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 Blue.Water

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 2:57:12 PM
Interesting article in the Daily Mail about a 42 year old woman who put her career first until now is complaining that men over 40 dont want to have children.

The woman says quote "Due to men I cant have a child. Its not right".

A number of men replied saying that they had children when they were younger and their ex partners / wives had put them off having more children for life!

One man in particular said he was a devoted husband and father but after catching his wife in bed with someone the marriage fell apart. He said he lost 70% stake in the house, 50% of his pension, he pays 20% of his income in maintenance and his ex plays games re letting him see the children.

Another guy said that due to the laws and society being totally weighted towards women, its hardly surprising men who have been married etc before would remotely consider going through it again.

In the same paper a Judge ruling on pre-nuptual agreements said marriage is no longer for life and it is a fact of modern life that relationships fail regularly.

Given women usually have residency of children and as such are awarded the lions share of finances, is it any wonder why the women who wrote into the paper says what she has?
 Chat Monster

Joined: 6/8/2009
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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 3:00:41 PM
Daily Mail


I switched off at this point.
 shabbawanks

Joined: 4/16/2009
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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 3:04:11 PM
Cobblers, one woman moaning doesn't mean all women. There are plenty of people out there of either sex who have probably left it too late to have kids because they wanted to pursue a career, this is not a gender issue it's a modern society issue.
 Wafta

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 3:12:45 PM
I don't blame them really, once you're over 40 that part of your life should be done and dusted and you should be looking forward to being kid free again!

I'm 40 and have a 14 year old and a 9 year old and, if I met a bloke who wanted kids, I'd tell him where to go without a second thought. I've done my bit and I'd imagine most people over 40 have and would rather not go there again!
 Firecraka1

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 3:15:26 PM
Yeah I'd not want any now either but am sure there are men out there who want one final display of machismo during their mid life crisis and what better way than impregnating someone?
 shabbawanks

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 3:16:21 PM

I've done my bit and I'd imagine most people over 40 have and would rather not go there again!


Absobloodylutely!
 *nats*

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 3:58:15 PM
I echo Wafta

I have a 10 yr old and a 3 yr old and no way, not for anyone, would I have another child, I'm 40 and as far as I'm concerned the nappy days are well and truly over!

The woman had a choice, she could have actively looked for a partner 10 years ago if she was that desperate for a child, not leave it until the medical risks have risen tenfold

There is actually quite a few guys in my search area on this site who don't have kids and have ticked wanting them .. maybe she should join POF and move to Glasgow?
 MrGravel

Joined: 5/16/2009
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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 4:08:03 PM

say that sperm donor's beyond the age of 46 no longer have desirable sperm


WOOT! Mine's still desirable; anyone want to buy a teespoon full send me an SAE
Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 4:08:04 PM
Most women over40 have already begun to resemble their mothers, so who in their right mind would want to be responsible for fathering another potential minger ? The Lord acts in mysterious ways, and this is one of them, so be thankful for the early warnings and avoid potential parentage with anybody over 30. .....surely the taste itself is enough to put you off.
 nortyraskull

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 4:20:50 PM

I've done my bit and I'd imagine most people over 40 have and would rather not go there again!


I hope this is'nt goint to turn into a Norty bashing thread, out of my 14 kids, 2 of them where concieved in my 40's, and I'm a responsible single father, its what keeps me young!
 Firecraka1

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 4:36:17 PM
What is desirable sperm???

I guess it depends on what you want to do with it really doesn't it?

I mean if you want to make ice lollies out of it then it's probably OK.

If you want to use it to rub in for the vitamin E benefits as a night cream then would it be OK for that?

How about for sticking down the joins on the wallpaper? Is it still good for that after 46?
 Joe1uk

Joined: 6/10/2009
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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/4/2009 7:16:42 PM
I don't mind either way, I'm a bit old for starting a family I suppose but I'm open minded to it if the situation arose. The blame game from either sex either for or against is a bit petty and immature really. Its just peoples preferences, they're entitled to them.
 saddle-tramp

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 12:10:35 AM
Ad hominums are a sign that someone has lost the argument before they began...
 tm1971

Joined: 5/22/2009
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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 12:20:08 AM
I can see why men over 40 do not want any more children when their own are grown up, why on earth would someone want to go through it all again?

