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| Time & Distance Are An Illusion
Posted: 7/4/2005 12:17:31 AM | There are no well defined boundaries between any
thing or any people ...except in ignorant minds. Peace,
happiness, wholeness, love, all exist right here, today, right
now in this moment ...only the mind leads you astray.
In order to fathom reality, you must let go of the concept of
time and distance, and other illusions created by men. Those who
adhere to time as a measurement, as a truth, will always find
themselves imprisoned and constrained ...indeed, believing in
time becomes a source for feeling unloved, separate and alone.
We are each integral parts of an entire whole. All is one. There
is no time and there are no distances between us. This feeling
of separateness that pervades humanity is false, born of limited
understanding and the prevailing concept of time.
The only true history is the history of the soul, the spirit.
We are all individual souls evolving toward our own unique
perfection, yet paradoxically, we are still inseparably
connected. The universe, we, and everything else in it is
perfect, all is good, and all will right itself without
intervention.
Just as water seeks its on level, every event, one's own
personal experiences, even tragedy all happen for a perfect
reason. Like a vacuum, like a magnet, we are pulled into the
next event or experience based on our exact needs, by virtue of
a "space" that needs to be filled, a lesson that must be learned.
By design, we attract into our lives that which we have yet
to master and require for enlightenment.
Ultimately, there is but one lesson for each of us to learn, and
that is the individual ability to accept, love and revere
unconditionally every person, every thing, every part of this
earth as if it were yourself, your beloved ...as if it were your
very own infant child.
The continuity and beauty of this world is the fluid
interaction between all the elements ...the ultimate dance, the
loving exchange which gives meaning to existance itself. We,
mankind, are but one important element.
We are all one in this world, irrevocably and gloriously. The
earth is alive and the universe is a great living organism. We
are each its perfect reflection and a necessary component of the
whole.
All of your dreams, all of your thoughts are nothing short of
fabulous magic! Yet all is forever swirling, fluid, recreating
itself over and again ...and still forever, we are always one.
Rejoice in the mysterious.
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Posted: 7/4/2005 1:52:15 AM | Oh, I like her!!! VERY interesting thoughts indeed! Although one could argue that Time distance and direction are the effects of life, examples perhaps to answer to the question of "why?"
Judging by your words I would almost draw the conclusion you've been out of body. You have a beautifull mind! I love how you think! | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 6:11:22 AM | | There is lots of mystery out there. But I think its a bit of a luxury to "rejoice in the mysterious". Hey I'm as guilty as they next guy or girl. Have you read Khalil Jibran? It sounds like you would enjoy him very much. But so many people here and abroad are in a struggle to survive that they don't really have the time to "rejoice in the mysteries". For them...time is a hard truth. Didn't mean to throw cold water on your thoughts...but this is what came to my mind as I was reading your post. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 6:14:44 AM | Yikes. Time to go....  And don't worry...I do know what you meant when you were talking about time in the sense you were. It has been proven scientifically that it is relative of course. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 6:26:37 AM | The luxury is understanding. What she has given voice to is the fact of which we are all equal and connected. In hard time's such as these thought's like hers are precious, and ring as true as they ever have. Life is but a passing dream, but the spirit is eternal. If there's ever to be peace among mankind, it will be minds like hers that will achieve it, not the minds of generals.
Blessed be sexyfun, you have put into words the secrets of life and enlightenment that few people ever come to know, and notice how she did this with out a mention of religion. You are a very wise woman... And a VERY deep thinker, one needs to be to form such beautifull ideas. These illusions of disconnection mankind has MUST be seen through!!!
"Revel in the mysterious!!!" | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 7:08:08 PM | @sexy
while i would agree that placing your focus on the temporal domain (time and distance as you put it) can be a cause of self imprisonment......however i would very much disagree with your statement that says that seems to say that 'time and distance are illusions created by man'.
time and space was not created by man, it was created by the Creator at the moment the universe came into existence.......we perceive space-time because it is there for us to perceive!
put another way.....try, jumping off a tall building (i'm speaking figuratively here) and on your way down just say that "time and distance is an illusion produced by man" and see what happens!
the fact is that we are spirit beings clothed in flesh, and we are beholden to laws of the material universe......the spirit can direct you in your earthly journey, but only if you yield to the spirit and deny power to the flesh. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 7:34:32 PM | 4SexyFun ; What a great post! This is what I believe also, but sometimes it is hard to rejoice in the mystery! Your objective is abundantly clear though..and I agree that it is the best course of action to take.
