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 BMWFS650g

Joined: 6/1/2009
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Is this stink bait???
Posted: 6/24/2009 2:23:06 PM
Well after not getting any bites yet I thought I would see if it is my profile.. I feel as though it is a good representation of me and my life.

Any criticism will be helpful..

Thank You

Bill
 craazycowgurl

Joined: 5/20/2009
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Posted: 6/24/2009 3:20:03 PM
I think that you may be having some trouble getting responses because you are separated and not divorced. If a woman is looking for something more than an intimate encounter she will probably stop reading at that point. The drama and difficulty of finalizing a divorce are not fertile soil for growing a new relationship. You will probably have better luck once you are actually divorced.
 happy2noudo2

Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 6/24/2009 5:40:50 PM
YA !!! SORT OF WOUNDERING WHERE THE HONESTY AND INTEGERITY IS, I'M SEPARATED , OPENLY SPOKEN IN MY PROFILE AND ,I CAN UNDERSTAND A LADY NOT WANTING ANY DRAMA. LOOKING FOR SOME BODY THAT SHE CAN START A FRESH RELATIONSHIP ..... NOW HERE IS THE KICKER !!!! ASKING SOME OF THE LADIES THAT ARE ON POF.. JUST TO CHAT, AND E-MAIL , OR WHAT EVER AS LONG AS IT'S OF A PURE NATURE , AND THERE SEPARATED AS WELL , AND DON'T WANT ANY MARRIED MEN CONTACTING THEM ??? WHAT THE CRAP IS THIS ???? LAY SOME HONEST WISDOM ON SOME MEN WHOM AREN'T SAYING THERE SINGLE OR DIVORCED WHEN IN FACT THEY AREN'T , ... MY BUDDY SAYS , JUST SAY YOU ARE DIVORCED AND EXPLAIN IT LATTER.....AND WHAT BLOW IT WITH THE ONE PERFECT , BEAUTIFUL LADIES HEART AND A CHANCE AT WHAT WE'RE ON HERE FOR ...A MAN OF INTEGERTY WILL ALWAYS WANT TO DO THE WRONG THING SOME TIMES !!! BUT CAN NOT ALLOW HIMSELF TO ,BUT HE WILL DO WHAT IS NEEDED TO BE DONE !!!THE LADIES ON HERE CAN'T BE IN SUCH DEMAND THAT THEY CAN'T ANSWERE IN SOME RESPONSE ,SOME GET MORE MAIL THEN OTHERS , UNDERSTANDING THIS , ITS MENT TO THOSE THAT DON'T GET ALL THE MAIL , SORRY FOR THE RANTING , A PERSONE WORD , OR HANDSHAKE WAS TO AS GOOD AS HE WAS . DENNY AKA . POINTBLANK2
 You go first

Joined: 5/1/2008
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Posted: 6/24/2009 7:46:35 PM
You definitely need more photos and the main should be a big smiling 8x10 glossy! Love the grassy knoll photo, very tranquil.

There are a few things that could be off-putting to your average viewer.

1. First and foremost, the "separated" tag as already mentioned. Is it possible to add a line saying you've been separated # yrs and the final paperwork should be done soon? No one wants to be the rebound girl and if you indicate there is no chance of reconciliation it may help. Maybe.

2. You have that you do not smoke but have "Cigars" as an interest. I know, you don't inhale. But ick...

3. Many women are afraid of guns (I have my FAC) and this could also be something that makes them nervous. Don't change your profile because this is obviously important to you, but in combination, these things may really narrow the field of women that will be a good match potential.

Be patient. The one you're supposed to meet may just not be here yet.

And get rid of the age restriction in your email settings - if you get bombarded with emails from old broads, simply say "Thanks, but I don't think we're a match". Good luck!
 You go first

Joined: 5/1/2008
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Posted: 6/24/2009 10:19:46 PM
(psssst.... Bill.... you can change the age settings to "Any" and it will go away. It's at the very top of the drop-down arrow thingy.....)
 JustNotThatIntoYou

Joined: 1/20/2009
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Posted: 6/24/2009 10:40:37 PM
OP: women are suckers for a smiling face. You look TOO intense in that pic.
Is this stink bait???
Posted: 6/24/2009 10:56:14 PM
The few women that have responded to my contacting them have told me its the "separated" thing. We may not feel married, but we are. Take care of business and the rest will take care of itself. When a divorce gets down to brass tacks about separating stuff and money and all that is when the bombs fall and not to many are into volunteering for front line duty.javascript:smilie('')
 BMWFS650g

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Posted: 7/2/2009 4:56:23 AM
OK.. So I changed it .. is it better or worse???

