| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 6:28:25 AM | This was a horrific attack on a child, and there happened to a surveillance camera in the area - the attacker was pretty clearly seen on that. After the pictures were released, the suspect was chased down and beaten by people who recognized him - in fact, there were reports that people in the neighborhood saw his pictures, knew who he was, and were looking for him. Personally, I'm not surprised - the victim was an 11 year old girl, and the attack was so vicious she required surgery and is still in the hospital. There haven't been any rumblings yet of charging the men who captured the accused rapist - in fact, quite the opposite, I've heard some reports that there is a possibility they will receive the $10,000 reward that was offered. However, I'm wondering if the tune will change, should the suspect die - he is in critical condition. What do you think???
Child rape 'person of interest' to be charged Tuesday, June 02, 2009 | 11:41 PM
-- Police have arrested the man identified as a person of interest in the rape of an 11-year-old girl in Port Richmond on Monday morning.
Jose Carrasquillo, 26, was taken into custody on Tuesday afternoon in the vicinity of Front and Clearfield Streets.
Surveillance video obtained by Action News shows Carrasquillo walking on Front Street when residents spot him. They recognized him from photos put out by Philadelphia Police.
The residents then pummel him to the ground. Carrasquillo lies motionless until an officer spots the beating. As more officers arrive, the crowd breaks up.
Carrasquillo received numerous head injuries and was transported to Temple Hospital in critical condition.
Sources tell Action News that residents cheered police and high-fived each other when they showed up to arrest Carrasquillo.
Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey says Carrasquillo has more than a dozen convictions. He was also previously arrested for a sex crime, but Action News is told the victim did not want to press charges.
His family says he just got out of prison two months ago, after serving six years behind bars.
Investigators are also looking to see if Carrasquillo is involved in other rapes.
Carrasquillo is wanted for Contempt of Court on a Summary Offense. There has been no arrest warrant issued for him in association with the rape.
However, police say they have enough evidence to convict him, and expect to charge him by Tuesday morning.
This all began around 8:30 a.m. Monday.
Police say the 11-year-old girl had just dropped off her sister at daycare and was heading to school when the her attacker approached her in the 3000 block of Kensington Avenue.
"At some point in time [he] threatened to shoot her, but a gun was not seen," said Capt. John Darby. "He threatened her and forced her to walk with him."
The two ended up in the 2000 block of E. Westmoreland. That's where, police say, the man forced the girl behind a home and raped her repeatedly.
"At some point in time either he flees or she's able to get away," said Capt. Darby.
The girl was able to flag down a passerby, who called police.
Police said earlier in the day that physical evidence ties Carrasquillo to a dirty backyard where the child was "sadistically" assaulted.
The Fraternal Order of Police had announced a $10,000 reward for an arrest in this case.
This announcement comes after Philadelphia Police released surveillance pictures, which captured a person of interest near the scene of the rape. It is unclear if police believe Carrasquillo to be the man caught on camera.
The young victim underwent surgery Monday afternoon. She is now in stable condition. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 6:31:24 AM | good for them !!! 
i hope they took out his front teeth so everytime he looks in the mirror he remembers why hes forced to gumming his food.
That SOB is lucky he got away with his life. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 6:35:43 AM | ^^^ a civilized society would not have 11 year old girls raped.
and a lot of rapists, end up back on the streets.
to me a sign of a civilzed society is how we treat our children, and we are doing a miserable job in my opinion.
I hope the poor victim of this vigilante justice does not die, untill he is sent to prison for this crime. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 6:42:43 AM |
This was a horrific attack on a child, and there happened to a surveillance camera in the area - the attacker was pretty clearly seen on that. After the pictures were released, the suspect was chased down and beaten by people who recognized him
No a person of intrest was shown on video tape...
If I were shown on that tape in the area, how does that make me the attacker?
thats why everbody bum rushed him...they assumed that if he were in the area, and on tv, he must have committed the crime.
is he inocent/ not guilty I dont know...but niether did the police or the mob...thats for a jury to decide.
I have a feeling, the police are going to be forced to indict the People that were caught on tape betting this person...only to make the statement...You cant go round beating people cuz you think they are guilty... | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 6:58:22 AM |
^^^ a civilized society would not have 11 year old girls raped.
and a lot of rapists, end up back on the streets.
to me a sign of a civilzed society is how we treat our children, and we are doing a miserable job in my opinion.
I hope the poor victim of this vigilante justice does not die, untill he is sent to prison for this crime.
If you can find a sure fire way that will prevent all crime of any kind, then I'm all for it, but I would suggest that there is no way that all crime will ever stop because humans, by nature, are greedy, lazy, and mean individuals who will do anything that it takes to get what they want. (I am not saying that we can not get past this nature, but this is who we are.)
