OKRob
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Joined: 6/4/2009
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 5:23:29 AM | Has anybody else noticed that laughing and crying are exactly the same thing except for what we feel in our heads???
Laughing... Short and sharp but deep breathing, heaving shoulders, tears.
Crying... Short and sharp but deep breathing, heaving shoulders, tears.
Are the physical actions of laughing and crying identical and it's only the emotion that differs? Or is this little observation entirely wrong?  | |
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 5:38:43 AM | | it has been known for me to have a streak of snot across my face when im laughing as well as crying, so i think you are on to something here... | |
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O.B.I
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Joined: 6/20/2009
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 5:39:49 AM | Hmmm... interesting observation. Especially considering that if you laugh hard enough it can often appear as though you're crying. There's also "crying with happiness."
I've just thought of another question:
"Why does the body need to physically react to emotion?" | |
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HenXX
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Joined: 6/16/2009
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 5:41:08 AM | | Anyone ever wet their pants crying?.............me neither. | |
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O.B.I
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Joined: 6/20/2009
Msg: 5 | |
| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 5:45:56 AM | Nabbed this from Wikipedia (it's as reliable as any source, really):
The question of the function or origin of emotional tears remains open. Theories range from the simple, such as response to inflicted pain, to the more complex, including nonverbal communication in order to elicit "helping" behaviour from others.[10]
In Hippocratic and medieval medicine, tears were associated with the bodily humours, and crying was seen as purgation of excess humours from the brain.[11] William James thought of emotions as reflexes prior to rational thought, believing that the physiological response, as if to stress or irritation, is a precondition to cognitively becoming aware of emotions such as fear or anger.
William H. Frey II, a biochemist at the University of Minnesota, proposed that people feel "better" after crying, due to the elimination of hormones associated with stress, specifically adrenocorticotropic hormone.[12] This, paired with increased mucosal secretion during crying, could lead to a theory that crying is a mechanism developed in humans to dispose of this stress hormone when levels grow too high.
Recent psychological theories of crying emphasize its relationship to the experience of perceived helplessness.[13] From this perspective, an underlying experience of helplessness can usually explain why people cry; for example, a person may cry after receiving surprisingly happy news, ostensibly because the person feels powerless or unable to influence what is happening.
After contemplating it for a short while I'd come to the conclusion that it was probably a form of natural body language, in the sense that we are all born with the knowledge and means to communicate through this medium (The first paragraph of the above passage, basically). | |
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 5:51:04 AM |
Anyone ever wet their pants crying?.............me neither.
PMSL ...  | |
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OKRob
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Joined: 6/4/2009
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 5:53:32 AM | Good one OBI.
This is something else I have thought of from time to time. The words we used were invented by us. Emotions and tiny sounds or outbursts are a invented by nature.
I get the point about crying being the bodies way of making somebody notice that you/them/me need help...
What about this one.....
Sorry to change my own topic slightly.....
Anybody who has slept in the same bed as a loved one. When you're falling asleep and touching feet and getting comfy....
The deep sighs that sometimes escape or the verbal Mmmmm's that get swapped or even when you make a tiny noise when stretching or rolling over....
All natural communication designed by nature to express your current frame of mind :)
I guess laughing and crying simply fall into that category? | |
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 6:00:15 AM | It's got me wondering now if it is something still with us from how we used to communicate as monkeys?... They are always whooing and harring.
I hate my monkey laugh sometimes.  | |
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OKRob
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Joined: 6/4/2009
Msg: 9 | |
| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 6:04:01 AM | | Exactly.... I wish my hairy back and shiny red ass would evolve and disappear | |
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Pud78
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Joined: 4/23/2009
Msg: 10 | |
| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 6:11:42 AM | We use differing parts of our brains for differing functions and I believe we have an emotional part of brain and I assuming probably wildly that the physical attributes that can control for emotional are similar? really I have no idea but assume that we do it to communicate or response.
Children fall over and they get up and don't make a sound and are fine but want to convey a small pain they will then start to cry, communicating they want comforting, We can surpress laughter and tears so we don't have to do them but chose to do so as they convey how we are feeling. | |
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HenXX
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Joined: 6/16/2009
Msg: 11 | |
| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 6:28:14 AM | Ever hit your thumb with a hammer????........Its a natural release of pain......simple.
