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 jack-d-ripper

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 10:54:00 AM
80 years is not long in Geologic time scale...........

with in a thousand years I will own a car that will get 50 mpg..........

I cannot wait.






U.S. vehicle fuel efficiency has increased only 3 mpg in 80 years

By Michael Mulcahy

Gizmag is always on the lookout for alternative means of powering vehicles and saving precious fossil fuels. But, in truth, the vast majority of us still drive exclusively petrol-powered cars. And the even sadder truth, outlined in a new research from the University of Michigan, is that the average fuel efficiency of a US vehicle has improved only three miles per gallon since the days of the Ford Model T.

Michael Sivak and Omer Tsimhonia, of the University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute, calculated the distance driven and fuel consumed for the entire US fleet of vehicles – incorporating cars, motorcycles, trucks and buses – between 1923 and 2006. Using those numbers, they were then able to analyze fuel efficiency on US roads at any time, and make telling comparisons between eras.

According to Ford, the Model T – which began mass-production in 1913 – averaged a fairly healthy 25 miles to the gallon. Nonetheless, by 1923, the year the study begins, the average fuel efficiency of the entire US fleet was 14 mpg. That figure remained about the same for more than a decade.

From 1935, however, fuel efficiency fell into steady decline, dropping to an alarming 11.9 mpg in 1973. When you think about the kind of vehicles released through that time – and the number of extras that steadily became standard – it’s almost not surprising. All those fins and chrome and power-assisted systems came with heavy penalties in efficiency. The Environmental Defense Fund, for example, estimates that air-conditioning alone decreases the fuel efficiency of a car by as much as 12%.

But, with the fuel crisis of the 70’s, fleet efficiency was compelled to improve, and in a hurry. From 1974 the economy of the US fleet improved five miles a gallon to 16.9 mpg in 1991. Curiously, since then – despite growing environmental awareness and publicly-voiced concern – improvement has been painfully slow, reaching just 17.2 mpg in 2006.

The underlying problem in recent years, of course, isn’t with new cars, some of which can achieve close to 40 mpg. It’s all those old vehicles out there, chewing up gas like there’s no tomorrow. As far as Sivak and Tsimhoni are concerned, it’s much more important to improve fuel efficiency at this end – from 15 to 16 mpg, say – than trying to get a Prius from 40 to 41 mpg.

By their estimates, for the US to reduce its total annual fuel consumption by 10%, fuel efficiency across the entire fleet of cars, motorbikes, truck and buses would have to rise nearly two percent. That may not sound like much, but it took 15 years for a 0.3% change. And when you’re talking about 10,000 pounds of carbon dioxide from the average medium-sized sedan, making a change has never seemed more critical.

http://www.gizmag.com/us-vehicle-fuel-efficiency-improves-3mpg-80-years/12410/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=6a36081083-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email

 AppleGeek

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 12:36:58 PM

with in a thousand years I will own a car that will get 50 mpg.


You can buy one RIGHT NOW than gets an infinite number of miles per gallon.
http://www.teslamotors.com/
 Got Trance

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 1:46:23 PM
Just get a 3 cyl. Geo Metro with a 5 speed.
Well over 45mpg.
I have two of them.

Skip
 78outdoorsguy

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 2:14:14 PM
The original "First generation" Honda Insight which came out in 2000 gets anywhere from 50 to high 60's miles per gallon.
 serendipiteee

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 2:30:27 PM
Hmmm, ya think the auto manufacturers are in bed with the oil companies?
I'd be interested to hear any other explanations.
 Wingsonmyfeet

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 2:50:10 PM
The air car designed in france and being built and sold in india, has a combo engine, 900mpg, you fill the air tank with a compressor in your garage. so far they won't let it into the US, i wonder who doesn't like it ?
 jack-d-ripper

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 2:58:41 PM
^^^^


I could go across the country with one of those Bike tire pumps.....
and a case of energy bars and Red Bull.....................


I remember hearing an ad for a 1949 ford .....20 mpg
 serendipiteee

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 3:23:10 PM
Has there ever been a more ignorant civilization in the history of the world?
I think not!

We are too stupid to know how stupid we are! OMG!
 virtualdemo

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 8:33:37 PM
That article is written to what the writer wanted out of his/her own opinion. Fuel efficiency fell because no one worried about it. An AMC Gremlin was getting 27mpg in the seventies. Electric cars/trucks have been around since the invention of the automobile, just no interest in them until recently. I could go on and on about what innovations have been around for a long time, but it is the people buying these things that makes the difference.

