs about taking over a handful of schools and turning them into military academies.
Alongside daily lessons, pupils would be expected to take part in activities such as drills, uniformed parades, weapons handling and adventure training.
The first state schools set to gain 'military academy' status are understood to be based in Portsmouth and Colchester.
The controversial scheme will initially be in areas where there are a large number of military families, but is set to be rolled out across the country.
Full article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1178508/Right-fall-line-orrible-little-pupils-Government-wants-military-run-state-schools.html
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| Military to Run UK Schools
Posted: 5/8/2009 6:40:28 AM | I guess the suicide rate for teenagers is not high enough in the UK? So they are going to try to suck the life out of them. I am even against school uniforms, let along drills and uniformed parades!
Although the weapons handling and adventure training sound like a good thing to me.
and maybe some meditation.
Sounds like they are anticipating a civil war of sorts. I guess they are starting around military bases to whip into shape those military brats? | |
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| Military to Run UK Schools
Posted: 5/8/2009 9:56:03 AM | The program is Britain's answer to failing schools. They have a charter system, but unlike ours, it allows failing schools to apply to become a "military academy", which allows the MoD to provide funds. In order to become a Miltary Academy, the school has to apply for it. No school is being forced to apply.
The school that is about to become the first school to participate in this program is The Duke of York's Royal Military School in Dover.
From the link in the OP
The sources also stressed that no pupil would be forced to take part in any activity against their will.
One said: 'This is not about teaching pupils to shoot people. The Armed Forces can be a force for good in our schools and teach important skills including teamwork and respect.' | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 11:58:09 AM | | At least the UK is doing something about their lack of discipline and respect rather than politicizing it into being okay like we do here in America. Might seem a little extreme in practice, but I support the idea behind it. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 12:02:37 PM | We need to look back in history on how dangerous is it to indoctrinate young people into a military mindset.
They may not be "Forced" to take part in anything.
But then peer pressure comes into play.........
This I dislike very much.
They may learn discipline, but they will also learn how to obey........ | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 12:16:14 PM | The Hitler youth had become good little obedient tools that believed in everything they were told by their masters in the Government.
I wonder.... Do they even allow home schooling in England?
So this is the English government's answer(Military school) to it's own failed public school systems.....
What type of parenting restrictions do they have in England?
I know there is some sort of UN parenting treaty out there that would ban time outs!(And the good old USA may sign onto it soon)
No wonder every new generation is worse then the one before it. The parents hands get tied tighter and tighter......
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Posted: 5/8/2009 12:20:47 PM | Well I don't think it's all that bad of an idea... bare with me here folks.
Although I don't have the facts, direct links, or published information on this.... but I am pretty sure that the Taliban are running Muslim summer schools (all year long) for little boys to learn how to become human boobs for their cause. EDIT.... that's bombs not boobs....LOL one track mind!
Maybe Britain is looking out for itself for the long run? | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 12:24:30 PM | | Most people In the school system world wide could use with more discipline as could most adults for that matter | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 12:34:59 PM | Wow...I guess conscription is such a bad word that they had to come up with a newer way to get people signed up to the military eh? So yea, let's let the military take over some "bad" schools, turn them around, shape them up, brainwash them to obedience, and soon as they graduate they'll sign up.
Wow...this has FAIL written all over it.
You wanna get a hold of the unruly? Make it possible for corporal punishment to be administered in schools and in the home and you'll be fine.
The military angle is like hitting a nail with an atomic bomb. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 1:04:01 PM | | I love the way its the kids in the US who have a lack of discipline. their parents just mortgaged their and elected a complete idiot who got us into two wars and blew thru $2 trillion doing it. talk about lack of discipline. | |
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| Military to Run UK Schools
Posted: 5/8/2009 3:14:35 PM |
We need to look back in history on how dangerous is it to indoctrinate young people into a military mindset.
They may not be "Forced" to take part in anything.
But then peer pressure comes into play.........
This I dislike very much.
They may learn discipline, but they will also learn how to obey........
I definitely understand your concern here. But if you look at the state of today's youth, many of them are not getting the necessary teachings of these skills from any other place.
America could really use something like this. Although possibly tweaked a bit. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 4:56:42 PM | My grandson was in the high school band and finds it unchallenging.....he found ROTC that demands discipline and challenges...incentives to better themselves as they are striving for a goal. He wants to go to West Point one day and become a medical officer..
Better to have a goal while your young then to be too relaxed and become a slacker for the rest of you life. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2009 8:34:38 AM | Doesn't America have military schools? Pretty sure I saw an episode of the Simpons where Bart and Lisa get sent off to one.
We need to look back in history on how dangerous is it to indoctrinate young people into a military mindset.
They may not be "Forced" to take part in anything.
But then peer pressure comes into play.........
This I dislike very much.
They may learn discipline, but they will also learn how to obey.....
Next they'll be taught to say a pledge of allegiance to the UK in the schools : then they'll hang the Union Jack at the schools , and get the children to salute it when they see it. Where will it end? | |
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| Military to Run UK Schools
Posted: 5/9/2009 8:38:48 AM | In reply to the above message-
Yup! Adolf had great success with military indoctrinated schools right across the channel from you Brits.
I can just imagine how the young people would have embraced this idea back in the 1960's......(Idea of military run school system)
Wait....Most of that hippy generation has since sold themselves out! | |
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Posted: 5/9/2009 10:44:14 AM | taking over a handful of schools and turning them into military academies This is only about the military 'taking over a handful of schools' not all of the schools in the UK. It will be an experiment, and if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But, I see no reason not to let them try. Lots of kids would actually function better in a more restricted, diciplined environment. Kids don't function well without parameters, and often the kids they are dealing with have no guidance and discipline from home and family environments. I doubt it's going to drive up the suicide rate. If this is something that can help, why not give it a chance? | |
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Posted: 5/9/2009 10:59:47 AM | America Indocternates in public school real well. All public school childeran are forcefed the humanistic liberal junk regardless of what thier parents are trying to teach and instill into them.
Most of the men in my family are military. And all are very good critical thinkers. I doubt a military school is nessesarily gonna turn out robots. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2009 2:52:13 PM | Personally I don't see anything wrong with the British military taking running a few schools. I wish more schools in the US would want to find a way of instilling discipline even though I consider many JROTC/ROTC programs a joke.
Military upbringing doesn't create mindless automatons. I have realized ever since my freshman year (current senior) that the military mindset has forced me to think more than I ever have. I think more about politics, international affairs, policy applications, and tactics. The traditional military "do what you are told" mindset started to die after Vietnam although the Marines still hold onto it dearly.
Discipline is not always about drilling and uniforms. It goes much deeper than that. | |
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