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 cooldude

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Posted: 7/3/2009 1:15:18 AM
I have been a doctor Who fan since the third doctor Jon Pertwee on PBS channel. But missed a lot of shows when I joined the military. It was canceled for 9 years, but boy, when they brought it back, it was better then ever. Already in the 4th season of the newer seres. The plots are excellent along with updated special effects. I even like the spin-off series Torchwood. Not much Dr. Who this year except for 4 specials it should be back regularly in 2010. So are some of you guys eagerly awaiting for the 5th season?
 Vancer

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Posted: 7/3/2009 2:22:07 AM
I don't get to see that many episodes. When is it on?
I thought it was on CBC, fridays at 9pm at one point.
One thing I really like about it is the theme song. It brings back memories of the old show I used to watch as a child, but now it has this epic kick to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irGFjO9caxc



Edit: Did they ever tie up that whole 'bad wolf' bit. That was one of the things that was really nagging at me to sit down and watch em all at one point.
 cooldude

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Posted: 7/3/2009 2:54:10 AM
Here we get it on the Scifi channel on cable.



Edit: Did they ever tie up that whole 'bad wolf' bit. That was one of the things that was really nagging at me to sit down and watch em all at one point.



I think they did, Starting with the episode "Bad Wolf"...lol ( Two Parts ) ending with "The Parting of the Ways" at the end of season one. I hate to give you the ending of that, it might ruin it for you. It does give you most of the answers to that question. But it does have to do with the Dalek's though. Well worth watching.

I really like how they hint all through season one about "Bad Wolf" I think in almost every episode.
 EvilLolli

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Posted: 7/3/2009 5:22:42 AM
It's on every Saturday on BBCAmerica. They did answer the "Bad Wolf" thing. The new series of them seems to be able to pull in bigger, better known British actors/stars. Like Catherine Tate, Kylie Monoque(sp?), and Simon Peg. They Even brough back K-9 for an episode. I think you can find the episodes on the BBCAmerica website too.
 cooldude

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Posted: 7/3/2009 6:35:25 AM

I think you can find the episodes on the BBCAmerica website too.


You got my hopes up! But you have to buy the episodes, it appears. You can watch them free from the BBC website but have to be in England to watch.
 Timelord-NW

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Posted: 7/3/2009 9:15:18 AM
Big Doctor Who fan here, hence my user name haha.
I also own a full-size Dalek - kept in my garage and only let out when unwanted guests turn up.
 AwP

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Posted: 7/3/2009 11:17:02 AM
Google "dr who streaming" and you can watch it for free on the internet.
 thrums

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Posted: 7/3/2009 11:17:41 AM

You got my hopes up! But you have to buy the episodes, it appears


Dr. Who seasons 1-4 and Torchwood seasons 1 & 2 are available to buy from the usual suspects. There are also many dvds available of the original series including the very first episode. Many here in the US don't realize that the original series was a kids program and was watched by very young kids, often hiding behind the sofa and peering round the side if the urban legends are to be believed.
The new series is definitely much slicker than the original, which is not surprising considering the budget for one episode is probably mere than the budget for a complete season of the original. I also like the new format with the story in one episode instead of being over several weeks.
A novelty single was released in the UK many years ago which was a big hit, it was called "Doctorin the Tardis' by 'The Timelords'. The guys behind the song went on to form the group the KLF.
 thrums

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Posted: 7/3/2009 11:20:38 AM

The new series of them seems to be able to pull in bigger, better known British actors/stars. Like Catherine Tate, Kylie Monoque(sp?), and Simon Peg.


Kylie Minogue is an Aussie!
 cooldude

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Posted: 7/3/2009 12:33:20 PM

Many here in the US don't realize that the original series was a kids program and was watched by very young kids


Actually, I did...lol At least with the first doctor, William Hartnell. But somewhere down the line made it more for everybody.


I also like the new format with the story in one episode instead of being over several weeks.


