| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 1:37:07 AM | | how many non smokers would date someone who smokes and if not why do so few tick the must not smoke in the who can contact me box. I smoke and wouldn't contact someone who had non smoker in their profile but nearly all the people I know who smoke have non smoking partners. So am I right in thinking girls won't get involved with smokers if they don't themselves? | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 1:42:22 AM | I am a smoker and have dated non smokers.Not sure what to tell you really.I respect non smokers.My bf's that have been non smokers have been nothing but sweet but got thier nasty digs in about me smoking.
Its always been a give and take situation for me.Guess I have been lucky with who I go out with. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 1:48:00 AM | | Is this something that varies depending where you live too, America seems to have been anti smoking for longer than the UK but in some european countries smokers still far outnumber those who don't. So is there a bit of how society views my partner in this issue too. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 2:03:05 AM | | Coming from a place where smoking is just about banned everywhere and now even looking at banning it at beaches (Perth, Australia) I find being around a smoker difficult. I remember visiting Canada in 1998 and people inside restaurants and cafe's were allowed to smoke, this was very unpleasant. I much prefer the clean air environment and I would not date a smoker. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 2:13:14 AM | I have been with non-smokers. It depends on the persons involved. Some guys like to think they can change or control me, or deny the fact that I smoke. (Won't work.)
Other people can accept the fact that I smoke, and will come outside with me or sit on a bench with me, etc. and we chat. No biggie.
Depends on how rigid some people are.
Edgar Cayce said that Up to 8 cigarettes a day is not harmful. (Back in the day before filters, etc.) Hey, it's just a frikkin' plant!! The danger is in the papers.
But, some people hate the smell because of the social stygma.
Nuff said... | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 3:02:11 AM | | I have the "must not smoke" boxed marked off. I have never dated a smoker and never will. I am allergic to smoke. I myself have never smoked and won't be trying it. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 4:10:54 AM | I have the "must not smoke" thing selected. I smoked for 20+ years and it never bothered me. Now that I've quite (going on 11 years now  ), I can't stand to be around it, especially where there are several smokers in the room - at the bar, at a party, whereever. To me, it just stinks.
But when outdoors, there are times when I'll get a whiff of someone's cigarette and the craving kicks in (still) and I'll want to grab that thing and smoke it myself. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 5:15:29 AM | Sure...if the smoker respects the non-smokers space.
Personally,I wouldn't date somebody who complained about not being able to smoke in my home or my car.
And I would not date a woman that "lit one w/ one" as that's waaayyyy too much smoking for my tastes.
If there's respect on both sides...like anything else,it'll work. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 7:00:06 AM | Being a person who is extremely allergic to smoke to the point it will trigger an asthma attack. I will not date someone who smokes. The other problem I have with people that smoke is you smell not so good. *sorry not intended to be mean*. The smell clings to everything and I really hate going to stores where people stand outside the doors and smoke. The entrance way smells like an ashtray and it is gross not to mention by the time you fight your way through the cloud of smoke I'm back to the asthma thing again.
Slightly off topic: I applaud Perth for it's stand on banning smoking on the beaches. I have gone to beaches before (Maumee Bay State Park and Destin Beach) and immediately left because it stunk like an ashtray and every where you look you had butts stubbed out in the sand. There was no place I felt I could set my tots down to play and dig in the sand with out them digging in a huge ashtray. Very gross.
Arp
oops should have added to this before I got sidetracked. I have "must not smoke" ticked off on my profile and I would say that over half the people that view my profile are smokers, same goes for other relationships, married, blah blah blah. Filters do not work to well here. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 7:07:53 AM | | I could never date/kiss a smoker. I just can't do it. I cringe at the thought of the overall health deterioration with every puff :( | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 8:01:47 AM | I've dated non-smokers and yes it can work - if you both have some mutual respect and she doesn't mind it. I'm respectful of a non-smokers desire not to breathe in my second hand smoke so I keep it away. I was in a 1 yr relationship with a woman who didn't smoke and she never harped on it - I'd go outside to smoke as her rule was not in her apartment. My reason for ending it had nothing to do with my smoking and her not smoking either. We got on quite well for the most part. She just had some other issues that I couldn't see myself being able to deal with in the longer term.
I think it takes some mutual respect and understanding. It takes someone who's values and principles aren't set in stone and concrete.
I mean the way some people act about smokers is quite silly to me. Sometimes I feel like we may as well be heroin junkies with aids or something to these people who are so absurd about it. That's just silly. I've even seen alcohol cause more immediate devastation in a person's life than smoking ever would / did. In the long term though, yes it can kill (just not as quickly as Booze or Drugs do).
I'd be more hesitant to date someone who drinks because "social drinking" could really mean "alcoholic". Alcoholism and drug addiction cause more immediate un-manageability and wreckage. People don't lose a job or nearly kill anyone else driving because they smoke a cigarette. The alcoholic never knows he / she is one themselves which is the denial of the disease of addiction. They just believe their life is perfectly okay.