Thanks

Bill
 You go first

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Posted: 7/2/2009 7:37:32 AM
Hi, Bill -

It's coming along nicely. There are, however, a few 'red flag' comments that would have me moving on.

The sentence about "laws being for the weak-minded", and that if you "don't agree with the laws you don't follow them" would have me click right out. The sentence about smoking drugs/dope doesn't need to be here, either. You've got that in your email settings and can figure it out prettyquickly if you meet. Anything that has the phrase "rebait your hook" or "get out the hook" needs to be rephrased.

Although - I imagine there are some ladies out there who will agree with you, the negativity of the phrasing is not flattering to you in the context of a profile.
 BostongirlinCA

Joined: 6/17/2009
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Posted: 7/2/2009 8:35:00 AM
Bill,

My impression was that you tend to be negative. That could be a result of what you are going through with your divorce and all, you may be trying to remain friendly but the stress shows in your viewpoint.

Positive, upbeat, active profiles appeal to me. Wait until you are having a great day and then try to rewrite your profile according to your mood. Most of use have baggage of our own that we try to suppress, in my case I don't want to take on someone else's.

 canam miles

Joined: 7/14/2007
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Posted: 7/2/2009 8:48:49 AM
A few red flags?? I did not see the original profile but I tend to respect You Go Firsts judgement of things so , you must have made a big improvement over the last.
We tend to approach reviewing differenly, so here's mine.

First your picture. You have space for 8 or more shots. ue them. A strange angled pic of you in a baseball cap is not the greatest. Yes the stream pic is nice, but meaningless. Drop it.
You claim to be a social drinker, but put down Rickards as you of your interests. People will assume that you mean Rikards Red and assume that you ain't a social drinker.
In general I feel that you have forgotten who the audience reading your profile is. They are women. You have a profile designed to attract your buddies.


Well I guess it is time to update this a little.

Drop this.


I am separated.. Yes separated not yet divorced.. Alberta has a dumb rule about waiting for a year before a person can be divorced. So I am currently waiting patiently..

You open up with a rant!?! That was silly. The first thing out of your mouth is whining and complaining. Bad. Drop this entire thing.


I have a good relationship with my ex and hopefully always will (she is the mother of my children after all and does deserve that respect.) So if you have a problem with that please rebait your hook.

I get it. You are trying to show that you are respectful. But this ain't the time. Look at it this way. The first things that you say are all about your previous relationship and then the woman that you had it with. We know nothing about you yet, but you won't shut up abo her. Any woman that may have been interested will not want to compete.
Also, enough with the hook analogies. The rebait your hook, I'll throw out the hook is just clumsy. Drop this entire thing.


I have a question. What does smoking occasionally mean??? Is that a pack a day or just when you are out with the girls having a girls night??

Okay, at this point I would have stopped reading and I am sure that many women do the same. So far not one word about YOU. Nothing. The reader is reading YOUR profile to learn about YOU. Who cares what the smoking thing is? You ain't gonna start a national debate on the topic. You need to discus you and what you would be like to be around ar some point.


I am a father of two young boys ( 2&5) who are my anchor in this crazy world we live in and I wouldn't give them up for anything (Even if they make me a little grayer every day..LOL)

Okay... well that is at least something. I always wonder at what people are thinking when they write that you would not give them up? Are you in a situation where you may have to? If so then you are not at a point where you should be dating. I like the humour bit though. This is getting tedious. The reader does not know you yet, so these details are silly. The reader does not yet care. This stuff is to e saved for conversation.

I have them 4 on 4 off, this coincides with my work schedule. I am very protective of them and will not be introducing them to someone until I am sure there is a future prospect.

??? Already setting up conditions and hurdles to jump over. I am pretty sure that the readers are not reading your profile to get to your kids. Relax. Drop this entire thing.


On the note of kids I have chosen "Does not want children" which simply means I don't want more of my own. If you have children I think that would be great..