Wiccan partook this the same as me...almost sounds like an OBE. I believe that Time is something man needs to keep things in perspective, but once we leave this earthly plane, there is no time, or time becomes irrevelant. I also believe that time travel is possible.
Distance is an illusion. Many think that when we die we are millions of miles away...I believe the other side is but a few short feet away...so yes, in a sense there is distance, but not in the spectrum that we think. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 7:49:18 PM | Some peoples minds are so open that their brains have fallen out..
OBE=Order of the British Empire.. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 8:02:25 PM | Well, you believe what you want^^^^, LOL that was a great joke by the way.
OBE...was referring to Out of Body Experience. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 8:02:26 PM | I never really understood why some Pagan faiths believe O.B.E is necessary, but now to hear those who have achieved it, and those who have not, Im beginning to understand that particular mindset.
Sum1real, Time distance and direction are not things the "naked" spirit experience, this is the problem today it seem's, people are so connected to the "flesh" (the physical realm) they scoff those who know better. 13th, Sexyfun, it is the truth of "the other half of reality" that sets the spirit free, both in life and in death. Again Sexy beautiful words, and while they may not be hard fact, and the "Bible thumpers" and Science buffs will try to discredit all you say, those of us who have experience the mystical wonder of Astral travel understand their importance, AND that it is reality. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 8:14:00 PM | "Bible thumpers" and Science buffs will try to discredit all you say, those of us who have experience the mystical wonder of Astral travel understand their importance, AND that it is reality.
The mind can have all sorts of mystical experiences..no follower of the Way or Christian will deny that..LSD will give you plenty..been there done that..same with mushrooms, hash..but to base my life on such a subjective, personal experience is to claim IAM for myself..You aint. I aint, It can't, It doesn't, and you can't, I won't, and it don't. it hasn't, it isn't, it even ain't, and it shouldn't, it couldn't"
Ya see the Crux of the biscuit is the Apostrophe.. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 8:24:18 PM | | I agree, the mind can have mystical experiences, but this is a topic of spirit, Do you not believe in a spirit Lottabottle? Your taking an awful scientific view to this. I'll tell you my take on that Lottabottle, We ALLL know how science HATES to be confronted with something it has no explanation for. Thus the entire idea is passed off and delusion, or simple brain chemicals, they see something they cant explain and so the spout off brain chemicals and regions of the mind, I mean cmon Lottabottle your a religious man don't tell me your falling for that manure. If you believe in an after life of any kind then you believe in mysticism. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2005 8:29:50 PM |
I mean cmon Lottabottle your a religious man don't tell me your falling for that manure. If you believe in an after life of any kind then you believe in mysticism.
From reading my previous posts Wiccy you should know that I believe we are spiritual and I believe in the mystical..But.. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2005 3:37:24 AM | OK, Sum1real, I disagree with quite a few things you said...
while i would agree that placing your focus on the temporal domain (time and distance as you put it) can be a cause of self imprisonment......however i would very much disagree with your statement that says that seems to say that 'time and distance are illusions created by man'.
OK, I can tell you from experience, that her post puts into words "Astral travel" This is where the spirit leaves the body. Once this occurs things become very different. You come to understand that such concepts ARE of the physical plain. The way things are experienced on the astral plain are very different.
time and space was not created by man, it was created by the Creator at the moment the universe came into existence.......we perceive space-time because it is there for us to perceive!
Time in the since she's talking about are by man (that pesky physical plain again). Again, they are of the physical plain, not the astral. Things change in a big big way on the astral plain. Each one of these concepts (direction, distance, and time) are bi-products of having bodies or taking up space perhaps. As when there was no universe and nothing existed but the "one" these concepts would not have existed at all. As to have them you require a point of origin.
put another way.....try, jumping off a tall building (i'm speaking figuratively here) and on your way down just say that "time and distance is an illusion produced by man" and see what happens!
