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 TopFind

Joined: 6/11/2009
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Posted: 6/30/2009 9:52:56 AM
I used to like pets, but last year, I encountered two unpleasant episodes that made me reconsider my preferences.

The first lady had a large male cat that used to sleep with her in the bed. During our first night together in her apartment, we put the cat out into the hall for the night. Not only was the cat making terrible noise during the night, but the next morning while we were having breakfast, he came into the bedroom and peed over the bed. This happened three times during two months we were together. According to her vet, the cat was punishing her. I had a feeling that I got punished because those episodes created a lot of tension and ruined all the romance.


Few months later, on another dating site, I met a new lady who lived about 3 hours away. She owned a large, somewhat scraggy German Sheppard. After a few telephone calls, the things were going great, and she invited me for a visit to her town, and graciously offered to me sleeping arrangement on her couch. After I arrived in her place, I left my canvass travel bag near the door and we proceeded into the living room. As expected, in the first hour, the dog was over me more often than my friend, but eventually he calmed down. After the dinner, I suggested to go for a walk, and take the dog with us. As we were nearing the door and my bag, the dog suddenly lifted his leg and urinated over the bag. I was really pizzed off, and since even my PJ’and other clothes in the bag got wet, the trip was almost ruined. The good thing was, I didn’t have to sleep on the couch, so I didn't need my PJ's..


I am now talking to a very pleasant lady who invited me to her hobby farm where she keeps two young stallions, but I am somewhat reluctant to visit her there. What would be a safe distance to keep away from the horses or do you know of any repellent that would avoid mishaps like described above?
 WomanInProgress

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:06:01 AM
You might want to check your energy, and I'm not being funny. Peeing is a sign of territory and dominance, and it could just be that both those animals were establishing both with you, being that you were around their owner, are also male, and new to the situation. The cat in particular - wasn't punishing the owner so much as was claiming the bed as theirs, especially after being banished from it if it's used to sleeping there.

Animals who walk over, stand on, hump, pee on or otherwise invade the space of someone usually do so based on the fact that you are projecting a submissive energy as well as techincally altering their environment and occupying someone they feel they own. Most animals determine anything other than calm strong energy to be weak, and they tend to capitalize on weak.

A confident, strong, calm (not mean or pushy) energy and an understanding that you are new to the animal is probably your best defense. Luckily with horses they won't be walking around the house, so your chances are probably good so long as you don't sit or place anything under one.

Granted, if the owners dealt with their pets better, the animals would have just had better manners, so you can't blame them for it.
 anjelic

Joined: 7/27/2008
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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:11:24 AM
Don't leave you bag on the floor.

Don't stand behind the horse.
 thecatsmeoww

Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:15:59 AM
Well being that I own cats.. my bedroom is off limits to anyone but my children and myself. They hang out there and will give anyone that is not family a ration for even entering the room.. I do cage them at night since I got tired of waking up to a new hairdo every morning.

Cats will spray when they are aware of a strange scent.. The use of Feliway is recommended. It is a pheromone-based diffuser to aid in behavior modification..

I do not think there is a similar product for a dog.. So know if the woman has a male dog to put your bags in a safe place like up in a closet.

As for the horses.. I do not think there will be a problem. Just keep a tall fence between you and them and bring along a carrot and ask how to give it to them properly so you do not lose a few fingers? Make sure you palm is completely flat including all your digits.

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 *motown*cowgirl*

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:18:16 AM
the cat was clearly jealous and had a right to be upset, and the dog was thinking about it but merely being cautious. lucky for you, horses aren't carnivores, don't really have jealousy problems, and don't go around pissing on things to mark what's theirs.

do you want to meet my wolverines??
 imsophie1

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:18:48 AM
After a lifetime spent around horses, I can honestly say that I've never seen one lift its leg to pee on anyone. Although I've seen horses in their owners' houses, I've never seen one pee on the bed. Help themselves to things in the fridge, yes, but never pee on the bed.

Seriously, if you are uncomfortable/afraid when you are introduced to the stallions, just keep a fence between you and the horse. Gender (stallion, mare, gelding) should not make a difference. If the horse has been taught basic manners, there will be no biting, striking, kicking, charging, etc.

For many years I dealt with abused horses who had some serious mental problems created by former owners. Once the rehab was well under way, I never had one "surprise" me with a return to old behaviors. I could introduce strangers to my herd with no fear of anyone sustaining an injury from an animal's actions. From their own inability to pay attention (having your toes stepped on is painful), yes, but never from the direct actions of a horse.

Just be cautious until you are comfortable.
 thecatsmeoww

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:20:57 AM
Just wanted to add that female cats will spray as well. Something people are not aware of and most people think only the males do it..

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 The Magician

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:22:50 AM
I'm seeing a pattern here, be it a short pattern. The pets are male, and they have already determined that they are alpha male in the household, and here you come, invading their territory. Believe it or not, pets have a way of knowing when the alpha male position is threatened, and can deal with that on their own level. If you are going to continue dating ladies that have pets, become more aware of animal behaviour, and learn what you can or cannot do to minimise the effect of your charms in front of the MALE of the house. I would not like to be around when you confront the stallions, and show your alpha status in front of them. It could get pretty ugly.
 red_relaxed

Joined: 7/18/2007
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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:22:57 AM
Unless she's keeping the horses indoors, I think you're fairly safe, although stallions can be dangerous, so keep your baggage and body out of the fenced pasture area and you should avoid any mishaps.

Don't go riding. I see broken bones in your future should you try to mount a stallion, or get trapped in the stall.

Some pets (animals) are just very territorial and it has nothing to do with you personally. Those two pets owned by those women have probably contributed in ruining more than one relationship.