Unfortunately a lot of women are waiting until their 30's to have children these days unfortunately men do not always feel the same.
 *kath*

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 12:20:27 AM
This is the trouble when a woman wants a career and just assumes that she can slot children in at a later point.



The woman says quote "Due to men I cant have a child. Its not right".


No,it's due to her lifestyle choices in the past.There are other ways she can still have a child if she so wishes.

I dont blame anybody who refuses to have a child over the age of 40,I know I wouldn't want one at that age.

People seem to make their initial choices in life without thinking too far into the future and then want to point the finger of blame on anyone else when they realise that they cannot have their cake and eat it on demand.

Edit..I wonder if these women over 40 condsider the risk of genetic abnormalities when they yearn for these babies.
 fairy-ellen

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 12:29:57 AM
i had children in my twenties, and i have 2 children one a 40 and the other at 41, the one at 41 not planned but a blessing and bloody hard work as the so called father decide he had a better offer else where.............. his loss
 tm1971

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 12:34:26 AM
Bloody hell Ellen you are a brave woman. I had my daughter at 36 and they are hard work.

Kath just like you said career came first children never came into the equation so when it happened i took it upon myself. But it is hard work balancing a career and a child especially as all of my immediate family live in SA. Women can not blame mature men for not wanting children any longer, most view that once kids are grown up it is their time and fair enough.
 fairy-ellen

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 1:31:56 AM
Thank you....can i just point out my chidlren in my twenties where from my marraige, and the two other children from a rebound relationship so only 2 fathers involved ......
 Martini216

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 5:12:24 AM
Im not sure starting a family in your 40's is responsible...are you really able enough to keep up with teenagers in your 50's / 60's..? at what age do your children become totally independant, and what age will you be when they do.....will you then be dependant on them...?

just a thought
 hunnibelle

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 5:23:32 AM
ahem! I have just turned 50 this week and am a proud lone parent of a 14 yr old and a 22 yr old. I dont feel I have "trouble" keeping up with them, they are my boys simply that. I dont see myself as an old parent but i would draw the line at considering child birth in my 40's simply coz there are better things to do in your 40's lol xx hunni
 *nats*

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 5:31:02 AM

Im not sure starting a family in your 40's is responsible...are you really able enough to keep up with teenagers in your 50's / 60's..?



As long as a woman is able to have a child naturally then I don't see the problem. However, the risk of abnormalities in the baby increases the older you get.

What I really don't approve of is the women in their late 50's and early 60's using donor eggs and IVF to have children. That is way too old and in those cases the kids could end up being their parents carer before the kids hit their teens
 nortyraskull

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 5:37:47 AM

Im not sure starting a family in your 40's is responsible...are you really able enough to keep up with teenagers in your 50's / 60's..?


I did'nt start a family in my 40's, just added to it, you dont really believe that 50 and 60 year olds cant cope with teenagers do you? Its not old in this day and age, my folks are 84 and 86 and its only through mum breaking her hip that she's not as mobile as she was, other than that they get swamped with grandkids and great grandkids most days, and they love it!

I'm 50 now and wouldnt really want any more kids, but in my 40's it was never a worry to me.
 WishfulThinking72

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Posted: 7/5/2009 5:50:23 AM
She should join this site because at least 8O% of the men in their 4Os who contact me state in their profiles that they want children (even though I state I don't).
 fairy-ellen

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Daily Mail - Women complaining that men over 40 dont want to give them a child
Posted: 7/5/2009 8:41:54 AM
Well i have children in my forties as stated its tiring and hard work but a am doing it as a lone parent something that i didnt plan on....but im fit healthly and they keep me very young and im sure i will be around to see them well into their late twenties ......
 kiltedking

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Posted: 7/5/2009 12:10:56 PM
any of the over 40s want to get some practise in...
drop me a line
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