*sigh* You don't really "jump off things" Again these are physical concepts....
the fact is that we are spirit beings clothed in flesh, and we are beholden to laws of the material universe......the spirit can direct you in your earthly journey, but only if you yield to the spirit and deny power to the flesh.
We are not bound to the physical plain, that is another "illusion" Perhaps one DOES need to experience the Astral for enlightenment, to understand, how different and awe inspiring it is!! To know how hard it was for her to tack this experience down with words, as she has. This girl has taken us on a journey into the Astral plain. Perhaps this IS required for spiritual enlightenment, to show us how beautifully connected all things are.... | |
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Posted: 7/5/2005 6:16:34 AM | | Spiritual enlightenment can occur in other fahions also. For instance in Christian teaching spritual enlightment happens as God infuses Himself into the being of a repentant sinner who accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior. He then is born again "Spiritually'". Christians are taught that the resurrected Christ is not limited to physical laws as we are, However, he can transmute Himself in and out of astral to physical instantly when He chooses. When He returns, those true to Him will be changed instantly and share these abilities as well. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2005 6:24:22 AM | | As in your original comment at the beginning of this thread, Christianity also teaches we move, walk, talk, and have our being in HIM. All things were created by Him and for Him they were created, and through Him all things exist. Yes we are all one, or let's say we were intended to be. That was the original design. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2005 6:28:25 AM | Oh we still are sugar, doesnt matter who intended it, we are all connected and eaqual to every form of life, every substance, every concept, only Im Pagan I believe the Lord AND Lady are the creators..
*Giggles and runs away*  | |
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Posted: 7/5/2005 6:17:47 PM | | Time and distance are not concepts...they are proven to exist in our scope of understanding, which is where God (or whatever you call the Eternal), expects us to achieve a purpose. Our mind protects our body which houses our soul---all three are real (although only the soul will transcend this realm) and need to be nourished. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2005 8:51:51 PM | strange, i thought science was the exploration of the unknown. something that started as a way of defining and explaining mysterious and unknown things or events witnessed by humanity. perhaps lazy chocolate bar from vending machine eating scientists hate something they have no explination for, cause then they gotta work. but, science was born to define the unknown. and, before you try to crap on me for being spiritual, maybe you should look at your mind, see if it is really truly open.
i am more spiritual than can be imagined. but, i love the scientist. and, untill people can stop trying to say this way or that way is the way to go, then the world will always be hell. i mean, 2005 and were still making fake wars to charge people more for oil? wtf, silly kids | |
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Posted: 7/5/2005 11:11:41 PM | I wrote "Time & Distance Are An Illusion" a few years back ...a couple of days after 911. As I recall, the Bush administration had begun a campaign of persecution against Arab Muslims ...misleading Americans and the world against an innocent people.
Actually, "Time & Distance Are An Illusion" is an essay written in narrative prose. It seeks to engage the reader with a combination of mysticism, theosophy and quantum mechanics ...mixed with humanism.
Embracing eastern religion (Hinduism), the piece is sort of a life-goal roadmap. It can also show how ancient knowledge closely parallels new paradigms within western science. The west has only recently began to acknowledge how through worm holes and other space-time anomalies, that any point in space is immediately accessible via any other point.
Mankind together with his science is like a blind man fearful of the darkness; rather than to accept unconditionally all that is around him, he grasps frantically for anything that will explain his position in the Universe, to give meaning to his existence.
Science in essence, is fear based; it is not born out of love, or total acceptance and appreciation of the world in which we live; usually it's intentions are for selfish profit.
Ultimately, humans are an intricate part of nature. Our survival depends upon a flexibility to adapt and challenge current ideas of how the Universe works.
It's very plausible that we can contribute to changing our world for the better just by sharing our thoughts with others. As the collective mind of man is made more aware, our species is then compelled to follow a new destiny governed by that dominant impulse.
...lest we remain as indifferent strangers to a higher plane of achievement, we must transcend the bonds of Newtonian dogma.
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Posted: 7/6/2005 12:30:22 AM | | Well, astral travle or not, (and I can assure you, you certaily had me fooled) these were beautifull thoughts, and far more accurate than most people relise. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2005 12:50:53 AM | The beauty and romanticism of the narrative is its truth and how it expresses the symmetry and perfection of everything ...from every being to every element ...this loving relationship is the "astral travel", the ease at which ALL is accessed and how we are intimately connected.
