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 comfort123

Joined: 3/29/2009
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Posted: 5/10/2009 5:48:34 AM
More and more TV shows are portraying women as bimbos, lacking any depth but merely superficial impersonal sexual objects who are inordinately self-centered, entitled, demanding, contemptuous and completely oblivious to the feelings and needs of others! Whether it be the Cougar, She's Got the Looks, Bridezilla, Tough Love and a host of other programs, the bottomline is that in spite of all the protestations on the part of many women that they wish to be treated as equals and as feminists, in fact these programs perpetuate the stereotypical image that many women are dumb broads with pretty faces and sexy bodies who are open to be treated by men as sexual objects, not equal partners in a relationship. Unfortunately the fact is that these shows are being aired because there is a large segment of women who watch and enjoy them. So what does this imply regarding the capability of many of todays women being able to enter into and sustaining meaningful relationships with men? IMO, not a good prognosis!
 readyornot57

Joined: 1/19/2008
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Posted: 5/10/2009 5:56:44 AM
I do not watch much TV, but sadly, life imitates art.....also in teen shows on MTV and shows such as "The Apprentice"..............when we are exposed to so much obnoxious behavior every day, it is hard to believe that people also want to watch it on TV.
 beershark

Joined: 3/30/2009
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Posted: 5/10/2009 5:58:01 AM
I don't think there is anything humble about your opinion. In fact it seems you think quite highly of it. If you don't like what is on, turn it off. If you don't like "bimbos". don't date them. If you want to preach about the lack of quality in television, well that's been going For as long as the technology has exsisted.
 Jim978

Joined: 7/15/2008
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Posted: 5/10/2009 5:58:26 AM
Pffft! Interesting to note that all of the examples you give are "Reality" shows. The TV programs aren't "portraying" those women as anything. The women are portraying themselves.

And how does it compare to shows like "Married With Children", "According to Jim" or a host of others where the guy is always portrayed as an inept buffoon?


So what does this imply regarding the capability of many of todays women being able to enter into and sustaining meaningful relationships with men?


It doesn't imply anything.
 desert wildflower

Joined: 6/4/2008
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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:04:55 AM
I`ve noticed it too. But it is somewhat unrealistic. It seems as if in the last 10 years, this
required stereotypical glamourization of women has really raised the bar, and a whole lot of stress for women. But on TV, all they do is dwell on the looks, and the gold digging aspect of the women. Men start believeing that all women are this way and they aren`t, and end up looking at them much as comodities. I mean really, if you aren`t under 40, drop dead gorgeous, sexy body with a nice rack,why even leave home? No one will even bother with you.

In the real world, most women do take care of themselves financially and don`t view life in this way. However, now we are supposed to look young, thin, and beautiful 24/7 or we aren`t even considered a viable candidate to even get a date. So men have these unrealistic expectations when it comes to how women are supposed to look, and can have a pretty sour attitude when it comes to chivalry and dating , because of this unreal vixen bytch attitude which is often portrayed.
 oldsoul

Joined: 3/10/2007
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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:10:25 AM
I shut my TV years ago - literally. I've never seen one episode of I love Raymond or Desperate Housewives or any of the newer reality shows.

Women were always portrayed as bimbos in (most) sitcoms and specially in commercials (ohhh...look how white my clothes are...my womanhood is validated and I now have a reason to live)...*gag me with a spoon*....it's nothing new. And now men are complaining of the same thing "we" complained about for years but that too is nothing new.

My solution? Shut or throw away your TV, or at the very least, be very selective of the programs you do watch.

Boycott the products that have stupid commercials depicting men or women as bumbling idiots and the programs/network they promote - let them both know of your "protest".

Lastly, try not to take any of it too seriously - anyone who lets themselves be influenced by what's on TV needs to take a breath of fresh air IMO - I don't care what anyone says - our sense of wo/manhood and/or reality does not (and should not) come from an "idiot's box" NOR be affected or destroyed by it, unless a person closely resembles the first part of it's nickname perhaps, but that's another story:)



JMO
 comfort123

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:11:12 AM
beershark, nothing humble about your opinion either!

In fact characterizations of women and men on TV programs and films do impact on the behavior and attitudes of many and can influence their interpersonal relationships.

BTW, have you given any thought about going on the Jerry Springer Show? Based on your profile and photos you would fit perfectly!
 *~*ChardyGirl*~*

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:12:05 AM
I just shake my head,laugh and am gob-smacked at some of these ridiculous women on tv.........

Cant believe the number of women who are happy to present themselves THIS way on national television...........
I mean,they cant really be this way in real life.........can they??

