| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:02:49 AM | A teacher is being held on suspicion of attempted murder after striking a pupil with a 2kg metal weight.Almost killing one pupil and injuring two others.
The teacher had only recently returned back to work after a stress related stroke.He picked up the weight and allegedy shouted "people are going to die" before launching his attack after receiving "psycho " jibes from pupils.
Was this just a ticking timebomb,A result of a namby pamby society that have stripped teachers of their rights to control pupils actions?.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/112795/Teacher-held-on-suspicion-of-pupil-s-attempted-murder- | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:06:18 AM |
Was this just a ticking timebomb,A result of a namby pamby society that have stripped teachers of their rights to control pupils actions?.
Probably.
At school, we certainly pulled our teachers apart......when they weren't there! We wouldn't dare say anything to their faces, because of the consequences.
I'm surprised that he chose to return to the school, given what he had probably been through. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:10:18 AM | | In light of today's youth i'm surprised it wasnt murder, the children are more aware of their rights than ever and therefore push the boundries not surprisingly some teachers react. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:10:52 AM |
I'm surprised that he chose to return to the school, given what he had probably been through.
I was thinking about that too,wouldnt he have needed to be assessed or something if he was going back to work with kids?..Maybe he was and found not to be a threat.Who knows.
Stress and a load of uncontrolable kids kind of spells trouble. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:12:12 AM | | he shouldnt have been back to work they said the kid would have died if the other kids didnt pull him off he was still taking medication for hes ilness sounds like he just lost it luckily he didnt have any guns at home or there might have been more casualties | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:19:00 AM | Stress and a load of uncontrolable kids kind of spells trouble.
A pupil that gives a teacher a bit of stick hardly deserves to be to be lying in intensive care as a result of being smashed with a metal weight. Kids are unruly and teachers means of dicispline have been greatly reduced, but the actions of this teacher can never be justified. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:21:35 AM |
Kids are unruly and teachers means of dicispline have been greatly reduced, but the actions of this teacher can never be justified.
I agree that it cannot be justified but I am not in the slightest bit suprised that it has happened. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:25:29 AM | | Err sorry "A pupil that gives a teacher a bit of stick" i think you under estimate the issue yes one gobby little chav is no real issue but these animals go in packs even a man of my size and in my profession would think twice about dealing with a pack. The problem as i see it is the teachers have been castrated and have little or no regress to handle difficult children. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:27:26 AM | | I think it was only a matter of time before something like this did happen. A 14 yr old boy is fighting for his life and an experienced teacher faces the possibilty of years in prison.. It's just all so sad for everyone concerned. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:28:02 AM | At last, a teacher finally snaps due to the state and chav parents taking away his power of authority!
bet if they still had the cane, teachers wouldnt be under so much stress. Weak parenting destroys the classroom with the idiotic parents whinging my little baby wouldnt do that and no child will be punished pc brigade. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:34:22 AM | I think his choice of weapon was quite tame and he showed remarkable control under the circumstances teachers are put under these days..........I personally would have opened fire and peppered the little shites with an Uzi 6mm !!
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:38:42 AM | | Thank God you're not a teacher macforty!! but i take your point. It's so sad that this teacher felt so isolated that attempted murder was his only course of action. Where were his superiors when he lashed out?? Probably in a meeting discussing next years league tables. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:41:04 AM | I find it insane that people are defending the teacher, he clumped a 14 year old kid over the head with a large metal weight and nearlly killed him, he is also on drugs for a mental health problem. The geezer shouldn't even be working there, the only reason he's there is no doubt because some stupid PC do gooder put him there under the disabled discrimination act.
If someone does something wrong they should be punished, not molly coddled. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:45:58 AM | | My cousin is a teacher and he has had parents come to confront him many times after he has attempted to discipline their brats and was even threatened with a knife on one occasion. This man must have had extreme provocation on monday and totally lost control. Looking around at some of the teenage boys that i see out there, i am surprised this has not happened before. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:51:05 AM | | OMG here comes the lets pick on the teacher because little jonny couldnt possibly have done anything wrong. No-one is saying the teacher is right for acting the way he has but lets have it right that little thug... yes at 14 quite capable of being thuggish would not be acting alone, no reasonable adult would deliberately set out to harm a child so therefore he was probably provoked and to get that kind of reaction i bet he was provoked quite badly. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:56:13 AM | | this is the result of the do gooders having corporal punishment at schools done away with..when i was young at school if we got unruly in class then we would be caned..it done us no harm realy..just made us behave more during lessons..a friend of mine is a trainee teacher and had her nose bust by a 10 year old boy last year..she said the kids made her life hell and she nearly had a nervous breakdown because of the taunting and names she was called...bring back good old fashion disipline and incidents like this will never happen again.. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 2:57:43 AM | Unreal that some on here are defending what the teacher did... do you really hate children that much ????? We dont know the facts yet..just think about it eh.
