| | What laptop do YOU recommend?Page 1 of 2 (1, 2) | | I'm looking for a mid-end laptop that I'm going to use mostly for internet, web design/development, media & SOME gaming. It doesn't have to be a total powerhouse, but it does need to be adequately quick for those tasks. It doesn't have to be the latest games, but something like Guild Wars or Dynasty Warriors 4. I don't know or keep track of processor types so I don't know which one is good for what I need. I'm willing to spend $500-600 on one. Tell me your brand & model. Thanks! | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 3:59:43 AM | Right now the raising star in the laptop world would be, in my opinion ACER. Justs looking around newegg quickly, I think I like this laptop best for what you. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115571 - 599.99$ + Free shipping. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 6:29:42 AM | | Might be raising, but they might not have been raised up just yet. I'm still skeptical of them. And I have bad anecdotes to back it up. HP is a good line. With the exception of gaming, any laptop on the market should be good enough for you in terms of specs. But I don't PC game, so I can't help you there. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 6:51:50 AM |
And I have bad anecdotes to back it up.
I've got two Acer laptops sitting in my workshop totally dead. One suffered catastrophic motherboard/chipset meltdown due to manfacturing defects. The other won't power on anymore and I haven't got the schematics to find where I need to probe to make it turn on.
While new board have better build quality...every Acer laptop I've seen feels flimsy and after disassenbling a couple, the internal build construction isn't impressive. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 7:14:08 AM | This will be prob the best you are going to do for 600 dollars to suite all of your needs.
Acer Aspire AS6920-6898 NoteBook Intel Core 2 Duo T5900(2.20GHz), 16" Wide XGA, 4GB Memory DDR2 667, 320GB HDD 5400rpm, DVD Super Multi, NVIDIA GeForce 9500M GS
$599 plus free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115571 | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 11:52:25 AM | If you can wait a couple of months, Windows 7 will be coming out, and it's supposedly a whole hell of a lot better than that hopeless train wreck called Vista.
If you can't wait, then go to Dell Small Business online (just register your name as a business, it's simply a formality) and buy one of their Vostro laptops (14-16" screens) with the Windows XP "downgrade" which will add an extra $100 to the price but you should still be in the $600 ballpark and it will run crazy fast with a dual core processor and 2-3 gigs of memory.
Keep checking dealnews.com or techbargains.com for the best deals, usually right around the middle of the month when retailers are trying to meet their monthly quotas especially. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 12:08:58 PM | If you can wait a couple of months, Windows 7 will be coming out, and it's supposedly a whole hell of a lot better than that hopeless train wreck called Vista.
You don't have to wait a couple of months for a laptop to get windows 7, you can go buy a laptop now and get the free windows 7 upgrade. Which if you think about is a good deal because you get 2 OSes for the price of one. You have Vista that comes with the laptop and you will have a free Windows 7 sent out to you when it comes out. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 1:56:56 PM | | If not ACER then Toshiba. Every HP laptop, or desktop I've owned has lasted about a year before it slows down dismally, or BSODs despite constant maintenance and warranty returns/replacements. Course everyone has had their different experiences with different brands, I can only go off my own personal affairs with the computer industry. Good luck with whatever you choose! | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 2:04:12 PM |
Dell and Asus make great PCs. IMO Acers are not so great (but sure are cheap) and I had one for a day (returned it to the store) HP's are okay but come loaded w/crapware & the customer service sucks Toshiba's are alright & would be in my top 5 manufacturers list
http://www.dell.com/home/laptops#subcats=inspnnb,laptop_studio&navla=&a=51800~0~3611728,55474~0~866168,58106~0~911380,51795~0~812537&page=1
Inspiron 15 Intel® Pentium® Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache) Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Service Pack 1 64 Bit 500GB10 SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) 4GB11 Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 800MHz
Subtotal: $719
*The one above you can add/remove features/components to make it fit your budget...BUT, the best advice I can give to someone buying a laptop is to get it the way you want it b/c upgrades can be difficult & expensive (with the exception of HDD & RAM)
32bit PC are currently more compatible w/software but limit you when you want to add more than 4gb ram
...the one above gives you the Windows 7 Upgrade option
The Dell Outlet is also another good place to check: Dell Outlet Store www.Dell.com/Outlet http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/notebooks/inspnnb/ct.aspx?refid=inspnnb&s=dfh&cs=22 | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 4:37:00 PM | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell#Manufacturing
Assembly of desktop computers for the North American market takes place at Dell plants in Austin, Texas (original location), Lebanon TN and Nashville, Tennessee (opened in 1999), Winston-Salem NC (opened in 2005) and at the Miami, Florida facility of its Alienware subsidiary. Dell servers come from Austin TX. Dell has also moved at least some of its desktop assembly into Mexico near the El Paso, Texas border for computers that are sold in the United States. | |
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Edsta
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 4:58:23 PM |
You don't have to wait a couple of months for a laptop to get windows 7, you can go buy a laptop now and get the free windows 7 upgrade.
Have they started doing that already? I hadn't heard of any computer makers offering that yet. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 5:45:22 PM | Yeah, they started doing that on july 26th and it goes through jan 31 2010.