And,id hope the majority of men see the humour in these shows and think the women are just as ridiculous and that they're NOT representative of the normal,sane,intelligent women who exist in the real world.
 KISS MY A$$

Joined: 9/6/2008
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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:12:31 AM
Having 4 daughters I would say that most young woman realizes these shows are scripted and a joke. A young woman reared with an ounce of dignity can see through the gryrations and other antics of these woman as self depreciating behaviour.

It implies nothing if you had a good Mommy....

Happy Mother's Day!!!!!
 Arabianangel

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:16:01 AM

Pffft! Interesting to note that all of the examples you give are "Reality" shows. The TV programs aren't "portraying" those women as anything. The women are portraying themselves.


Well said Jim!

 comfort123

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:20:44 AM
Jim978, yes "...the women are portraying themselves" on these shows BUT these programs are obviously tapping on some instrinsic need of a number of women to perceive themselves as super hot, entitled, unempathic and out-of-touch bimbos! If there was no interest in these programs or big money to be made from them these shows by sponsors these shows would not be aired! It is as straightforward as that.

In terms of the impact of these programs and films on many womens' attitudes and behavior in fact it has a strong influence in the way many act, relate and respond in relationships due to the stereotypical image they are attempting to emulate. We can not summarily discount these shows as not having any influence just as violent oriented cartoons negatively impact on young childrens' behavior.
 desert wildflower

Joined: 6/4/2008
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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:30:24 AM
Most of these shows are filmed in SoCal, and I hate to tell ya folks, but there are a whole lot of women out here that act this way. No fooling. It is so extreme and ridiculous. And you know what? I could have gone out last night to a lounge and found 10 of them just like it in real life, in the course of 30 minutes. I think this is something pretty exclusive to So Cal, and the show producers know it is extreme, ridiculous and therefore makes really good ratings.
 comfort123

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:30:31 AM
desert wildflower, the same stereotyping phenomena occurs with men whereby the ideal attractive male is depicted on films and TV shows as having rippling muscles (obviously enhanced by ergogenic substances), extreme good looks and dozens of women flocking to him, dying to get him to bed! In fact many male viewers of these films and shows are influenced and feel devalued because they don't measure up to these Hollywood concocted male ideals.
 oldsoul

Joined: 3/10/2007
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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:31:53 AM
We can not summarily discount these shows as not having any influence just as violent oriented cartoons negatively impact on young childrens' behavior.


I disagree. Society/humanity was violent long before violent cartoons came on the scene. I mean seriously...!



Recommended reading: a history book or two, the bible (specially the old testament;)

 beershark

Joined: 3/30/2009
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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:33:43 AM
It's funny a person that is so distraught over the current condition lack of quality entertainment, should be so familiar with it. As for profile reviews, you the fck asked your opinion anyway? Tell you what, let's turn mine and yours in to the site moderators and see whose gets rejected.

" very impressive critique of the bottomline regarding those posters who resort to negative psychologizing other posters in order to devalue them personally with the fallacious intent of negating the crediblity of their positions on issues such as those on this thread."
Do those words sound familiar? They should. They're yours.

TV as entertainment is no more than that. Anyone that allows themselves to be influenced by what they watch has other problems.Some people believe Rock and Roll causes violent behaviour, doesn't make it true.
 Jim978

Joined: 7/15/2008
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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:36:11 AM

Jim978, yes "...the women are portraying themselves" on these shows BUT these programs are obviously tapping on some instrinsic need of a number of women to perceive themselves as super hot, entitled, unempathic and out-of-touch bimbos!


Where is the evidence that people watch these shows based on "some instrinsic need of a number of women to perceive themselves as super hot, entitled, unempathic and out-of-touch bimbos"? Most of the people I know that watch those sorts of programs do so to mock the people. They aren't interested in following their lead. They are laughing at them!


In terms of the impact of these programs and films on many womens' attitudes and behavior in fact it has a strong influence in the way many act, relate and respond in relationships due to the stereotypical image they are attempting to emulate. We can not summarily discount these shows as not having any influence just as violent oriented cartoons negatively impact on young childrens' behavior.


Oh please... Don't compare poor parenting of children with with adult behavior. Who's fault is it if your kid believes that an imaginary coyote can actually order bombs from the Acme Explosives Company,have them delivered via courier within minutes and actually use them?
 comfort123

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:39:08 AM
Oldsoul, while you feel that these shows are meaningless many others apparently don't because these shows are appealing to large audiences of women and are obviously being sponsored with millions of dollars in order to sell all sorts of feminine products and services. In fact I don't believe these shows and films are not congruent with many women's covert wish or fantasy to be bimbos even if it does not mesh with who they really are as women.

