| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 3:30:16 PM | I do not think we can blame groups of students, ' up for a laugh ' , for creating crop circles. Some of these circles are incredible designs with bewildering accuracy.I have witnessed one myself, on the side of a hill in full view of a main road when I was driving a lorry, it was breathtaking, I remember thinking ' you got to be joking ', no one could have done it overnight, even if they could they would have had to flood the field with light and the hoax would have been seen from miles around.
These crop circles need to be explained properly and not dismissed merely as hoaxes, any ideas ? | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 4:27:38 PM | Can you take a picture of the one you are referring to, FatedStar?
Is possible that not are crop circles are made the same way, and a picture of the one that appeared to you to be impossible to be manmade, could help us to investigate it. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 4:53:22 PM | The crop circle formation I saw was a few years ago now, I was driving for a living at the time, I had no camera unfortunately.
I know a lot of people will dismiss these as hoaxes, yes, we can all walk into a field and flatten corn, I am an artist with some knowledge of mathematics and science, but I also know that I have'nt got a hope of achieving the scale and precision of these circles.
If those who claim' hoax' came upon them they would realise just how profoundly mysterious they are, and deserving of research, or at least try to replicate them and find out for sure how they are done.
Many examples of crop circles can be found by searching the internet, Avebury, England would be a good starting point. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 4:57:26 PM | jjjjeeeeeesssssss....... people sure do have a lot of time to ponder all these freakin coo-coo fantasy diversions... crop circles.... aliens.... abductions...... demons.... angels......
unicorns.... sasquatch...... There must be a lot of free time to spend on this pablum.
Why not try spending a little time dealing with real life and less time googling crap on the net... Also I think they are total fakeness.... drunks.... bored publicity seeking farmers.... stoopid people.... pranksters preying on the low IQ crowd.... What a waste of good crops too. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 5:08:49 PM |
These crop circles need to be explained properly and not dismissed merely as hoaxes, any ideas ?
My work in microbial organisms, and actually watching the complexity of microscopic life has led me to believe that tiny organisms might actually be responsible. If you have ever seen a sheet of pulsating bacteria moving rythmically, you might believe.
I have even watched clouds moving in midair, moving with such precision as to defy the consideration that they are merely dust and water moving in the breeze. There seems to be an organized, if not intelligent force within the movements. I call some of the experiences "spiritual," but believe it could also be a microbe that is smart enough to try make me look like a silly bible thumper. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 5:09:23 PM | no one could have done it overnight, even if they could they would have had to flood the field with light and the hoax would have been seen from miles around
One person has a 2x4 board on the ground, horizontally in front of him. Right foot in the center on top of the board. Each hand holding onto a rope attached to the ends of the board. Everytime he takes a step forward, he pulls up on the rope to keep the board againt the bottom of his feet.
Everytime he takes a step forward the board presses the crop down as he walks over it.
He also has a rope around his waist. Second person stands in the middle of the circle, holding the rope as the first person walk around him, making a perfect circle. The second person gradually lets out more and more rope making the circle bigger and bigger.
Huge circles can be made in a couple of hours in darkness. And this is just from using a low tech method, leaving no traces of chemical, tire tracks, etc. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 5:25:01 PM | I've seen fairy rings... a type of mushroom colony that grows in a large ring.
Alas I believe that all these fancy crop circles we are seeing today are human made. Weren't crop circles supposed to be the circular mark left behind when ufos land? When did all the artistic stuff come out?
Popular sport in England. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 6:30:14 PM | 2hi-iq-4u, what a fascinating perspective...
I mean that honestly and I promise I'm not trying to draw you into a war of words.....colourful ideas, I want to raise a hand in acknowledgement of their colour....a bit to profound of a colour for 'my' liking...but each to his own. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 6:46:57 PM | a bit to profound of a colour for 'my' liking...