Okay.


I work a steady job that unfortunatley involves shift work. I own my own home in the country and won't be leaving it, so please be with in 90 miles(150km) of here. I am 1 hour west of Edmonton.

What are you talking about?? Who the heck asked you to give up your house to get a date? This is just negative. Drop the entire thing and then just mark must be within 75 miles in your mail restrictions.
At this point I seriously want you to stop and re-read your profile from the top to here. Stop at the part where it would ENCOURAGE a woman to date you. Where it would tell a woman something INTERESTING about YOU. So far I have not seen it. So far it's just,
Stupid Alberta laws.
My ex This and my ex that.
If you want to meet my kids you have to date me for a long time and no one is gonna take them away from me.
I am not giving up MY house so if you want to date me, you have to fall under these parameters.
Oh and I work funky hours so it will be a pain in the but to see me.
You sound like a bowl of great times!


As for hobbies I am an avid shooter. I currently compete in Long Range matches and I love it. I do hunt but mostly varmints and nuisance animals.

At last something about you... and then you sound like you are apologising for it.


I listen to country and rock music mostly, Although I do love tunes from the muppet show and other off the wall stuff too.

Who do you like? Have you been to any concerts lately? The Muppet thing could be funny if you packaged it that way. It could come off as endearing.


What am I looking for?? Well I am looking to have a relationship with a woman. I do like to take things slow. If after 3 monthes of knowing you you tell me you want to have my baby and make plans to move in I may throw the hook. I am not in a rush and hope you aren't either.

You open up with 'What am I looking for?' And then proceed not to tell us. But tell us some not nice vaugly insulting stuff. Where in there does it describe 'What you are looking for?'


I believe in honesty, morality and monogamy. I do my best to be as good of a role model to my boys as I can be and conduct myself in a way that they can say "Dad always tried to do what was right." Am I Mr. Perfect?? LOL.. Not by a long shot. I tend to live my life by my rules.

Not too bad, but still not dating site profile. Notthing for a date to take interest in.


I feel laws are for weak minded people. If I agree with a law I would have lived my life that way anyhow and if I don't I tend to ignore it.

Yeah... that is just silly, but whatever. If you feel that way then fine. I am sure that the single women that are reading this is pretty thankful that those laws keep them safe and protected. But whatever.I am not quite sure that calling those that happen to agree that there should be a speed limit, or that rape is bad weak minded. I think that they may find that insulting, but I may be weak minded...


Also one more thing; Drugs. Please be honest in your profile. If it says no and when we chat or meet you tell me you don't consider "pot" a drug then you will be thrown back. They don't call it "DOPE" for no reason. I know I tried it a few times as a teen.

Why did you just go on a rant about liars in your profile? And then say that you know what you are talking about because 'You tried weed a few times as a teenager'? Drop this entire thing.


On the whole I am happy with my life and where I am. I enjoy my time with my boys and get to see my family more often now. The only thing missing is that someone special to share dinner and drinks and good conversation with..

You do not sound happy. You sound miserable!


Thanks for reading and happy fishing.

The first positive thing thatyou have said not regarding your kids or ex wife. Your profile makes you sound like you would be needlessly demanding, unable to have fun or relate to what women may want to do for funa dn just plain boring. After reading your profile, the reader still has no real idea of how you spend your time, what sort of woman that you are looking for or anything other than you will make demands of her andinsult people that disagree with your way of thinking.
 craazycowgurl

Joined: 5/20/2009
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Posted: 7/2/2009 4:28:43 PM
I'm still pretty new to the forums, but that was a great review! Good job Canam Miles! Hope the OP takes some of your advice!
 BMWFS650g

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Posted: 7/4/2009 7:16:33 PM
OK.. thanks.. I have cut out the negative stuff for the most part and will try to do a rewrite..

Most of it was because I have run into a chick who did this stuff.. She then said i was not honest with her.

Well I will see how things go.. thanks for the criticism.. It is appreciated.

Bill
 JustNotThatIntoYou

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Posted: 7/4/2009 8:47:30 PM
When you say the opposite of a negative, it sounds better.

For instance..........

Instead of saying, "I don't like liars".

You could say, "I really appreciate honesty in people."

See?

Sometimes, it's not so much about WHAT you say, as it is about HOW you say it.
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