Me too. I think it originally had like three or four 20 minute segments for one complete story. The USA PBS versions put them together as a full hour.
 2findU

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Posted: 7/3/2009 12:57:56 PM
I'm a fan of the original and the new series. I think my introduction to The Dr. was a movie I had seen on TV in the mid 60's. It starred Peter Cushing as The Dr. It was titled "Dr. Who and The Daleks". Then I started watching it on TV in the early 70's when and independent local station started it with Tom Baker as The Dr. with Sarah as his traveling companion. That was before PBS started running them in 80's.
 thrums

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Posted: 7/3/2009 2:15:06 PM

Actually, I did...lol At least with the first doctor, William Hartnell. But somewhere down the line made it more for everybody.


It still is a kids program to this day and that includes the new series. On the dvds for the new series and its spinoff, Torchwood, Russell T. Davies(BBC Wales, the person responsible for the revival) said that Torchwood was the first adult-based Dr. Who series.


Me too. I think it originally had like three or four 20 minute segments for one complete story. The USA PBS versions put them together as a full hour.


The number of segments would vary according to the time of year and the budget, it could be as many as seven. Did anyone notice that the following week the cliff-hanger was not quite as bad as was portrayed the week before?
 thrums

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Posted: 7/3/2009 2:23:19 PM

I think my introduction to The Dr. was a movie I had seen on TV in the mid 60's. It starred Peter Cushing as The Dr. It was titled "Dr. Who and The Daleks".


Peter Cushing did a second made-for-tv Dr. Who movie called 'Daleks Invasion Earth 2150 A. D.


Then I started watching it on TV in the early 70's when and independent local station started it with Tom Baker as The Dr. with Sarah as his traveling companion.


BBC Wales did a spinoff of the episode where the current Dr met Sarah Jane called 'The Sarah Jane Adventures' which is an Earth-based kids program.
 cooldude

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Posted: 7/3/2009 3:04:10 PM

It still is a kids program to this day and that includes the new series. On the dvds for the new series and its spinoff, Torchwood, Russell T. Davies(BBC Wales, the person responsible for the revival) said that Torchwood was the first adult-based Dr. Who series.


I can't really comment on the earlier 63 version of Dr Who, but I don't see more recent versions ( Expecially the 2005-2010 ) being considered more for children.

I see more "The Sarah Jane Adventures" definitely more being targeted for young children.

Science fiction started to dominate & started to venture away from the "Historical" values the show originally taught in around the late 60's. Even in the 70's it was brought up many times whether it might not be suitable for younger audiences.
 2findU

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Posted: 7/3/2009 3:48:26 PM

Peter Cushing did a second made-for-tv Dr. Who movie called 'Daleks Invasion Earth 2150 A. D.


I think I saw that one too.
 Chuck Noland

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Posted: 7/3/2009 9:10:15 PM
Tom Baker was the BEST Dr. of 'em all!!
 EvilLolli

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Posted: 7/3/2009 9:18:44 PM
Ok my bad about Kylie, I am not up on my foreign music pop stars.

I notice no one mentioned the other Dr. Who spin off "The Sarah Jane Chronicles" where K-9 is a regular part or that that one is mostly geared to kids.

Yea, so shoot me I am a chick that digs the Dr. Watched it as a kid, watch it now that it's back. Though I prefer the new series.
 spicynicegirl

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Posted: 7/4/2009 1:14:41 AM
I was never a Dr Who fan but I'm loving the new series. It's excellent.
 johninsd

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Posted: 7/4/2009 10:56:46 AM
FWIW I found .torrents of the complete collection of Third, Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Doctors. Unfortunately, most of the First and Second Doctor episodes are lost forever. For a while, every now and then some dude in a BBC station in Greece or Algeria or something would turn up a couple of cans from some dusty corner. But if anyone managed such a find today, 40 years later... I don't know how good the film could be at this point.

I could never get into Colin Baker and I've never seen the newer series' I may check them out one day.
 *Starstuff*

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Posted: 7/4/2009 12:41:01 PM
I agree that Tom Baker was the best. But, many people feel that which ever Dr. they began watching first is the one they liked the best.

I was surprised to find that Tom Baker played the bad guy in The Golden Voyage of Sinbad. One of those movies with the stop-action animation of monsters and such. He's actually done a LOT of things but most being British productions, we aren't as aware of them.

My Doctors list in order of favorite to least favorite:
Tom Baker (4th) - He did the most number of episodes.
Jon Pertwee (3rd)
Patrick Troughton (2nd)
Peter Davison (5th)
William Hartnell (1st)
Colin Baker (6th)

I only saw a couple of episodes with Sylvester McCoy so didn't have an opinion on him.