The true question of a civilized society is how we deal with those who have gone astray of what society has deemed as a crime. Putting together a posse with pitchforks and torches to lynch or beat up a person who is suspected of a crime is not only illegal according to the laws the land, but also speaks volumes towards the backwards thinking that takes place in many people's minds. There is a reason why the laws of a civilized society are set up as they are. I believe that it was Hobbes who stated that man can not judge crimes against himself or his property for his judgment will always be flawed by bias and by emotion. This is why we have set up a court system in order tojudge those who we believe have done wrong against us and our property that runs by the thought that every person is innocent until proven guilty.
If we truly wanted to return to the days of vigilante justice, just bear this in mind. In the early part of the 20th century, a main part of vigilante justice was the lynching of black people, always found guilty by the end of a rope and not a certified person in a black robe. I'm sure in 2001 that if vigilante justice were still in place that those black people would've been replaced by Muslims being found guilty by the end of a rope and notby a certified person in a black robe. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 7:35:02 AM | | SAguy - I tried to word my post very carefully, being mindful of "alleged" and "suspect" etc. However, I will say this...the child gave a description of the man, what he was wearing, etc. There was a drawing by a police artist. The attacker left/lost his glasses at the scene of the crime. All this was released on Monday...on Tuesday the tape which was taken in the vicinity of the crime was shown. The suspect (or person of interest) was wearing clothes as described by the child, matched the sketch, and had on the lost glasses. I don't think anyone would have come after you, had you been on the tape, because none of those factors would apply to you. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 7:42:12 AM |
No a person of intrest was shown on video tape...
The OP said that there was an attack and that there were cameras in the area. I take that as either the act was caught on tape, or he was the only one it could be due to the circumstances | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 7:44:01 AM | | This guy will probably get beat again in prison. Crimes agaisn't children are frowned upon even among thieves and murderers. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 8:08:50 AM | | There is a special level of hell for child rapists. That being said, there is no room in society for vigilante justice. It is pretty accepted that the guy that was 'captured' was the perpretrator, however, there is the slightest chance that this is the wrong guy. If so, 50 or so individuals beat an innocent man to within an inch of his life. Now what do you have? Worse yet, these guys went on camera telling TV reports 'Yeah, I kicked him in the head.' or 'I smashed him with a 2 x 4!' Face it, they just admitted to assault and battery! Now this douchebag - even if he IS GUILTY can SUE them! And has their confessions on tape! | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 9:35:48 AM | Some lawyer who wants a few bucks can make a great civil case here and get a great settlement!
The guy who got beaten just hit the jackpot, as far as making sure his family is cared for financially.
IF he did it....pertsonally, I figure the justice system should automatically dismaiss any civil suits by him, except in the case of gross negligence on the part of police, or, perhaps, a civilian who was "too vicious" in their attack. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 10:08:52 AM | It would be very unfortunate for an innocent man to be beaten badly because he fit the description of a suspected rapist as much as it is disturbing that citizens feel that it is appropriate to beat a suspected person at all, let alone without that person receiving a fair and unbiased trial by peers, as is prescribed by our laws, to prove his innocence or guilt.
That said, I believe that it is a sign of the times that people are fed up with such crimes and in my opinion, convicted pedophiles and rapists should be quickly put to death. Plain and simple! At least they would get due process as all citizens are entitled to. There is no rehabilitation of sexual predators, therefore they will never be safe neighbors and nobody wants them. Our young men and women give their lives freely to defend and protect this country, why then would it be so horrible a price to ask a convicted sexual offender to RISK when they are surely aware that the acts they commit are illegal and often scar their victims for life? Barbaric? Well, we're not cutting their heads off and distributing the video..........hmmm, yet! | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 10:25:57 AM |
See how civilized you are when it's your daughter that was raped.
as a Father, all bets are off...but I know I (I alone) will deal with the consequences of my actions. but I think I would wait till I knew they had the right guy... | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 11:02:29 AM | On the one hand I want to be one of those who becries the uncivilized nature of such vigilante justice.
But I also have young daughters and I guarantee you I would not sit on a throne of righteousness if it were one of my girls assaulted. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 11:31:29 AM |
as a Father, all bets are off...but I know I (I alone) will deal with the consequences of my actions. but I think I would wait till I knew they had the right guy
You say that like you'll be thinking rationally the whole time. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 11:47:51 AM | First off, why was an 11 year old girl responsible for a younger sibling and then walking by herself. Where were the parents?? Maybe this was ok 30 years ago but in today's age when people like this guy who got beat up are walking around, why on earth would the parents let her walk around by herself???
Secondly, two wrongs DO NOT make a right. I realize that the neighbors and community wanted to take action and the guy who hurt this girl deserves the severist of punishments... however it's not our job to decide who is guilty and who isn't before they've even been arrested and then decide whether or not to beat the guy within an inch of his life. What happens if this guy WASN'T the perp and these people just beat the hell out of a guy who was innocent of the crime?? I'm not saying he was..but how do we know?? I know what it's like to have someone in your family who's been attacked and I knew the attacker and I wanted blood. But that doesn't give me the right to go out and search him out and beat the hell out of him.