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Posted: 7/6/2005 12:52:20 AM | its not a matter of 'changing the world for the better' its a matter of, returning the world to a healthy state, where you can drink the water and dont ahve to eat everything out of plastic containers.
ive never met a blind man who was afraid of darkness... but, other stuff you say makes a lot of sense. and, it would be foolish to accept all around you unconditionaly, for, that would be to accept violence and hatred and rape, no good person can accept such things unconditionally. we learn from questioning things, not from accepting things as we initially are exposed to them. people would simply starve and die. it is human nature to explore, and manipulation is essential for survival and any good human is always seeking new ways to better themselves and their surroundings. this does not mean better cell phone reception, or better cable tv (god save us)
but, better at respecting each other and our environment. learning to do what must be done, not just to do what feels good or is 'on sale'.
and, im no historian, but, fearful people are too busy being affraid and worrying to focus enough on something to solve it through science, they are the ones that breed 'religion' science, i feel, is formed from necesity, like all invention. if anything, its a tool to help calm the paniced and fearful. it makes them feel safe to have someone with a certificate tell them why there is thunder and lightning.
as for science being used for selfish profit. what in the world today isnt? though, in science, its usually the evil guy that has a scientist prisoner and forces him to work, i mean... dont you watch movies?
and, humans as an intricate part of nature? i think more likely, humans are a disease in the body that is 'earth' think about it, the more we live out our natural course, the more damaged our environment and the more intricate the system of lies to keep those that would better the place as a whole, selflessly and for no fame or payment, down on the ground with a foot on their head, making them eat mud and worms.
people are just so used to living carelessly these days, birth control condoms abortion lung transplants car keys with a bottle opener... theres no end... i say, keep em separated, all the orgie having abusers in one corner, all the passive, lowly peasants that only want love and a meager meal in the other. its a start... but hey, lets try everything else first, save that daring maneuver for a last resort. that is, if a wormhole doesnt open up and drop a raging meteor shower down on us. oh, wait... they tried that already, they got slaughtered by machines. i forgot, sorry... guess i just dont know what im saying
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Posted: 7/6/2005 2:04:18 AM |
The beauty and romanticism of the narrative is the truth and how it expresses the symmetry and perfection of everything ...from every being to every element ...this loving relationship is the "astral travel", the ease at which ALL is accessed and how we are intimately connected
WoW! With every post you make Im more and more impressed. You seem to understand truths that few people EVER come to know. I see now how narrow minded some of my own Pagan views have been, although I've always felt that there is no set course for enlightenment people never seem to reach this level with out "astral travel." In short I stand corrected. (and I don't admit these things very often) I just cant help but wonder how you described astral travel so incredibly accurate.
Mind, Heart, and Spirit are each isochronized to achieve total enlightenment, the "Heart" being the bridge from the mind to spirit. I wonder if you dreamed this, if so I'd say you were infact out of body, or if you have come to these ideas through deep inward contemplation, coupled with beautiful heart, and an old wise spirit having lived many times. These understandings are not come by easily. The illusions of disconnection from everything but one's self can be a terrible demon to defeat. You truly are a wise spirit.
time distance and direction are not conceptions
Then what are they? How do you prove such vast "concepts" when your bound to the earthly pain? You don't.."Science has proven these things" Well tomorrow they'll disprove them, Science is so silly that way...
The wisdom of man is foolishness in the eyes of God
The insecurities of your God is not "My" concern, I would prefer to believe "they" (our blessed Lord n Lady) put such things as wisdom out there to be learned, not to dangle them in front of us and say "well here they are but only the foolish will do the work it takes to achieve them"
Again 4sexyfun, beautiful enlightening post, don't let those who are ignorant to these truths discredit you, we deal in things older than science and indeed older than christianity, and we do not need their permission OR their seal of approval to seek them.
~Blessed be the children of the Mother Goddess and Father God~
The mysterious is what drives us all....Proof yet again that we are all equal and connected, Sexy you have taught a valuable lesson, on many levels, I salute your wisdom and maintain what a deeply beautiful individual you are! | |
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