I also loved the original The Master, Roger Delgado. That dark, handsome, suave, bad guy. I always liked that look but would prefer it in a good guy. lol

I haven't seen any of the new ones. Will have to join netflix and see about getting them to watch.

What are fans of Dr. Who called? Are they Whovians? I guess I am one. I read all the books up through Sylvester McCoy. I saw the traveling exhibit and sat in Bessie (John and Tom's old car), met a couple of companions. Have a couple of action figures. Helped one son become a dalek for Halloween. Made a Tom Baker scarf for a nephew who was also a fan. I'm sure there's more. So, I'm as much of a Whovian as I am a Trekker/Trekkie.

I just LOVE sci-fi!
 cooldude

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Posted: 7/4/2009 1:15:55 PM
My favorite doctor was Tom Baker, but now is tied with the 10th doctor, David Tennant. In second place is Jon Pertwee. Not sure about the other doctors as have not seen them much.

I think there are some episodes that are reconstructed as far as the missing ones.
 thrums

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Posted: 7/4/2009 1:23:48 PM

I can't really comment on the earlier 63 version of Dr Who, but I don't see more recent versions ( Expecially the 2005-2010 ) being considered more for children.

I see more "The Sarah Jane Adventures" definitely more being targeted for young children.

Science fiction started to dominate & started to venture away from the "Historical" values the show originally taught in around the late 60's. Even in the 70's it was brought up many times whether it might not be suitable for younger audiences.


The original series, Hartnell to McCoy was always classed as a children's series, apart from some schedule changes towards the end, the show always went out at 5 PM on a Saturday and was watched by a younger audience(and an older one).
I have the dvds for the new series, Torchwood and Sarah Jane and Davies refers to Torchwood as the first Dr. Who series for an adult-based audience. While the new series may not be classed as a kids program, it is very kid friendly. I am not sure when it is aired in the UK but is is well before the watershed! If you watch closely there is no bad language(swearing), no nudity, virtually no sexual innuendo or any blood and guts.
In the second series(first episode for David Tennant) the Doctor loses a hand in a sword fight with the bad guy, there is no blood and because he in still in his regeneration cycle the hand grows back and he defeats the bad guy.
In the UK the original series was never considered unsuitable for younger audiences.
 thrums

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Posted: 7/4/2009 1:28:58 PM

Unfortunately, most of the First and Second Doctor episodes are lost forever. For a while, every now and then some dude in a BBC station in Greece or Algeria or something would turn up a couple of cans from some dusty corner. But if anyone managed such a find today, 40 years later... I don't know how good the film could be at this point.


Unfortunately the BBC did not have the foresight to see how popular the series would be in the future. The original episode was discovered as you describe and painstakingly restored from more than one source. There is also a couple of dvds that have audio only of scenes from the first two doctors.
 thrums

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Posted: 7/4/2009 1:32:56 PM

I only saw a couple of episodes with Sylvester McCoy so didn't have an opinion on him.


Unfortunately Sylvester got to oversee the end(fortunately temporary) of the series and I don't think the powers-at-be really cared at that time.
 Vancer

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Posted: 7/4/2009 2:14:10 PM
I managed to see a lot of the earlier episodes a long time ago, and although the first few doctors were interesting, I didn't really enjoy watching them as much as Tom Baker onward. They were coming across as sagely figures trying to force vibrancy into themselves.
Tom Baker's portrayal was very sombre, and but somehow childish at the time.
I think he helped make the further eccentricities of the Dr. very believable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfisgGuuUD8

Although I remember seeing a ton of Tom Baker episodes when I first started watching it, I really liked Peter Davison portrayal and got into Dr. Who a lot more during that time. He was a real departure from the previous ones, and felt like a peer to his companions. I remember Adric dying was such a big event that actually did change him.

The next incarnation's personality, Colin Baker, almost seemed like defensive mechanisms kicked in to get away from the past loss due to previous shortcomings of the Dr. character. Colin Baker's incarnation temporarily killed my interest in the series. He felt pretty darn abrasive at times. Almost like he didn't want to feel tied to his companions anymore.
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