IF the guy who was attacked is found guilty of raping this girl and sent to prison again, great. And considering he has a record of doing the same in the past, I hope the prison laws finally do something with him. However, it won't surprise me in the least if the people who beat the crap out of him (and admitted it on tape) also get some time. I'm not going to feel all that sorry for them either. You commit a crime (assault and battery in this case) you do the time. Reasons behind the crime are irrelevant. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 11:56:31 AM | So wait a second here....this man who was beaten was a suspect right ? He wasn't actually tried and convicted of anything then ? Well colour me confused then but what the hell is wrong with people here congratulating the mob for administering vigilante justice ? They may not have even known if they were attacking the 'right' person. Secondly , that same mob doesn't actually know if the 'right' person was responsible for the attack. That's what courts are for.
Hey , at least now we know : Don't look like the wrong person or people will beat you to roars of applause. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 12:16:49 PM |
You say that like you'll be thinking rationally the whole time.
im the most rational person you know...
I cant speak for anyone else...but this is not about what would fathers do...
this is about neighbors...Im sorry to say If this happend to my neighbor, I would be outraged. Iwould be angry as hell...I would yelling at the top of my lungs for Justice, but I would not beat someone.
again as Her father...I can only speak for myself... | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 1:31:24 PM | | Hey, as long as the Mob caught the right guy, lay the boots to him and give the Mob the money. Worry about the Child's rights instead of the accused Rapist. Maybe giving the citizens a free pass in some of these cases might make some think twice before they commit these crimes, as we all know not much else works. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 1:53:25 PM | Hey, as long as the Mob caught the right guy, lay the boots to him and give the Mob the money. Worry about the Child's rights instead of the accused Rapist. Maybe giving the citizens a free pass in some of these cases might make some think twice before they commit these crimes, as we all know not much else works.
why u dont think the threat of going to jail for 1 year is a big enuff deterent for these scumbags, ya me neither. what they did was probably wrong, but good for them. iam so sick and tried of these **stards doing this crap to children and then getting a slap on the wrist, and then when society ( the same people that the courts are suppossed to protect from these sickos ) strike back, then they are the victims, only in america. | |
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| Child rapist - beaten by neighbors
Posted: 6/3/2009 2:03:28 PM | Golfer38,
Really ? Well consider this scenario then :
Oh....well in that case I accuse you of being a child-rapist. Now just wait ... the mob will arrive shortly. Hey...I accused you so therefore it must be true. No time for questions or verifying the story I tell ; Nope , we've got to lay the boots to you while nobody is around to insist that maybe , just maybe , it's an accusation I pulled out of thin air. The important thing is that you get your brains smashed all over the curb because somebody said you did something terrible. Maybe we'll stop at a beating...maybe we'll get gruesome so as to feel some sense of 'justice' and satisfaction at seeing your testicles ripped from your body and nailed to the roof of your mouth.
Actually , of course I'm not accusing you of really being a child-rapist. I'm trying to point out just what a stupid idea it is to applaud the actions of a mob whose actions are based on an accusation . That's all it is and if you really believe that it's smarter to let mobs mete out justice then you should pray to any god or gods you believe in that you don't ever happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time looking like somebody who might be a sexual predator.
That's the idea you're so ready to defend so remember to shrug your shoulders before the mob rips your arms away from them. Or maybe you might want to rethink your position before you fall victim to it. There's a reason we developed courts and justice systems and it has an awful lot to do with what we're talking about here in this thread.
Come to think of it , forget about somebody simply accusing you of some crime. Let's say it's your father or your son. Hell , why limit it to men ? Pick a family member. One of them is bound to resemble a child-rapist or abettorto said crime somewhere. You going to watch your family members or perhaps some good friends get torn apart by a mob of people who just think they've got the criminal in hand ?
Maybe this is actually a child-rapist. The point here isn't whether he's the guy or not , it's the fact that he was only wanted as "a person of interest". Once the courts convict him (assuming he's even guilty) then that's a different matter. What you people are defending here is that the accusation alone is enough to warrant a severe lynching. YOU ALL will suffer if you allow this kind of mentality to flourish. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 2:17:53 PM | This is exactly how it was back in the olden days. Sure, they had laws, but they'd string someone up without a trial, wouldn't they? I'm sure they also beat the crap out of unsavory characters and told them to move on to the next town, or suffer a worse fate. The people decided what could and could not happen in their own towns.
I'm not sure I disagree with it. I sort of think that people most closely involved know what happened. I know a story of a guy's sister: she was raped and beaten and left for dead (but survived to tell on the guy)--and they let him go! So the guy rounded up a posse and they were going to kill the guy, except bad guy raped and KILLED another woman and was arrested by the cops before good guys could get to him. I lost track of what happened to the bad guy, but I know he was convicted of murder--never for rape, though, which in itself pisses me off. As if devaluing the horror of THAT particular crime. | |
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