It's a nasty habit, even I admit, but like any addiction - I won't stop until I'm ready ("tried" to "quit" 3 times already - I'm just not ready - didn't want it enough yet). It's definitely an addiction, otherwise I'd just stop. Like any addiction - nobody else is going to make me quit either, it never works like that. I have to want to for me.
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 8:10:56 AM | It's not that I contentiously would choose someone who smokes, since it's my preference to date non-smokers. However, one guy I did casually meet from POF said only smoked while he drank in social settings. Turns out upon further questioning, he smokes daily and a lot. He did not smoke around me since I expressed that I did not like it.
It all boils down to compromise and respect. We all have our boundaries.
edit: Somehow though, there's always that smoky aftertaste during kissing that I don't like and the smell lingers on their skin and hair, so again, it's still a nasty habit that I'd encourage anyone to try and quit. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 8:23:21 AM | | It depends on the girl. If she values having a relationship more than she cares about him smoking then it's not a problem. Of the people I know that smoke, all the smoking males have smoking female partners. Of the smoking females, their partners don't smoke but don't seem to mind. It seems to matter less for men if their partner smokes or not. YMMV. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 10:43:36 AM | I can't believe this wasn't deleted for being a way too redundant thread. Guess the mods were asleep at the switch!
I'm a non-smoker. I don't hate people who smoke, but I do hate the second hand smoke, the smell, the thousands of cigarette butts that litter the lawns where I live, the empty packs thrown in the parking lot (you carried it around full, when it was heavier. can't make it to the trash can with an empty pack to toss it?), my sinus infections from second hand smoke, my sore throat, sore nose, weepy eyes, the smoke that seeps into my apartment from the people below me who smoke and having to walk through clouds of smoke to get into a building that's no smoking because the ash tray is right outside the entrance.
So, if you're a smoker and considerate of other people and the environment, good for you. If you're one who thinks the world is their ashtray, I hope you get written for littering. Think how much money states are missing out on by not ticketing those folks who think it's perfectly ok to toss that butt out the car window, or empty their ashtray at traffic lights.
I'll probably get bashed six ways to Sunday for what I've written. If you're truly one of those considerate smokers who doesn't engage in littering, etc., more power to you. Remember that everyone is entitled not only to their opinions, but clean air in their living environment. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 10:52:04 AM | | I don't think I would date a non smoker. It isn't really the fact that they don't smoke, but rather that the non smokers I have meant seem to be a lot more judgemental about everything than smokers. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 11:19:35 AM | Smokers, (like myself) as almost any non-smoker you attempt to date will surely tell you... are dirty filthy ignorant disgustingly wretched degenerate self-destructive anti-puritanical nonconformist sluts, so,
I would think not. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 1:33:09 PM |
how many non smokers would date someone who smokes and if not why do so few tick the must not smoke in the who can contact me box. I smoke and wouldn't contact someone who had non smoker in their profile but nearly all the people I know who smoke have non smoking partners. So am I right in thinking girls won't get involved with smokers if they don't themselves?
I have kissed a few ask trays in my days. I didn't like the taste, and a few times I pushed a mint from my mouth to theirs. One female spit it out and said it was disgusting, and I shouldn't have done it. Never mind the fact that astray mouth is 10 times more disgusting, but what confused me the most is that she sucked half my tongue down her throat, and then complained that I slipped a mint from my mouth to hers. I think that smokers and non smokers can live in harmony with some rules. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 1:51:56 PM | I will not date a smoker no matter how gorgeous they are. Kissing a smoker is like licking an ashtry. They taste and smell bad. Plus there is the second hand smoke issue. I am allergic to smoke and when I am around it, I have breathing issues, even if they don't smoke around me. It is on their clothes, in their hair, in their car and in their skin. I have never understood why people want to slowly kill themselves and infect others as they do. That is just mean and selfish.
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 2:05:20 PM | | I grew up with smokers in my family and extended family. Neither I nor my siblings smoke. I once had a few dates with someone who claimed to smoke 'occasionally', and occasionally to her meant a pack a day! Needless to say after 2 dates that was that. Well, showing up at my house drunk helped cement it as well. I'm not a drinker, either. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 2:06:47 PM |
I would sex a smoker, but not date one. -- I confess, I've tolerated a few smokers in my life -- mainly because the bootie was good! That was 2o years ago though -- smoking takes a toll on a person's appearance (besides tasting nasty). In general, you can see an amazing difference in appearance in people who smoke when they reach their 40s and 50s. Of course, genetics comes into play, so it helps when you compare them to their siblings (or other family members) who don't smoke. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 2:12:00 PM | | I'm a non-smoker, but would certainly date a smoker; particularly if she possessed other attributes that outweighed the negative of being a smoker. | |
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| smokers and non smokers can they get on
Posted: 5/23/2009 2:24:35 PM | I think it was rightly pointed out that the non-smokers do seem to be a lot more judgemental than smokers.
To those that say why should smokers kill those around them with their second hand smoke......do you drive a car with it's exhaust pollution??
have you ever used a mobile phone while driving risking killing someone instantly. Have you ever had a drink and driven.
Non of us are perfect and so really we should be able to tolerate some bad habits in others.
I think in general though smokers ought to date smokers only | |
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