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 Zebra Circle

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 7:53:07 PM
The title of this post pretty much sums it up.

Women aren't sexually attracted to male-pattern baldness, and men are MAJORLY depressed by their own male-pattern baldness.

You see a man with male-pattern baldness either do the comb-over or shave it off completely. And you hear on this forum how -- by and large -- women say that if a guy has male-pattern baldness to shave it off.

Why is this? Why has male-pattern baldness gotten such a bad rap? Why is it not attractive? And why are there so few alternatives to male-pattern baldness (e.g., men either do the comb-over, wear a toupee, or shave it off -- or for those with the financial means, get plugs)?

Yet look at someone like Sean Connery? He let's his male-pattern baldness flag fly high, and he's been on those "sexiest men alive" lists. And I once saw a man who put his in dreads, and they looked really cool?

So what is it about male-pattern baldness that men and women don't like?
 Abitmore

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 7:59:14 PM


this is a joke now isn't it?

 chrispickles

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 8:14:02 PM
i think this post is showing no accuracy what so ever of what people like..i believe im one with the balding going on myself, but i have shaved it off for so long that it means nothing to me if i sprout a hair here and there. how does hair make a man depressed, or lack of hair i should say??????????/ im sure there are many more reasons for depression then hair.
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 Zebra Circle

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 8:18:34 PM

i think this post is showing no accuracy what so ever of what people like

You're kidding, right? You're going to tell me that there is no stigma for men with male-pattern baldness? You're going to say that if you were given a choice -- a full head of hair or male-pattern baldness -- that you'd choose the latter?

Why don't I believe that?
 Jim978

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 8:19:07 PM

So what is it about male-pattern baldness that men and women don't like?


This is just a guess but I suspect it is the baldness part that they don't like.
 Zebra Circle

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 8:41:30 PM

This is just a guess but I suspect it is the baldness part that they don't like.

I know you're joking, but you're right. Yet why is that? Especially since male-pattern baldness is so commonplace. It's really as common, if not more so, than men with a full head of hair (don't quote me on this, but I seem to recall that more men are balding than men who are not).

So why is this very common and natural thing in men so looked down on from both men and women?
 whytwater

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Posted: 6/26/2009 9:13:47 PM

So what is it about male-pattern baldness that men and women don't like?


To be fair, balding women, I suspect, are no more well-received than balding men.
And to be equitable, in a real sense, this question, which I think is quite legitimate, is akin to the diffident girl who asked why small-breasted women are overlooked. The resounding response was that it was her lack of confidence that the general population would dislike about her, not her hershey-kiss breasts. Perhaps the answer lays partially there- you don't like your own (I'm assuming that you are balding), it influences your approach to the world, and people pick up on that.
There is also more to it. Frankly, I think hair is sexy, on a woman of course, and on her head (why don't we ever here of the balding poossy or dyk dilemma?), and I suspect that many, if not most, women are visually stimulated by a man with a full head of hair. I know of nothing to suggest that there is any correlation between baldness, or the start of it, and virility. It is only the aesthetics, really, although the belief that virility is somehow involved cannot be completely discounted.
Perhaps it is a visible reminder of the aging process, and it would probably be fair to say that most women prefer men no older than themselves (which is an inquiry more dear to my heart-why is that? Why is older not prized in our culture, when it seems to be venerated in Asian cultures?)
Not many of us are "hunks", or "babes", by acclamation. We can only sell what we possess. And the successful salesman presents his pigeon with two propositions: (1) a problem that the pigeon has, whether realized or not, and (2) a most attractive solution to that problem. The most seductive problem to sell, I suspect, to either female or male, is the need for intimacy, a craving for a mate. Very few will define that problem as the lack of a mate with a full head of hair.
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 theoddestspot

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 9:21:47 PM
I believe it all comes down to preferences.

yes I do believe there is a stigmatism against baldness, but there are thousands of other issues out there(weight, ethnicity, age, etc..). we are programed as a society to believe what is normal or ideal. we are what we are. its our own personal preferences in what we find attractive(full head of hair or bald, fat or skinny) that dictates what is attractive to the individual. to each theyre own.....

as far as not being able to date....lol

never had a problem in that department

G
 Zebra Circle

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 9:23:29 PM
Thanks for your input, whytwater.

