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 builderforfun

Joined: 5/13/2009
Msg: 1
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Posted: 6/19/2009 5:04:43 AM
I am pretty new to this, posted a couple of questions on the site, actually posted on the ask a girl sight, damn one thing you learn quickly is when you ask a question or make a statement, you get attacked on that sight, wow. Started reading the ask a guy sight to see how men react to some questions from women, they seem to be direct and to the point for the most part, why is that, or is it being that I am a male I just understand what they are saying easier. I wish women came with manuals, I am way under prepared for this I'm tellin ya, kind of forced into it, and we will leave it at that. There are some very beautiful women on these sites, and for the most part many have been here awhile, why would that be, personality plays a large part im sure, if you don't have that you really don't have anything, looks only go so far. I have noticed that women in there 40's seem to be more gun shy, and less likely to step out an take a chance, many seem to just want to chat, have met a few nice women on here. So got in the forums to ask questions, got some good answers and some useless ones, and you pick up veiwers from all overwhen you post apparently. Been insulted by a few women, that was odd,but definitly attacked lol, kind of like bein in a gang, cross the wrong lines and boom there on ya. I usually only try to send messages to people I think I share somethin with by reading their profiles, those are very misleading, women seem to be alot better at writing them, although I am not so much with agreeing they are actually like them, pictures, can be way off, Is this something your supposed to understand with time, not sure, learning as I go. Just ramblin out loud, single life has not actually been so bad, lots of free time and havin a little fun as i go.
 TryAgan

Joined: 4/4/2008
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Posted: 6/19/2009 5:37:24 AM

...I wish women came with manuals...

Manuals would be really nice, but even more important is the Return Policy.
 builderforfun

Joined: 5/13/2009
Msg: 3
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Posted: 6/19/2009 5:39:38 AM
Now that was funny
 tinkerbellcgy

Joined: 9/17/2005
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Posted: 6/19/2009 5:47:09 AM

Manuals would be really nice, but even more important is the Return Policy.

Thanks for my morning chuckle she says after wiping off the coffee that she spewed over the computer screen whilst reading it. Hell, if there was a Return Policy, I'd even return myself for a full refund!
 thecatsmeoww

Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 6/19/2009 6:08:27 AM
builder said:I usually only try to send messages to people I think I share somethin with by reading their profiles, those are very misleading, women seem to be alot better at writing them, although I am not so much with agreeing they are actually like them, pictures, can be way off

Why do you find some profiles misleading.. mine happens to be very accurate as to just what my interests are etc as I am sure many others are as well. As for pictures I think your main one should be a very current one at least taken in the past 12 months. Mine was taken a few weeks ago... however you can only tell so much from a photo. You cannot see personality how animated they are etc.

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 parrothead 13

Joined: 10/21/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2009 8:25:05 AM
A couple of quick points to ponder. Since (I assume) you dont check out too many guys profiles you should be aware that men pull the same dumb stuff of putting on wrong pictures and other things designed to lure women into contact when they have wholly different agendas

the fact that you put looks at the top of your list of things , as in lots of beautiful women on here but they been here a while, opens up some questions for you to think about. why does the fact that a woman is beautiful and in the pond for a while seem strange? perhaps she is simply seeking someone who sees beyond the pretty face to the real peson under the physical beauty. I get the sense from reading the post that your questions are honest and you want to learn the whys but I suggest you look at yourself first. I know its not fun, been there done that , but it does make it easier to look at the situation for what it is. Most folks that "attack" us in the forums are not attacking "us"so much as expressing a hurt and using us for a target. the psycho geeks call it displacement, i just call it pain relief.
 breath~

Joined: 1/13/2008
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Posted: 6/19/2009 8:48:44 AM
Just to answer the 'rambling' opening post...

Someone can be very honest.. and another not be able to read(understand) it at all.
So, they could be being honest, but you don't grasp it from your viewpoint.

Then again, yep... there are people who outright lie.
 Elle Kaye

Joined: 7/9/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2009 10:22:36 AM
Manuals? Return policy?? Puhlease . . . show me the guy who actually reads any manual!
Manual? You . . .Can't . . .Handle . . .The . . .Manual!


(thank you, Jack Nicholson)
 Jim978

Joined: 7/15/2008
Msg: 9
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Posted: 6/19/2009 10:37:23 AM