If it were just to convey to people how we feel it would go along the lines of this........"my dear,i have just hit my finger with the hammer,give me a hug"........instead it goes along the lines of ........"Arrrrrrr,*ukn *loody*astard!!!!!" which is releasing the pain. | |
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*kath*
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Joined: 9/30/2008
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 6:41:24 AM | Anyone ever wet their pants crying?.............me neither.
Na never, ever and especially not after having 2 two kids and ignoring all advice to do pelvic floor excercises.............................if this ever were to happen the laughing might seamlessly become crying hypothetically of course | |
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 6:42:31 AM | | Personally my laughter and crying are totally different, when i 'really' laugh it hurts and my face aches and it's a very strong emotion, when i cry its silent and slow, i don't think i have ever sobbed! just cried. | |
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OKRob
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Joined: 6/4/2009
Msg: 15 | |
| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 6:47:39 AM |
Personally my laughter and crying are totally different, when i 'really' laugh it hurts and my face aches and it's a very strong emotion, when i cry its silent and slow, i don't think i have ever sobbed! just cried.
Yep, I get exactly what you mean......
Is this just a difference though between a good belly laugh or a giggle compared with sobbing uncontroably or having a little sniffle.
There ws something else in this thread.... Hitting your thumb with a hammer. You're agreeing but simply wording it differently ;) | |
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HenXX
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Joined: 6/16/2009
Msg: 16 | |
| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 6:59:20 AM | Rob......I do agree with the basis of what you are saying but I see the release of the physical pain or emotional pain the main reason why we cry .....akin to a pot boiling over,it has to be released somehow.I think it is an added bonus,especially as a mum that it conveys the need of help.Also,how many of us cry behind closed doors when nobody is around?.........that is crying purely for release.
You saying that rob does make me think of the times I have hurt myself and been between the two,laughing and crying.....Its a strange one.
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OKRob
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Joined: 6/4/2009
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O.B.I
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Joined: 6/20/2009
Msg: 18 | |
| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 7:44:59 AM |
This is something else I have thought of from time to time. The words we used were invented by us. Emotions and tiny sounds or outbursts are a invented by nature.
If someone were to call you an "***hole" and you had absolutely no knowledge of the English language, do you think you'd still react emotionally? Would their body language alone be clear enough to convey the insult and ensure its full impact?
If you were completely unable to understand the concept of death, would you still cry at the funeral of a close friend or relative?
It does leave one wondering how integral indoctrination is in the formation of a developing mind.
We use differing parts of our brains for differing functions and I believe we have an emotional part of brain and I assuming probably wildly that the physical attributes that can control for emotional are similar?
There was a similar topic to this in another forum regarding Podophilia, or "foot fetish" as it's most commonly known. One theory postulates that our nerves often confuse the respective locations of our body parts, leading us to mistakenly associate the genitals with feet, hence their sexual significance to some.
Your suggestion that there's a physical/mental crossfire sounds fairly plausible to me. | |
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mart-b
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Joined: 6/16/2009
Msg: 19 | |
| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 12:13:11 PM | Dated a woman a few years ago, who, when she had an orgasm, sounded as if she was crying
Just toooooooo weird, she had to go......eventually
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 12:35:30 PM | | Apparantly laughing(as long as you smile whilst doing it!)uses more muscles in the face than frowning! So to save my youthful looks(?) I would prefer to laugh than cry anyday!As for the same sort of actions...well I feel happy endorphins when I laugh and friggin upset when I cry! I hope I don't look or sound the same when experiencing each seperate emotion! How confused would that make people around me! | |
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 5:09:26 PM | I think that anything coming out of our bodies is quite pleasurable or perhaps that's not the word - a relief perhaps. I think our body likes to get rid of stuff now and again and have a nice clean out.
Sometimes it takes extreme emotion to stimulate the production of whatever our body is throwing out at the time.
I sometimes laugh at myself for crying and I often cry laughing and I do wee myself too sometimes. Tena come in handy.
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/6/2009 11:51:02 PM | | crying cleanses the soul not sure about laughing though | |
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| Laughing and crying.
Posted: 7/7/2009 12:20:40 AM |
"Why does the body need to physically react to emotion?"
The body has no choice in the matter, so it cannot have a 'need' to react.........it just does!
Life would be very dull without emotions...... | |
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