Sooo going by what has been said by some on here then the next time im down Thetford in uniform during dinnerbreak and im abused by someone then its fine for me to nip back to the armoury...draw a weapon an drop a few...
I could always blame PTSD.... | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 3:01:22 AM |
Sooo going by what has been said by some on here then the next time im down Thetford in uniform during dinnerbreak and im abused by someone then its fine for me to nip back to the armoury...draw a weapon an drop a few... Cool .........Don't forget the rocket launcher !!
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 3:03:09 AM | | The problem with corporal punishment is it needs to be in place at home and in school and whilst teachers can be monitored.... parents cant and when little jonny turns up at school black and blue the tree huggers cry abuse. Fear can be a good motivator but it really only brings one result and thats compliance, we need a new medium to bridge the gap between todays society and years gone by of tried and tested teaching methods. | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 3:11:31 AM |
bet if they still had the cane, teachers wouldnt be under so much stress.
Have you any idea of what the youth of today are like???
Should a teacher have attempted to strike me with a cane they would have got hit with it right back!! I imagine alot of the children in classrooms today are probably be the same.
OT I think that its an awful shame what has happened, obviously a through enough risk assessment of the teacher wasnt performed prior to his return to work to deem whether he was actually fit enough to return to such an environment; we were all once children - we have an idea of what they can be like! Perhaps he should have also not been left to teach unsupervised, just to ensure that he was able to cope with the stress related to his job.
It appears that he was being taunted and he snapped....I'm not condoning this teachers actions by any means - what he did was wrong. however i do find myself wondering - if it was 2 adults, and not a child that had been involved would my opinion be the same? Would i still be think ing that the gentlman in question had done wrong, or would i be thinking "oh well, he had been being taunted, wound up..... & whilst violence most certainly doesnt solve anything he had been provoked...." | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 3:25:24 AM | Have you any idea of what the youth of today are like???
Should a teacher have attempted to strike me with a cane they would have got hit with it right back!! I imagine alot of the children in classrooms today are probably be the same.
so correct..because the pc do gooders managed to get corporal punishment abolished at schools..this is now what it has all manifested into..no respect or fear of any authority by the kids of today..them do gooders have so much to answer for... | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 3:33:05 AM | The problem with all these politically correct replies is they are based on double standard, the PC crowd have asked for a more courteous hand to be dealt to wrong dooers and that we should offer "support" instead of punishment, the government have done that by increasing awareness of rights to children and reducing teachers disciplinary powers, they've even brought forward legislation to allow everybody the chance to be teachers, even if they are unsuitable. Now they are taking advantage of this world you are being non PC by advocating violence! ohh a non PC do gooder, fancy that! LOL!
This is the world you've created and you have now to abide by it's rules, therefore hitting a 14 year old kid over the head is not only politically incorrect, it's damn right wrong. So please check your PC do-gooder bibles because im sure that hitting children is still outlawed in them, no matter how mentally ill you are.
If you still don't understand read the 4th paragraph of chapter 5 of the PC do gooders handbook - moral rights and wrongs, "Is it ok to beat children to death with large heavy weights" - politically correct answer: Is the teacher from an underprivileged group? no, ok then the asnwer is no it's attempted murder and in this circumstance, we don't have to PC. Let the child beating bastard have it!"
Hope this helps. We hope no murderers were offended in this post. If they have we apologise, just wait another 5 years and I'm sure they'll be a murderers discrimination act you can sue all our asses under! | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 3:38:00 AM | Ahh so according to bbc the parents have got a petition ... Backing the teacher! And police are now interviewing the other pupils.
when i was a kid no one would dare hit a teacher and you know why? Probably get belted back by the teacher, then the cane and belted by parents because of the shame! Now look at the state of the kids growing up! Try being on a bus where there giving the driver crap, knowing nowt will be done!
and theres me sitting there with a stick wishing them to make my day dirty harry style! Would i be scared to swing the stick? Would i feck | |
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| Teacher held on suspicon of attempted murder. Posted: 7/10/2009 3:44:40 AM | Should a teacher have attempted to strike me with a cane they would have got hit with it right back!! I imagine alot of the children in classrooms today are probably be the same. I think kids today generally feel affronted when the teacher merely tells them off or 'disses them' .
Have we not created a situation where the pupil expects 'respect' but not to give it ?????
It makes you wonder what these kids are being taught at home where these very basic moral teachings should be being instilled by their parents !!
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