I am pretty new to this, posted a couple of questions on the site, actually posted on the ask a girl sight, damn one thing you learn quickly is when you ask a question or make a statement, you get attacked on that sight, wow. Started reading the ask a guy sight to see how men react to some questions from women, they seem to be direct and to the point for the most part, why is that, or is it being that I am a male I just understand what they are saying easier. I wish women came with manuals, I am way under prepared for this I'm tellin ya, kind of forced into it, and we will leave it at that. There are some very beautiful women on these sites, and for the most part many have been here awhile, why would that be, personality plays a large part im sure, if you don't have that you really don't have anything, looks only go so far. I have noticed that women in there 40's seem to be more gun shy, and less likely to step out an take a chance, many seem to just want to chat, have met a few nice women on here. So got in the forums to ask questions, got some good answers and some useless ones, and you pick up veiwers from all overwhen you post apparently. Been insulted by a few women, that was odd,but definitly attacked lol, kind of like bein in a gang, cross the wrong lines and boom there on ya. I usually only try to send messages to people I think I share somethin with by reading their profiles, those are very misleading, women seem to be alot better at writing them, although I am not so much with agreeing they are actually like them, pictures, can be way off, Is this something your supposed to understand with time, not sure, learning as I go. Just ramblin out loud, single life has not actually been so bad, lots of free time and havin a little fun as i go


I have to question what all of this rambling has to do with honesty between the sexes. The responses you got in the AAG forum where mostly do to your writing style. That thread was started much the same way this one was. You are rambling and there isn't a coherent thought carried through your posts. You start a thread about honesty between the sexes but then fail to make a case for it or raise any question. You are expecting the readers to shoot at a moving target and, as you'll learn if you use many forums, when you post in that fashion it becomes easier to shoot the messenger than to try and figure out what your actual question/comment is.
 builderforfun

Joined: 5/13/2009
Msg: 10
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Posted: 6/19/2009 11:45:01 AM
Thats why they call it rambling, as for the post don't like it don't read it, was not meant for all, truly I felt like sayin it, was my thoughts i just posted them, if negative is your only reply, so be it, but why, does this some how affect you. And sorry about the post and grammar, ya know I can tear a car from end to end and pretty much fix anything, although phrasing sentences does not seem to be my specialty, however when your damn car is broken do you really care about my phrases or puntuation, usually not. Kind of why this is a public forum, I felt like writing it you have the option to totally skip by it. or post on it, my post on there are alot of beautiful women in here, is true, although beauty goes beyond the outside, personality is a must. And as for the misleading profiles and photos, that post was do to some I have met, not of those I have assumed of, and I am sure some felt the same about me. I have got alot to learn since my divorce and eliciting responses helps me in ways i have found to be easier, than just chatting about random topics, i prefer to save what I learn for when you actualy meet people, as opposed to how can you meet people on here, one such lesson, you only meet people who really both want to meet, now thats the task, and with hundereds to choose from by sending out messages and trying to get them to reply is actually a joke, you really only pick those by looks or what you read, then you send what you think it is they want to hear, kind of like bein that guy or girl behind the screen,who can be anyone, in person though the story often changes, tell me i am wrong, I'm kind of thinkin I am starting to figure this out. theres alot that transpires here, and just playin in the forums is kind of relaxing.
 Annielikeslyrics

Joined: 3/5/2009
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Posted: 6/19/2009 11:48:19 AM

Manuals? Return policy?? Puhlease . . . show me the guy who actually reads any manual!
Manual? You . . .Can't . . .Handle . . .The . . .Manual!


(thank you, Jack Nicholson)



OMG...so funny. RTFM baby, RTFM!
 ramyam

Joined: 6/15/2009
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Posted: 6/19/2009 11:52:36 AM
.....I WISH MEN CAME WITH MANUALS
......AND ON THE SPOT DELETE BUTTONS
 moraima

Joined: 6/26/2005
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Posted: 6/19/2009 12:16:38 PM
"then you send what you think it is they want to hear"

Women would much prefer you to be real and hones.

Saying what you think women want to hear just isn't honest..............
 builderforfun

Joined: 5/13/2009
Msg: 14
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Posted: 6/19/2009 2:37:10 PM
Thats actually true, most would prefer you be honest but truthfully how many times have you had some one from either sex say something and do something totally different when you met them, was just out to lunch with a woman today, who told me the same thing, i hear it a lot, in person though you have to be you, I think its just human nature, and it seems women allways read more into men than what we are all about someone stated it best, we are simple creatures, lol,
 13karat

Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 6/19/2009 2:42:22 PM

.....I WISH MEN CAME WITH MANUALS
......AND ON THE SPOT DELETE BUTTONS

Naw - I think the 'backspace' key would be better.... then it would be like it almost never happened, and you can regain the space you were in....
 moraima

Joined: 6/26/2005
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Posted: 6/19/2009 3:06:46 PM
OP I guess my post went over you head. Or you choose not to listen.

Folks........men and women............listen to what people say.............chances are they mean it. Don't read anything in. Just take their words at face value.
 Stray__Cat

Joined: 7/12/2006
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Posted: 6/19/2009 4:18:32 PM
OP, I hope you type better in emails than in the forums.
Cus unstructured rambling is not gonna fly in email.

PARAGRAPHS!
please!
And STRUCTURE will improve how your thoughts are recieved.

Cus women think how you type....
is how you are.