Best of luck on this date!
 thecatsmeoww

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:26:07 AM
topfind said: I was really pizzed off, and since even my PJ’and other clothes in the bag got wet, the trip was almost ruined. The good thing was, I didn’t have to sleep on the couch, so I didn't need my PJ's..

I hope you threw your PJ's directly in the washing machine.. Also cleaned your bag right away.. Am lucky Persians are not normally sprayers and only one of mine will spray and that is only if I put him in a crate that another male was transported in. So his crate is his own and no sharing for him. I could just imagine getting to a show and finding that he had sprayed on the cage mat. That would mean a full bath in the hotel bathroom.. Also the use of my high power dryer would properly dim the lights there if not cause a complete blow out of power..

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 Janet4ever

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:30:32 AM
I'm just impressed you've had three lady friends taken with you enough to invite you to their home for sleep overs!!

After listening to the no-luck lads go on and on with their complaints of no contact on other threads...

I think rather than asking for advice, you should be giving it.

 scottoliver

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:31:59 AM
Yep people and there Pets and animals...

Op I'd suggest you keeping a good fence between you and those 2 horses. Plus a little distance from the fence as well. If the fence looks shaky keep an eye on them. If you turn your back you could get a surprise.
 scottdehart

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:33:06 AM
Well, if the horse start lifting it's leg.....I'd get outta there!
 Twisted Sister

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:38:13 AM
OMG ... too funny!!!!!!!!!!

Pets are territorial and, like any animal (the human kind included), don't like strangers invading their territory.

I dated a guy once who had 2 female cats and a male dog. The dog decided I was his new best friend and followed me everywhere. The cats peed in HIS shoes.
 TryAgan

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Posted: 6/30/2009 10:51:33 AM
A while ago, I watched Canadian program about survival in bush country. The woodsman who narrated the movie, recommended, that when in the bear and cougar country, you should drink a lot of water and mark the perimeter of your campsite.

In your case, if you venture again into an unfamiliar territory, you might consider launching a preemptive strike and mark your bag and a few strategic spots in your gf’s place with your own perfume.
 thecatsmeoww

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Posted: 6/30/2009 11:07:09 AM
totryagain said:In your case, if you venture again into an unfamiliar territory, you might consider launching a preemptive strike and mark your bag and a few strategic spots in your gf’s place with your own perfume.

Having trained dogs in scent discrimination this may or may not work. The longer the nose of the dog the better he is at it.. The longer nosed dog should be able to detect your scent even with perfume sprayed on the bag.

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 bklynrebel

Joined: 11/30/2008
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Posted: 6/30/2009 11:44:42 AM
Don't get mad, get even. Next time lift your leg and pee on the dog. That'll fix his wagon.
 mahgninnuc

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Posted: 6/30/2009 11:46:16 AM
Just be thankful the nice ladys aren't insisting on peeing on you or your bag. Now that would be an experience. Meet your date toss your bag down and as your talking she rips down her drawers and pees on your canvass bag, all while maintaining a pleasent conversattion.

To be honest I would end up laughing so hard I would probably piss myself...as I was making my exit, of course.

 mahgninnuc

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Posted: 6/30/2009 11:48:34 AM
bklynrebel; Don't get mad, get even. Next time lift your leg and pee on the dog. That'll fix his wagon



kind of a twist on what I just said above. both are hilarious.
 SweetSmartNSassy2

Joined: 7/17/2008
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Posted: 6/30/2009 1:41:43 PM
Both animals were clearly "pissed off" at your presence. They were marking their territory.

Don't stand behind the horses! Don't go in the corral with them, either! Stallions will protect "their" women just like a male cat or dog. Remember - horses have bigger, sharper teeth than cats or dogs and REALLY big feet! They know how to use them, too!
And they can run faster than you can!
 caz4

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Posted: 6/30/2009 1:51:23 PM
hi
can anyone help me here, i have a dog and i have met a new partner, when he stayed the night i left my dog who normally sleeps on the end of my bed in the living room and he spent most of the night howling...i know i have spoilt him, what can i do about this situation, cos its certainly spoiling my partner staying here? Caz
 Lil Brooker

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Posted: 6/30/2009 2:00:27 PM

In your case, if you venture again into an unfamiliar territory, you might consider launching a preemptive strike and mark your bag and a few strategic spots in your gf’s place with your own perfume.

Too funny! I suggest "Critter Ridder" by Chemfree when you go on dates with animal lovers. Sprinkle your bag (suitcase) and your bed. Or date women without pets.
 idoc_steve

Joined: 3/20/2009
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Posted: 6/30/2009 2:16:20 PM
As expected, in the first hour, the dog was over me more often than my friend, but eventually he calmed down.


That was your first mistake of many.

Since when is it up to the dog as to whether it can 'be all over you'?

If I was over someones house and the dog started jumping all over me, I would firmly say "No", and remove the dog from my body by firmly pulling on it's collar until it was completely off of me; and repeat as necessary. And I would point out to the owner of the dog, that behavior such as that should be discouraged going forward.

If a person's dog is allowed to treat people in such a way, it speaks volumes about the dog's owner.
 TryAgan

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Posted: 6/30/2009 2:24:53 PM

can anyone help me here, i have a dog and i have met a new partner, when he stayed the night i left my dog who normally sleeps on the end of my bed in the living room and he spent most of the night howling...i know i have spoilt him, what can i do about this situation, cos its certainly spoiling my partner staying here? Caz

I think, you did the right thing.
Just imagine, how much more would he be howling, if he stayed at the end of the bed and had to put up with the show.
 moraima

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Posted: 6/30/2009 2:35:38 PM
Humans will come in contact with animals in their lives. Humans need to be educated at a young age to learn how to handle animals. If a human gets hurt, it is the human who simply didn't know how to handle the animal. People complict the human animal situation..............sigh!
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