| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 11:22:14 AM | I did a thread search and found nothing dedicated to this topic.
A few female friends tell me that it is extremely normal for men 50+ to have some difficulties in regard to getting it up or keeping it up. Apparently, this is related to vascular health as men age.
I admit to not having known enough to realize that some men could get it up but not sustain it.
Is there a difference between the two forms of ED? Can (will) any men speak to the issue?
Women, does it matter to you (assuming a guy is willing to satisfy you in other ways)?
By the way, one friend told that "virile" is the word to use if it does matter to you and that guys will know what it means. Any thoughts on that? | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 11:52:57 AM | What do you mean "two forms of ED?"
I've never heard of "virile", but I like it and might just include it in my "interests".
Thanks for the heads up  | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 11:58:00 AM | | Some guys can't get it up at all; other guys can get it up but lose the erection, apparently when trying to commence intercourse. I guess there is at least one other type--when the guy can't ejaculate. But as a woman, I wouldn't consider that latter form a problem (well, not a problem for me, anyway. Sorry to show my selfish side there!!) | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 12:01:11 PM |
Is there a difference between the two forms of ED?
ED?? Two forms of ED??
I don't think I like either ED....
Women, does it matter to you (assuming a guy is willing to satisfy you in other ways)?
Ah yah..it does kinda matter to me.
I prefer the whole meal deal....and make it supersized please! | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 12:09:16 PM |
A few female friends tell me that it is extremely normal for men 50+ to have some difficulties in regard to getting it up or keeping it up
First off I do not consider this at all normal.. In fact only 15 and 25 percent of 65-year-old men experience ED.
However with most men I have helped lose weight it has been a problem for a whole lot of them. Unfortunately sometimes function returns once they lose their belly fat other times unfortunately not.
There are also other causes such as diabetes or the taking of certain drugs such as blood pressure medications that can cause it..Erectile dysfunction is prevalent in both coronary artery disease and diabetes, that it could be considered a risk factor for both. Prevention of further neuropathy seems to occur with tight control of blood sugar and the stopping of drinking and smoking. Unfortunately by time you get to that the damage can be already permanent.
ED is either the difficulty in getting it up or sustaining a good erection. Both of them are considered ED.
I think if I was in love with a man that had it ?I would not feel he had to satisfy me in other ways after all he already would be.
Verile means he has no problems with getting a good erection and sustaining it. I do not think I personally would ask this question but would figure he might well feel the need to volunteer it on his own.
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 1:00:54 PM |
Thanks for the heads up
Wouldn't that be wishful thinking in this case?
I think losing weight is a good idea. Especially if it's in the form of the woman who doesn't do it for ya anymore.
I'll admit, after a couple of hours of sex and three or four ejaculations, I have trouble maintaining an erection. A man's got to know his limitations. | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 1:02:56 PM | Virility to men is the same as infertility in women...meaning people who have these condidtions are unable or do not reproduce. There are several causes in each gender.
Men who suffer from the inability to have or maintain an erection, whether continually or occassionally, are diagnosed with erectile dysfunction. Some of the causes are anxierty to perform, stress, hypertension and condictions that affect the blood supply to the area. Erectile dysfunction can happen occassionally or continuously, depending on the type and severity of the causes. Depending on the cause erectile dysfunction can occur occassionally or continually. There are a number of treatments for this depending on the causes (although not all men respond to the treatment in the same way), including penile implants and medications. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2009 1:15:54 PM | Verile able to produce sperm.. Inability to produce sperm is a man that is infertile. Usually the cause is either of two categories based upon a physical examination. First thing is to make sure he has a vas. The vas is the tube that urologists do a vasectomy on. It is the tube the brings the sperm to the outside world. The other problem is that they are just not making enough sperm, a check of size of testicles would prove very beneficial.
If am man is unable to to have an orgasm or a delayed one usually psychological factors are involved .
Hope this helps
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 1:18:34 PM |
I'll admit, after a couple of hours of sex and three or four ejaculations, I have trouble maintaining an erection. A man's got to know his limitations.
This is quite normal for most men that are healthy so count your blessings..
thecatsmeoww | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 1:56:25 PM |
I'll admit, after a couple of hours of sex and three or four ejaculations
Is that why your name is Petrified Wood? heehee.
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Posted: 8/5/2009 2:07:19 PM | Perhaps the OP was referring to two common physiological reasons for erectile dysfunction: PDE-5 production leading to a failure to attain an erection and venous leak, in which the various corpus cavernosum (penis and urethra) either partially or fully fill with blood and then loose (leak) the stored blood. Either process leads to ED and may or may not be treatable.
There can also be psychological causes of ED. And then there is the issue of obesity related ED. In many, not all, men losing that spare tire and increasing activity (as simple as getting out and walking ) can make a big difference. Last repost I read said something like a 10% weight loss had 1/3 of the men involved in a clinical trial reporting success in the ED arena.
Obesity leads to ED through the production (excessive) of an enzyme called aromatase. Aromatase facilitates the conversion of testosterone to estrogen (estrodial?) which then helps to pack on more pounds, but insidiously lack of testosterone also can alter a man's sexual response, as well as other stuff like muscle loss.
The use of PDE-5 inhibitors (Viagara, etc) work by preventing PDE-5 from breaking down NO which is involved in creating the erection.
Since there are many causes to ER it is very important to consult with a Urologist to determine your particular cause and possible treatments.
However, it is not going to hurt you to lose weight and start exercising to see if that is you problem.
TK
{this is one situation where thinking FOR the little brain is advisable} | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 2:08:41 PM | Hey Petrrified! Can we change ur name to "Woody"
..0000OOOOO ( as in Woodpecker????)