Not saying it's right or true.
Just is.
 J-David

Joined: 6/15/2009
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Posted: 6/19/2009 4:47:14 PM
>>>
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There are any number of reasons why a person (of either gender) who posts appealing pictures might stay "in the pond" for a long time.

1. They could be looking for a very special person, a very close match, and not be willing to settle for less. That might take time.

2. They could have unpleasant personality traits that turn off potential mates / matches upon meeting.

3. Their agenda may be very different than what they present – deliberately or innocently.

4. They may be considered intimidating by many or most potential matches – who might not want to "take a number and stand in line" (or think, correctly or not, they might have to do so). Many don't want to go where competition is too fierce.

5. They may post in these threads with attitudes that reflect narcissism, or self-centeredness, or lack of consideration for others, or other unattractive attributes (regardless of what they present in profile).

6. There may be great inconsistencies in what they say.

7. The photo may be ancient or it may be completely fake (a different person).

8. The entire persona may be fake.
 moraima

Joined: 6/26/2005
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Posted: 6/19/2009 4:51:54 PM
9. They aren't looking for a relationship.
 Artz

Joined: 6/1/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2009 5:02:36 PM
Woman complaining men don't read. Well here's some news. that only reason men can't read is because of woman! That's right, it's your fault.
Masturbation causes blindness and if we got more sex we wouldn't have to masturbate so much, therefore we would be able to read. See I told you it was your fault!
Note to the humor challenged. The above was a joke. Not a good one but still a joke.
Now what was the question?
 builderforfun

Joined: 5/13/2009
Msg: 21
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Posted: 6/19/2009 5:03:14 PM
all 9 are great points, but I have met a couple who i had no idea who they were, not to mention, I have met several who were not lookin for a relationship then when you dated they seemed interested, as the is other way around, as for my paragraphs, listen to what i mean not what i say. people take this stuff way to personal, Near as i can figure this is more like revolving datin, while you send a message to a woman, she is fielding offers from 10 or more possible canidates, as the amout deplete no matter what the reason, she refreshes the likely canidate pool, to keep a fresh supply on hand till she finds the one that suits her needs lol. Went out on a date with one lady that stated she wanted nothin more than to date, she would go out with most guys who would buy her dinner, then find another one to repeat the process,
 moraima

Joined: 6/26/2005
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Posted: 6/19/2009 5:07:34 PM
Here we go again!

"she would go out with most guys who would buy hwer dinner, then find another one to repeat the process,"

YOu asked her out. You are at least 50% of the problem.

FYI...............dinner isn't worth being with people we don't enjoy. We can have dinner with friends and deal with no bs.................please...........!
 SueCat51

Joined: 8/11/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2009 6:22:51 PM
One danger about online dating; forums; chat rooms, etc. People can be anything they want to be. If you really want honesty, the best way and old fashioned way is to spend plenty of face to face time together. Folks today, don't want to spend the time to get to know each other - they want instant everything.

The Lesson of Life doesn't come in a manual. It comes by the way of experience. You've got to go out there, put your best foot forward and hang in there.
 Molly Maude

Joined: 9/11/2008
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Posted: 6/19/2009 7:13:13 PM
Artz' comment was GREAT! I was thinking sort of the same thing ... "what was the question?"

with regard to "honesty between the sexes" ... whether it's between sexes or to another woman ... I ALWAYS tell SOME version of the Truth ... (again, thanks to Jack Nickelson) ...

truthfully ... MY version of MY Truth ... probably is not YOUR version of MY Truth ... whether it's a man I'm speaking to or a woman ... it doesn't change MY version of MY Truth ... depending on the audience, I may be understood or not ...

you may think she meant "thus and so" when she said "this or that" ... whereas SHE probably thot when she said "this or that" ... she was conveying something else altogether! communication is NOT an exact science! especially WRITTEN communication ...

e.g., had Artz not specifically stated his comment was a joke ... some could possibly have taken his comments for his Truth!

IF I'm interested in meeting a man ... I generally want to meet him sooner rather than later because there are so many flaws in this system of communication ... his e-mails may sound to me as tho he meant one thing when, in reality, he meant something else altogether ...

when I can see him face-to-face ... THEN I get a more valid idea of what he's all about ...

and it's CERTAINLY NEVER about getting a "free meal" ... omg! that's the FURTHEST thing from my mind ... if you're so concerned over the price of a meal ... meet at a park ... meet at the mall ... don't spend your money on a meal for a stranger if that bothers you ...

 Elle Kaye

Joined: 7/9/2007
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Posted: 6/19/2009 8:44:39 PM
Oh, Artz, honeybabysweetiepie -

I didn't mean to infer that men don't (can't) read. Men just don't read manuals. Sports pages? yes. Ikea furniture's wordless, picture-only instructions? no! Crichton novels? yes. Anything that smells like instruction? NEVER. Artz, start reading the Harry Potter series. Or a Patricia Cornwell murder mystery. Gradually the eyes focus and the hair starts to disappear from your palms.
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