No, I'm nowhere near male-pattern baldness.

The thing that triggered this post is that I saw a man with male-pattern baldness who -- rather than shave it all off or do the comb-over -- grew it into dreads and put it in a funky pony-tail. He also had a neat goatee to go along with it. So it got me to thinking: Here's a guy who is not afraid to let his male-pattern baldnesss shine, and he even did something unique and creative with it. Yet so many others don't.

For men, it's like they're ashamed of their male-pattern baldness, so they either do the comb-over or shave it off entirely). And for women, they just aren't attracted to it (their mantra is always, "If you have male-pattern baldness, shave it all off!").

And note: You sort of went into women who are balding, but that's not what this post is about AT ALL. Balding women is a whole 'nother issue.
 Libra1115

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 9:37:34 PM
For me, it's a matter of preference. I just find men with hair more attractive and appealing that bald men. I know it's not fair but it's just the way I feel. I can deal with a few extra pounds easier than I can deal with male pattern baldness.....sorry.

 Zebra Circle

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Posted: 6/26/2009 9:47:28 PM

For me, it's a matter of preference. I just find men with hair more attractive and appealing that bald men. I know it's not fair but it's just the way I feel. I can deal with a few extra pounds easier than I can deal with male pattern baldness.....sorry.

Thanks for responding, Libra1115.

But I'm not looking to take a sample of who doesn't like male-pattern baldness. I'm really trying to find out WHY?

I know this could be hard, but do you think you could state WHY you don't like male-pattern baldness? For example, do you not like seeing all that skin on the top of the head? Do you not like the styles you see with male-pattern baldness? Answers to things like that are what I'm looking for.

Thanks much!
 MsMicki

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 9:55:29 PM
Guess I'm not the one to be asking.....because I have absolutely no problem with it.
Last 3 men I've been in relationships with are balding .....
but they are balding gracefully......and it doesn't affect their confidence in themselves.
I see it no differently than I do my head full of white hair.
I wear it proudly.
And if a man can still carry himself w/ dignity ( which means no combover.....tyvm)...
he'll attract my eye.
 indigoeyes

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 10:26:51 PM
I personally find bald men very attractive. Comb-overs for me are a turn off. From what I observed the men who do shave their heads look younger then those who try to hang on to what is left of their hair.
 *~*ChardyGirl*~*

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Posted: 6/26/2009 10:53:55 PM
Lots of women dont find balding attractive.
Why?
Answer = They just dont !!

Im not even speaking for myself.....i couldnt care less about balding....the man im seeing at the moment is balding and he's the damned sexiest man ive ever been with..........
 AwP

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 11:17:22 PM
Supposedly men with male pattern balding have more testosterone than those who don't, it might be some sort of subconscious pheromone type thing, though if that was the case it seems to work backwards from how it should.
 EvilLolli

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Why don't men and women -- by and large -- like male-pattern baldness?
Posted: 6/26/2009 11:52:28 PM
Hmm I grew up around several men that have male pattern baldness, it never fazed me until I saw comb overs and toupees that looked alive.

The men I grew up around never lacked for female attention. That probably says more about the men than the amount of hair though. It's grace versus denial in my book.

Then again I would to use my dad's bald spot to check my make-up in the reflection. Yes, he knew. Yes, we joked about it. I would even give them birthday cards to them and their surviving "hairs". Cold? Only if they were insecure about it. None of them were. See the difference?
 fulibard

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Posted: 6/27/2009 2:12:04 AM
ill be honest here, Im one of the afflicted and i'm just 36. I started losing hair before i started getting grey.

To me it just tells me im getting old. Older than i truely feel. Do i like it? hell no, but i accept it. I really don't have the choice not to. Sure it bugs me some days . I get the occasional wise crack about it too. I just do my best not to let it bug me and take solace that it will happen to everybody else.

 Jeffrey Lebowski

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Posted: 6/27/2009 2:12:24 AM
Do they really have to come up with a reason as to why they don't? I don't know if they can define the reason why, it's just a matter of preference. It is what it is. You may as well ask "Why don't most men like cankles"?