"making a change has never seemed more critical", the last line in the article... We the consumer make the change, not the automobile companies, not the oil companies, and not our government.
 helpimstuck

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 9:09:34 PM
ya nice my uncles 1960 pontiac car that is 25 feet long probally weight over 3 tons get better mpg then every new car of that size
 WantaSmart1

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/8/2009 10:22:58 PM
And then there's these things that get 40-60 mpg that most of the rest of the world is okay with driving:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=kei+cars&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10

A few southeastern states are finally coming to their senses and allowing them to be licensed for on-road use. No -I take that back - they TRIED to get them okayed...but the Federal DOT said "NO!"

No American car comes even close to the performanace matched with fuel efficiency. Several bills have been introduced in a number of states - 7-8 to date - that would allow these cars to be used on the road under restrictions similar to those covering Neighborhood Electrical Vehicles (NEVs) and other Low-Speed Vehicles (LSVs) in order to take advantage of their utility, payloads, existing and proven technologies, as well as 40-60 mile per gallon fuel efficiency. To date, still no definitive law allowing their use. The excuse given is that they don't have airbags, or wouldn't pass other safety regs - motorcycles have no airbags, nor can they pass Federal crash test dummy tests...

Although the Federal DOT apparently has no problem with allowing thin fiberglass and plexiglas vehicles with minimal crash protection onto surface roads, for some reason it has a major problem with allowing the importation of Kei-class cars, despite their proven SIXTY-YEAR history around the world.

Sometimes more advanced is really the backward path. Like allowing politicians and big business to dictate things that restrict their flow of cash.
 Jim978

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/9/2009 5:54:29 AM

with in a thousand years I will own a car that will get 50 mpg..........

I cannot wait.


If MPG is your only concern there are plenty of options out there for you. Most of us actually want to be able to DO something wih the vehicle we buy.

The piece you posted is a carry over from a 2003 Sierra Club ad and a 2007 piece from the New Yorker magazine. I notice there is no mention that the Model T spewed 5 or 6 times the toxic fumes that current moels produce even though it's engine was 7 to 10 time smaller than current engines.
 FL CO

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/9/2009 6:46:29 AM

Just get a 3 cyl. Geo Metro with a 5 speed.
Well over 45mpg.
I have two of them


I have a mini-buggy that will accelerate faster than a Metro.I need something that can at least get out of its own way
 Earthpuppy

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/9/2009 7:44:03 AM
The Congress mandated a giant leap backward in auto mileage when they forced ethanol tainted fuels on the market. Even 10% ethanol contamination noticably reduces mpg. E-85 is far worse.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/byfueltype.htm
 jack-d-ripper

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/9/2009 8:01:03 AM


e-85 is a typical half a$$ standard. The mileage loss is the result.
Thats what happens when the oil company lobby writes the law...


360cc imports delayed tthe import of Suzuki, Subaru, and almost kill Honda...........

The first imports were all in the sub-mini class.... Brinklin and Delorean made a bunch of money selling boat loads of them
 ANewLife14

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/9/2009 9:19:02 AM
My uncle has dozens of 1980's hockey magazines and there are ads for cars that get 30 to 60mpg (carburetor based). It's interesting to read about.
 Wingsonmyfeet

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/9/2009 9:42:37 AM
The oil companies lobbied the government to ban high mialage and non gasoline autos based on safety regulations, front, rear, side impact crash tests, but show me one motorcycle on the market that meets any of the requirements they use to keep fuel efficient cars off the market, it's a racket so stick it to you, simple as 2nd grade
 jack-d-ripper

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/9/2009 10:56:54 AM
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But with motorcycles you are safer.............and..............

you won't go blind staring through all that glass..
 Wingsonmyfeet

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Hi Tech...U.S. fuel efficiency increased 3 mpg in 80 years
Posted: 8/9/2009 10:59:30 AM
Oh suuuure, no windshield sounds great right up to the time you're doing 70 and hit a grasshopper the size of a chicken
 Earthpuppy

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Posted: 8/10/2009 12:26:45 AM
Few motorcycles in the US are driven for their fuel efficiency these days. Most of what I see are posers, pretending they are outlaws, and non-conformists, wearing the mandatory Harley gear, burning up gas in their time off to be seen by one another. As Ani DeFranco noted in a song.."All my friends were non-conformists, so I became one too."
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