Bwaaaaa | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 2:18:53 PM | Well, my dad's name was Ed, my middle name is Ed, I don't think it had anything to do with "it" aren't there pills for keeping "it "  ??? | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 2:25:29 PM |
Perhaps the OP was referring to two common physiological reasons for erectile dysfunction: PDE-5 production leading to a failure to attain an erection and venous leak, in which the various corpus cavernosum (penis and urethra) either partially or fully fill with blood and then loose (leak) the stored blood. Either process leads to ED and may or may not be treatable.
Are you talking about a reversed flow (retrograde ejactulation), usually caused by prostrate cancer? Sometimes during the course of surgery some of the sphincter muscle can be damaged resulting in this reversed flow. Also in diabetes patients they may well suffer from it as well, or sometimes the unfortunate results of a stomach surgery.
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 2:36:00 PM |
I don't think it had anything to do with "it" aren't there pills for keeping "it
Unfortunately a lot of these pills are not advisable for some people and they should discuss this with their doctor first!! You could always try a rather holistic approach ..
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Posted: 8/5/2009 2:36:05 PM | My nickname is Chip. Does that help?
I tried Viagra once. I couldn't drive - and not just because my vision became blurry (short arms) - which, BTW, is a great benefit when you're in a bar. The blurry vision is better than beer goggles, so you're not too picky when someone pulls you home by your erection like a pull-toy. | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 3:20:20 PM | MzMeoww ~~ my stats differ a bit from yours. . . .
The study estimated that 18.4 percent of U.S. men age 20 and older -- about 18 million -- have the condition. Among those ages 20-39, 5.1 percent had it; ages 40-59, 14.8 percent; ages 60-69, 43.8 percent; and age 70 and older 70.2 percent.
Half of the men in the study who had diabetes also had erectile dysfunction. Nearly 90 percent of men with erectile dysfunction had risk factors for cardiovascular disease, including diabetes, high blood pressure, poor cholesterol levels or smoking, the study found.
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN3149349120070201
That's pretty much been my personal experience, too, from my fifties: Prozac, prostate cancer, chemo/radiation from colo-rectal cancer, diabetes. That's leaving out BP meds which are hell on the mechanics.
That said, regardless of the mechanics, if the libido is intact, a sex life will happen, lol! And it can be astonishingly good, depending on the peeps. I'll repeat what I've said so often here previously: poking and getting poked is a far cry from being the totality of what sex is all about.
Not going to practice medicine here, but I'd recommend that anyone interested in the issue google L-Arginine, and Alpha Lipoic Acid. Cheap, easy, OTC.
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 3:31:16 PM |
I'll admit, after a couple of hours of sex and three or four ejaculations, I have trouble maintaining an erection
Yeah, pics or it didn't happen....... | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 3:35:53 PM | So woobytoodsday and catsmeoww you seem to know an awful lot about this condition.
Call me shallow but....please don't tell me that I not only have to try and find a great guy that is handsome, loyal, honest, and fun.....I also have to find one my age that can still get it up!!
hmmmm...better go update my profile now....
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 3:40:58 PM | Both these definitions of virile are incorrect.
Virility to men is the same as infertility in women...meaning people who have these condidtions are unable or do not reproduce. There are several causes in each gender. Sterility is the term you are looking for. When a man cannot produce sperm, he is sterile, not virile.
Verile able to produce sperm.
This is the definition of virile (and it has nothing to do with being able to produce sperm)
1 : having the nature, properties, or qualities of an adult male; specifically : capable of functioning as a male in copulation (sexual intercourse)
2 : energetic, vigorous
3 a : characteristic of or associated with men : masculine b : having traditionally masculine traits especially to a marked degree
4 : masterful, forceful | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 4:38:31 PM | There are several causes for ED and ED-like symptoms.
1. Physiological causes – with the advancing age, the ability to get it up, keeping it up, and intensity of copulation get diminished.
2. When fully dressed (condomwise), the sensitivity and arousal are substantially reduced. It will get better in exclusive situation when you can dispose of all distractions.
3. For me – the biggest impediment is that it is harder and harder to find an attractive partner (most probably true for both genders).. The arousal level of many men (similarly to women) depends strongly on how attractive the partner is. Unfortunately, many women over 50 don’t look as exciting as they used to in their twenties or thirties. The effects of suntan, make-ups, and alcohol take a toll. Tattoos don't make them any more attrative. But the worst are the extra pounds. I personally, can’t get aroused by a heavy set or rubenesque woman. And that doesn’t include only the actual erection, but also any fondling, cuddling, oral, or other forms of sex. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2009 5:07:01 PM | I really identify with those of us past 50 who are still trim and fit and want to date. The matter of attractiveness in the opposite sex is an issue. At my age (59) I'm still VERY fit and cut. I have zero interest in going out with women my own age. To me, they just seem matronly. Many are overweight which does nothing for me either. As my cardio vascular health is excellent, I've no ED issues, however should any develop, I will do the "Blue Steel" thing; no question. "Better living through chemistry", that's my motto.
My dad had ED issues when he moved into his mid 60's. It truly depressed him no end. He became a changed man after what had been a dependable part of his life left him. We spoke of it often. This was before the "Blue Steel" era and if it had been around, I'd have strongly encouraged him to use it, seeing as mom wasn't that thrilled about the situation either. | |
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| ED in some form or another
Posted: 8/5/2009 5:17:24 PM |
I have zero interest in going out with women my own age. To me, they just seem matronly.
So you are the only one that is fit and cut at your age??? Please spare me that all woman past the age of 50 are matronly.. If I said the same thing about men past the age of 50 it certainly would not be anything resembling the truth.
If you wish to date younger woman just do it.. you need not make excuses for your decision based on untruths.
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