At least for balding men, the shaved head look seems pretty popular these days so perhaps balding men should try shaving it rather than trying the combover.
 TooShadows

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Posted: 6/27/2009 6:17:00 AM
Depends on the woman. I've got male -pattern balding,but I've always let my hair go gracefully. No comb-overs or creative combing for me. Heck,it's easier to take care of this way. Of all the women I've met in the past none have had a problem with my hair loss,and some have thought I look better with it the way it is after seeing pictures of me with a full head of hair. Now if I could just lose the hair on my back.....
 MsMicki

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Posted: 6/27/2009 7:03:36 AM
They say you don't really lose your hair......it just travels to different parts of your body!!
 JerseyGirl2008

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Posted: 6/27/2009 7:03:45 AM
I just find a full head of hair incredibly sexy as hell. And if it's dark or black - be still my beating heart..I can't keep my hands OUT of it.

I'm not a fan of shaved heads; I always automatically think that the poor gentleman is a chemo patient when I see a shiny scalp.
 Zebra Circle

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Posted: 6/27/2009 7:22:32 AM

Do they really have to come up with a reason as to why they don't? I don't know if they can define the reason why, it's just a matter of preference. It is what it is. You may as well ask "Why don't most men like cankles"?

I know what you're getting at, Jeffrey Lebowski, and you're absolutely right. So many things when it comes to attraction are simply unexplainable.

But rather than just say, "I like it," or "I don't like it," I was hoping to see if people might have ideas as to why.

For instance, here's my theory. For those who have a full head of hair, there are so many different styles they can choose from. They can grow it long, they can keep it short, they can keep it short on the sides and longer on top, they can slick it back with gel, and so on and so on. With the male-pattern baldness, though, for those who don't choose to do the comb-over or shave it off, it's usually just trimmed short around the ears and the neck. Where's the variety?! Sometimes, you'll get the guy who grows it long, but for whatever reason, they always seem to keep it in a perpetual ponytail.

Like I said, for those who do something a bit different and creative with it, I always take a look. And often times, I think it looks pretty neat. For instance, I already mentioned the guy who grew his into dreads, but I once saw a guy who shaped his into a band that he connected with some long sideburns. He was in a band. The look totally rocked on him.
 ChinaShopBull

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Posted: 6/27/2009 7:31:15 AM
Why does the why matter? My hair is thinning, and I don't worry about something that can't really be changed. Plenty of women don't have a problem with it, and some very fine women have even made special exception for me. (Though I don't know why.) The women who are left over don't matter. I'm not trying to be with every woman in the world anyway.

Sure, it can suck to be attracted to someone who isn't feeling you, but men with hair aren't guaranteed to be attractive to everyone either.

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Edit to add...

There are probably more why's than we'll ever list here, but I'll put a couple of possibilities out there.

1) Vanity... Women don't want to be seen with a man they feel is lacking, because his hair is thinning. Some men can't handle being that guy.

2) Genetics.... There are traits I would like to pass on to my children, and those I wouldn't. These things will come to mind when choosing a mate. Though I gather that male pattern baldness is passed from the female, and is linked to the X-chromosome. So looking at the man you're dating, rather than the men in your own family, isn't an effective means of determining whether that trait will be passed along.



 Zebra Circle

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Posted: 6/27/2009 7:38:39 AM

Why does the why matter?

It matters only so much as it's a topic for discussion on this forum. Just something to get input on, share ideas on, and get us all to really think about this. And since this forum is the Sex and Dating site, I thought it was worthy of analysis.

In American culture at least, male-pattern baldness is not looked on too highly. You see the ads for hair growth, you see the celebrities getting those fancy toupees, you see the ads in magazines where men ALWAYS have a full head of hair.

So I'm just curious as to why male-pattern baldness is so frowned upon, that's all.
 monsoon_rain

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Posted: 6/27/2009 7:47:15 AM
a) I don't consider Sean Connery the sexiest man alive.
b) I am attracted to bald men. I don't care if a man has a head full of hair or bald. It's what's inside his head that matters. The only think I dislike are those silly comb-overs. If you are going bald, you can't hide it. So stop pretending you have hair if you don't. That in itself is a big turn off.
In fact, I would say I prefer bald men or men with shaved heads. I don't like hair on bathroom sinks etc.
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