However what is very revealing by these numerous shows that perpetuate the bimbo image of women is that with all the protests and ranting by numerous women about being equals they have not done absolutely anything to dispel these negative images by appealing to these TV stations to not air such demeaning and devaluing programs. In short their silence regarding this matter is equivalent to acquiescence!
 Jim978

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:41:35 AM


However what is very revealing by these numerous shows that perpetuate the bimbo image of women is that with all the protests and ranting by numerous women about being equals they have not done absolutely anything to dispel these negative images by appealing to these TV stations to not air such demeaning and devaluing programs. In short their silence regarding this matter is equivalent to acquiescence!


Or they simply disagree with your assessment of what these shows are about...
 comfort123

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:43:10 AM
strawbs09, unfortunately many women in real life dress, act, relate and behave like bimbos so when many men watch these shows it serves to reinforce the stereotypical images that they percieve from their personal experiences.
 Arpeggia

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:44:05 AM
There would be a reason I don't have a tv along with the fact your pay good money to watch the same thing over and over and over and over and over..

Arp
 oldsoul

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:45:46 AM
OP...I can't give you a proper reply as I'm going to my daughter's place for a Mother's Day breakfast - I'll be back later with my arguments ...err...I mean...my opinions:)



 *motown*cowgirl*

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:49:26 AM
these stupid television shows are taking up space on the airwaves precisely because there enough stupid people out there who really like to watch them. i think that says everything about said people (women AND men, but by no means all of them) and their ability to enter into and sustain meaningful relationships. it takes 2 to tango.
 Marial92

Joined: 3/25/2009
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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:49:31 AM
comfort,

first off everything on t.v. has been done over and over and over ever since t.v. came into existance. so, there's nothing new going on here.

ever since the technology of t.v., there have always been t.v. shows that have put women down and portrayed them as the little woman, the bimbo and such.

but, in the real world, women don't have anything to prove anymore. women have raised children singlehandely, been the sole supporter of their households, hold positions in the work force and in government that were once only held by men. women now such as myself, purchase their own homes, buy their own vehicles without the input of a man, are extremely credit conscience and have their own bank rolls as well.

though it is a shame that women have been poorly and unfairly portrayed on t.v. media they have nonetheless risen above all that have come against them and have many times over put many men to shame.

though much of the junk on t.v. is watched by many, one has to realize that it is used as a form of entertainment and it's crap. so, we all have the choice to either watch it and believe it or simply change the channel as i do.

also, the young ladies on t.v. that go along with being demeaned and used as sexual objects and such are young and stupid at best....they're simply a bunch of dumb ****es that in time will grow up and when they turn around and realized how stupid they looked i'm sure they'll sink inside from shear embarassemnt of how they humiliated themselves. just think, for them it's all for the money and the 15 minutes of fame so to speak that they do this crap in the first place other than the fact that they're just plain immature.

i remember in my younger days, yes....it was all about the body, the face, being slender, sticking your boobs out to attract guys just for the attention that it got me....but now, life is different and boy, if i only realized then just how stupid it all was....it was nothing but shear vanity and seeking out some type of confirmation that i was hot, sizzling and desirable. today that all means nothing because i've lived a full and successful life and one that i am very proud of. so in essence, i just grew up, out and away from all of that foolishness that i once craved and woke up for.

so in answer to your question of "what does this imply regarding the capability of many of todays women being able to enter into and sustaining meaningful relationships with men" ....... I would have to say that there is no real implication here.

life is what you make it and while we're young we do some pretty stupid things so now that i'm all grown up, i also have the intellect, life experience and maturity of a real woman to realize that what these same young ladies are doing now on t.v. doesn't necessarily mean that they won't wake up as they grow older and mature and become women that become true contributors to society, and also become wonderful loving mothers and wives and powerful women in business that truly run and shape this world we live in.
 ItsMargo

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:52:24 AM
Eh, I think the majority are laughing at the subjects in the shows; it makes them feel good.

Now, if your point was this dehumanizes us, and where are we going as a human race where a prime source of our entertainment is the ridiculing of others I would see your concern.

As it is, I would imagine raising awareness of bimbo behaviour actually acts as a deterrent.
 comfort123

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Posted: 5/10/2009 6:53:25 AM
beershark first of all you may feel "distraught" by the "current condition but that is not my issue. So speak for yourself. I merely broached a topic of interest and you came on offensively like a gangbuster and personalized the issue and now behave as if an innocent bystander who is being "manhandled". Sorry my friend, I merely responded in a jocular manner. If you are so hyper-sensitive (crying:) resulting in your culling my previous assertions to fallaciously prove how "hurt" you are then treat others with the same regard as you wish them to do to you!

BTW, if you are so distraught by my thread please do not read my posts or respond beause you are derailing this thread. It is as simple as that.
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