| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 8:41:27 AM | | Poor old Ronnie Biggs refused parole yet again by the home secretary, a harmless oldman , meanwhile they let child murderers out after only a few years. I'd never vote for those new labour b*******s again. They really show there vindictive true colours in still making an example of him. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 8:48:08 AM | He was sentenced to 30 years
He served 2 and then escaped
Spent the next 30 years living it up in Australia and Brazil on his share of the proceeds from the train robbery
He returned to the UK in 2001 and has been in jail since, meaning he has only served a third of his original sentence.
Seems fair enough to me
oh and he had an appeal turned down in 2005 after his lawyer claimed Bigg's death was 'imminent' | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 8:56:34 AM | 35 years is what he got, he was not even on the train. Hes an oldman in a wheelchair,keeping him inside is an act of vindictiveness, from the same home secretary who lets childs killers out on parole every week.
You've got a strange sense of justice. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 9:01:25 AM | Don't the crime if you can't do the time.....at anytime.
Vindictive would have been to send a hitman out to Rio to slot him years ago....he was out there taking the pi$$ out of everyone knowing he could'nt be touched. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 9:04:53 AM | | Well its just lucky smarmys not a criminal offence otherwise you'd be doing life without parole my friend. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 9:05:30 AM | | I'm not your friend, what is your problem? having a small penis doesn't mean you have to be so nasty...get over it. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 9:06:57 AM |
35 years is what he got, he was not even on the train.
So what?
He was involved in the robbery, received 30-odd years, and chose not to serve them until he was in his 60s. That's HIS choice, not the Home Secretary's.
Hes an oldman in a wheelchair
So what?
Do we let Sutcliffe out on account of his partial blindness?
keeping him inside is an act of vindictiveness
Possibly so - it's time the Home Office showed a little more vindictiveness towards criminals.....
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 9:22:24 AM |
Poor old Ronnie Biggs refused parole yet again by the home secretary, a harmless oldman
Tell that to the family of the train driver who was bludgeoned half to death by the harmless old mans gang, and who never recovered from his injuries. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 9:30:47 AM | ^^ Exactly... This isn't some movie script.. Real people got hurt... Ronnie Biggs is a criminal... He should die behind bars...
Just because idiotic judges refuse to sentence other criminals properly doesn't mean that Biggs should be treated more leniently...
Oh and Shabba, you can smarm my way any time... | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 9:52:49 AM | | He was refused parole because he was not repentant in his actions at all and under the judicial system he should remain behind bars and rightly so. It was a violent crime and he is now being rightly punished, his health should not be a deciding factor or his age, just whether he is repentant and rehabilitated and paid for his crime. The consensus was he hadn't. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 10:05:18 AM | ^^^^^^He is an old man in a wheelchair.
I wonder if people would feel the same for Huntley when he`s old.
The guy is totally unrepentant.Let him rot. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 10:09:17 AM | from the same home secretary who lets childs killers out on parole every week.
Blimey, that's a bit scary. 26 child killers have been released so far this year then? You have their names so that you can confirm this of course? I'd be very interested to see them.
Ronnie Biggs is not the people's hero some make him out to be. The Great Train Robbery was looked on by some as a 'victimless crime', but it was a ruthless and violent robbery. Jack Mills, the train driver was seriously injured and never worked again. Most of the gang had previous convictions for robbery and violence.
Biggs was given a 30 year sentence, he has only served about 10 years so far. Why should he be released? | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 10:14:29 AM | Another Joe and Shabba show - more great entertainment! Biggs had a relatively comfy life abroad when he should have been in prison. He came home cos he was broke and ill. He won't be the first prisoner to die in goal. Do the time Ronnie. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 10:15:55 AM | | You guys sound like a bunch of daily Mail reading curtain twitchers, well everyone to their own but I will always side with the underdog. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 10:25:29 AM | so let me get this right because i am now confused. You are siding with him because he is the "underdog" ? How very logical. Have you been out in the sun much today? You need to re think your argument if that is the best you can come up with  | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 10:27:38 AM | Playing devils advocate .................
Considering prisons are now deemed places of rehabilitation and not places of punishment and Ronnie Biggs has to my knowledge not committed a crime whilst on the run for 30 odd years then what exactly have they got to rehabilitate ?
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 10:44:30 AM | I may well be wrong but I thought that parole was the term for an early release? That the prisonner was to show signs of repentance and rehabilitation? Biggs appeared in a TV interview catagorically stating that he had no regrets, in fact he was get to have earned his place in history!
everyone to their own but I will always side with the underdog.
I would say that the underdog in that situation was the unarmed man described below. VV
Tell that to the family of the train driver who was bludgeoned half to death by the harmless old mans gang, and who never recovered from his injuries. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 11:46:17 AM |
I will always side with the underdog.
Regardless of what they have done?
Wasn't the train guard the 'underdog' when he faced a vicious gang of thugs that night?
Doesn't HIS family deserve justice, after what happened to him?
Considering prisons are now deemed places of rehabilitation and not places of punishment and Ronnie Biggs has to my knowledge not committed a crime whilst on the run for 30 odd years then what exactly have they got to rehabilitate ?
Nothing...........but the punishment aspect still has to be observed. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 12:37:47 PM | I would not usually post on a thread like this; I'd leave it to the****ey boys.
However, I do think it's an absolute travesty of justice that Ronnie rots while people like Ian Huntley have chance of parole.
Think about it. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 12:47:18 PM |
However, I do think it's an absolute travesty of justice that Ronnie rots while people like Ian Huntley have chance of parole.
Think about it.
Thought about it, hardly been rotting since he first got sentenced has he? Its a clear message to all would-be escapers, all that "poor Ronnie" shite makes me laugh, if he died today He's still not done half of his time. | |
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 12:53:25 PM |
However, I do think it's an absolute travesty of justice that Ronnie rots while people like Ian Huntley have chance of parole.
If Biggs had stayed in prison, he would be a free man by now - it wasn't anybody's fault other than his thathe chose not to serve his time as a younger man.
As for Huntley, he will serve a minimum of 40 years BEFORE he is considered for parole - he'll be 68 before he can apply.
I would not usually post on a thread like this; I'd leave it to the****ey boys.
I have no idea what letters have been blanked out, but the comment is surely ironic!
Its a clear message to all would-be escapers, all that "poor Ronnie" shite makes me laugh, if he died today He's still not done half of his time.
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| Ronnie Biggs refused Parole again Posted: 7/1/2009 12:57:01 PM |
Think about it
OK, I've thought about it.
The simple fact is that, unless the courts decide otherwise, a prisoner can apply for parole after half of their sentence has been served. That doesn't mean they will get it, just that they can apply for it.
Biggs has only served about 10 years of a 30 year sentence so, on that basis, it would be 5 years before he can apply for parole. I don't know if he had any more time added to his sentence for escaping for 30 odd years but if he didn't, he should have. If so, it will be more than 5 years before he can apply.
Huntley has been told that he can't apply for parole until 2042. The minimum term he must serve is 40 years.
I'm sorry but I can't go along with the 'Poor Ronnie' idea. The guy is a thug who committed a nasty crime. He should serve the time he was given. He was bloody lucky to have been able to spend 30 years living the life of Riley. If he hadn't escaped I expect he'd have been freed about 20 years ago. So whose fault is it that he's still in prison. His!! | |
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