Since we are correcting each others spelling, that's "too profound" not "to profound"
The color is simply perspective. How can one assert the truth when one is unsure? One can merely speculate and continue to observe nature unless one has an obsession with crediting the supernatural. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 6:57:53 PM | | So 2hi-iq-4u, what you're suggesting is single-celled organisms are, by some mechanisms and/or for some purpose, are causing select plants within a crop to drop in geometric patterns? Have I got that right? | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:03:34 PM | So 2hi-iq-4u, what you're suggesting is single-celled organisms are, by some mechanisms and/or for some purpose, are causing select plants within a crop to drop in geometric patterns? Have I got that right?
I am saying that I have seen communities of single celled organisms acting in community to accomplish many things which I found unbelievable. I have likewise seen similar discovies published in scientific publications, and speculate that not single celled organisms, but communities of them might be responsible for large designs. Have you ever seen a coral reef? It is largely a community of single celled organisms. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:13:24 PM | That would be pretty cool if in some circumstances it were micro organisms doing all that.
I read once that studies are being done on certain pathogens, to see how sensitive their behaviour is to magnetic fields.
There is some stuff in this wiki page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoception | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:15:11 PM | Yes I have. And a quick search on the Internet shows that a lot of coral structures are multi-cellular. However, coral reefs are entire ecosystems including single and multi-cellular organisms.
A single coral, from what I've seen is more of a fractal structure. I think crop circles are a different thing. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:22:46 PM | single coral, from what I've seen is more of a fractal structure. I think crop circles are a different thing.
I had to do some quick reading to attempt to verify the assertion. My search did come up with indications of more sophiticated colonies which define simple multi-celled organisms, but they do maintain much of the structure of a community of single celled creatures. They have no real "brain function," yet they form those fractals. Crop circles are clearly different, but there are fresh water corals, and who knows? A crop circle could be the action of a land coral, or an airborn one. You might also note that the mineral concentrations in sea water would lend to more angular designs and even force some angular accretions.
Have you seen the pictures of the "snowflake" trees on Mars? Awesome stuff. Life inside an iceball? Possibly. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:50:36 PM | | Speaking of crop circles and fractals, I once saw a photograph of a crop circle in the shape of the Mandelbrot set! (But I think it was probably a fake.) | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 7:50:40 PM | I had to do some quick reading to attempt to verify the assertion. My search did come up with indications of more sophiticated colonies which define simple multi-celled organisms, but they do maintain much of the structure of a community of single celled creatures. They have no real "brain function," yet they form those fractals. Crop circles are clearly different, but there are fresh water corals, and who knows? A crop circle could be the action of a land coral, or an airborn one. You might also note that the mineral concentrations in sea water would lend to more angular designs and even force some angular accretions.
Have you seen the pictures of the "snowflake" trees on Mars? Awesome stuff. Life inside an iceball? Possibly.
You're joking, right? I mean, you'd believe this far-fetched nonsense about innumerable single-celled creatures acting as some kind of super-network creating crop circles, before you'd believe a bunch of very complex multi-celled creatures with a sense of humor being responsible for crop circles?
As I posted in the LAST couple of crop circle threads: http://circlemakers.org/ Go. Read. Learn. Stop being ignorant. (Generally, not specifically you.) | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 8:06:10 PM | He would................................................................... .
Actually no. I would accept the first as a possibilty until evidence of the second is conclusive before I assumed "god did it," or that we had been successfully invaded by aliens.
The secret may likely die with the conspirators, whether microbial, human, gods, or aliens. Having seen the cell disruption on a microbial level on the actual stalks of the crops, I am sticking with microbes as my first choice.
Having a patent pending on a microbial filtration device might tend to bias my viewpoint against humor. I don't really enjoy having my chosen profession ridiculed, except when I am doing standup. | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 8:17:20 PM | | hi... all things are possible, students, spiritual forces.... the main theme here for me is that it certainly detracts from other matters that would benefit from our time and energy... blessings, warmly Mona | |
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| Crop Circles, what is behind this mystery ?
Posted: 6/29/2009 8:23:31 PM | the main theme here for me is that it certainly detracts from other matters that would benefit from our time and energy. So do most of the activities of the human race, but you and I aren't going to change that without bloodshed or violence. Why not just join "Brightspark" and I in a beer/mead to celebrate the ingnorance of mankind and the "Age of The Drama Queen?"  | |
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