| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 6/30/2009 6:02:39 PM | I attended a very interesting conference a few weeks back on Synerology. It continues where Neuro-linguistic programing left off and maps the significance of thousands of body postures, gestures, tics, and stances.
For example, scratching the top of your head: "You're thinking but you'll get it."
Scratching the back of your head: "You're thinking but do not feel confident of figuring it out."
Other examples
looking up: imagining (constructing in your mind)
looking down: feeling (emotional connection)
looking to the left: the past
looking to the right: the future
(in cultures that read left to right)
etc.
There are thousands of such body cues...
I am going to try to learn them all.
:-)
wish me luck. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 6/30/2009 6:07:03 PM | xzanthius, is there a lot differences between having certain mannerisms on the left side over the right side, or vice versa.
You mentioned left=past and right=future, when looking in a direction, but are there other signs pointing to left and right expressing differences. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 6/30/2009 6:15:47 PM | Body language is an established fact. It's so reliable, that poker players use it all the time, as well as salesmen, to great effect. It's not a guarantee. But it's a good indicator of what is likely. Taking a few different body cues can give you a very high probability that you are right.
xzanthius, is there a lot differences between having certain mannerisms on the left side over the right side, or vice versa.
You mentioned left=past and right=future, when looking in a direction, but are there other signs pointing to left and right expressing differences. I know someone used to tell me that whenever someone is working up a lie, they look to the left. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 6/30/2009 6:54:33 PM | There's an enormous number of signals sent though non-verbal cues -- and most people are able to receive significant information in that way naturally without specificly attending to the process or language. To think that there's a specific meaning to each and every reflex, posture or movement would be quite silly. Just as mannerisms play a role in language and communication, regional and culture dialects exist and prevent simplistic translations of various moments and expressions -- as do individuals.
It is the hallmark of a truly great actor that can deliver a complete scene using a suitable expression. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 7/1/2009 1:52:23 AM | | But sometimes you really truly have a physical itch on your head (any spot ) and it really means nothing except that you need to scratch it to relieve it. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 7/1/2009 4:18:44 AM | ^^^^
According to this seminar I attended most itches are not random or accidental, they are signal from our nervous system that we are responding to. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 7/1/2009 4:21:31 AM |
I know someone used to tell me that whenever someone is working up a lie, they look to the left.
It is a little trickier to catch someone ia lie. It was suggested to look for inconsistencies between the verbal and the non-verbal language. For example someone is telling you what happened yesterday but they are looking to the right (future) would indicate an inconsistency, they are not really telling you about yesterday. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 7/2/2009 7:15:52 AM | | It is hard to separate generalized anxiety of the situation from the stress from TELLING THE LIE -- especially if the person can lie like a carpet.... There was a theory about in the 1980s that certain eye movements occurred in response to mental fabrication -- that was loosely based on neuro-motor cortex activities -- but it's not widely respected or accepted at all -- just as lack of eye contact might mean lack of honesty -- as it tends to in 'folklore' or nothing except the person doesn't like making eye contact. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 7/2/2009 7:55:45 AM | | Try it, try to think and talk about the past while looking to your right. I have found that it was hard to do. The brain is wired a certain way. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 7/2/2009 7:59:00 AM | Kreskini is amazing at this thing. He has a lot of books out, some just on that topic!
Also, Hollyweird has started coming out with series showcasing this "science". "Lie to Me", "The Mentalist", such shows. everyone thinks they are going to be an "expert" by taking a few courses or whatever, but it is actually a lifelong and continuous endeavour.
Some people can lie quite effectively. As far as I know there is only two ways to lie effectively. Otherwise you are just wasting your time and the listeners.
By simply casting my eyes to thr right as I state something can make it "seem" as if I am lying. The "lie" occurs when I conciously make body movements to throw off the listener. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 7/2/2009 10:30:09 AM |
...There are thousands of such body cues...
I am going to try to learn them all....
Once you have done so, take up poker.
...The best way to lie is to 'believe' your own lies. If your 'belief' is deep enough you can even cheat lie detectors...
So True.
"It's Not a Lie, If You Believe It."
G. Costanza | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 7/2/2009 8:18:51 PM | | There's tricks any con can use to cheat a lie detector -- that's why they are not admissible in any court of law. About the only time they really work well is when the subject totally believes they do work.... ( they get very tense if they are telling what they believe is a phony story). And the looking left / looking right / looking up etc etc... it is like a placebo effect -- the expectations of the subject drive it -- so any real organic causes there might be in neurological wiring of the brain are so deeply buried under the paradigm bias that it's effectively irrelevant. | |
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| Synerology (science of body language)
Posted: 7/3/2009 4:22:04 AM | ^^^^
How can looking left, right, scratching your chin, head, etc (body movements) be irrelevant because of subject bias when the subject is not even aware that such interpretations are possible?
I too was incredulous when I first came across this discipline, nice try, but as far as I am concerned (and as far as the science is concerned) it still stands.
It take more than total belief in lie detectors for them to work. You could hook someone up without their knowledge and the the detector would still pick out the lie. Peope don't get 'really' tense when they lie, they get subliminally tense. | |
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