HP Windows® 7 Upgrade Option Program
http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/win7web/ie/en/
Dell™ Windows 7 Option Upgrade Website
https://win7.dell.com/
Acer Windows® 7 Upgrade Offer
http://www.acer.com/windows7upgrade/index.html
Lenovo FREE Windows® 7 Upgrade Program
http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/windows7/ | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/13/2009 11:16:46 PM | | ^ Wow! That's great. I wonder if that will boost sales any, given the still-struggling economy. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/15/2009 5:42:25 AM | Dells manufactured in the USA? That's a laugh! Every Dell box I've opened within the past two years at work has "Made in China" printed on the box and the unit serial number begins with CN. Most likely what they do is put the labels on in the USA before they ship them out or plug the hard drive in or something else trivial.
We installed some NEC microwave radios within the past year that are marked "Made in Japan". That was refreshing.
My favorite laptops have been the IBM Thinkpads, but since Lenovo took sole possession of the line a few years ago, I think they've fallen way off from their IBM quality. They have a much more flimsy feel reminiscent of Dell and other also-rans out there. But then I guess everything is made for the expected 18 to 24 month lifespan and no longer. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/15/2009 6:37:54 PM | | I bought a Dell Vostro (15") and it's been great. I also got the hi capacity battery. It's solidly built and comes with XP Pro. Works like a charm. I'd never buy Acer, HP, Gateway or any of that junk. My choices were between Dell, IBM (Lenovo) and Toshiba. All three good machines but only the Dell came with XP and the prices were comparable. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/15/2009 6:53:36 PM | | I would really recommended staying away from HP laptops. If you get one from HP that doesn't work properly, you'll get a hell of a lot of run around bout just getting it repaired. If you try to go after the refund policy like I did, you get even worse runaround. If your wondering the refund policy is only valid after 30 days when they breach the terms of the warranty, which they did four times in the 3 year warranty period but it was just twice when I went to go after it (around 8 months in), I even have a recording on the phone with two of their techs that agree the warranty was breached by them. When I tried to get the help of a business authority to go after them, they were telling me they first need a couple thousand cases to convince their higher ups to take the case, at the time when I talked with them they had roughly 1500 cases revolving around the same experience I had with them. The authority did however help me get them to fill the part of the warranty about getting a new model when enough problems arise to prove the model I bought was defective, however now I have a slightly better model that has the exact same problem. Can't use Windows on it because the chipset on the board that handles storage transactions causes serious corruption, have to use Linux for the active file repair which slows it down big time. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/15/2009 7:02:27 PM |
Dells manufactured in the USA? That's a laugh! Every Dell box I've opened within the past two years at work has "Made in China" printed on the box and the unit serial number begins with CN. Most likely what they do is put the labels on in the USA before they ship them out or plug the hard drive in or something else trivial.
Well... The stickers on my Dell server and the box it came in, made in USA (Texas) but my Dell netbooks were made in China. Don't have the stickers on my laptop & desktop b/c they were replaced after I damaged them (don't feel like opening them up now to check) So maybe the Dell home PCs are made in China and the business PCs/Servers are manufactured here in the US?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell#Manufacturing
Manufacturing
In the 1980s Dell became a pioneer in the “configure to order” approach to manufacturing – delivering individual PCs configured to customer specifications. In contrast, most PC manufacturers in those times delivered large orders to intermediaries on a quarterly basis.[50]
To minimize the delay between purchase and delivery, Dell has a general policy of manufacturing its products close to its customers. This also allows for implementing a just-in-time (JIT) manufacturing approach, which minimizes inventory costs. Low inventory is another signature of the Dell business model – a critical consideration in an industry where components depreciate very rapidly.[51]
Dell’s manufacturing process covers assembly, software installation, functional testing (including "burn-in"), and quality control. Throughout most of the company’s history, Dell manufactured desktop machines in-house and contracted out manufacturing of base notebooks for configuration in-house.[52] However, the company's approach appears to have started to change. The 2006 Annual Report states “we are continuing to expand our use of original design manufacturing partnerships and manufacturing outsourcing relationships.” The Wall Street Journal reported in September, 2008 that “Dell has approached contract computer manufacturers with offers to sell" their plants.[53]
Assembly of desktop computers for the North American market takes place at Dell plants in Austin, Texas (original location), Lebanon TN and Nashville, Tennessee (opened in 1999), Winston-Salem NC (opened in 2005) and at the Miami, Florida facility of its Alienware subsidiary. Dell servers come from Austin TX. Dell has also moved at least some of its desktop assembly into Mexico near the El Paso, Texas border for computers that are sold in the United States.
Dell assembles computers for the EMEA market at Limerick in the Republic of Ireland, and employs about 4,500 people in that country. Production at the Limerick facility will cease in 2009 and will relocate to facilities in Poland and Asia. European Manufacturing Facility 1 (EMF1, opened in 1990) and EMF3 form part of the Raheen Industrial Estate near Limerick. EMF2 (previously a Wang facility, later occupied by Flextronics, situated in Castletroy) closed in 2002,[citation needed] and Dell Inc has consolidated production into EMF3 (EMF1 now contains only offices[54]). Dell’s Alienware subsidiary also manufactures PCs in an Athlone, Ireland plant. Construction of EMF4 in Lódz, Poland has started[update]: Dell started production there in autumn 2007.[55]
Dell opened plants in Penang, Malaysia in 1995, and in Xiamen, China in 1999. These facilities serve the Asian market and assemble 95% of Dell notebooks. Dell Inc has invested an estimated (U.S.) $60 million in a new manufacturing unit in Chennai, India, to support the sales of its products in the Indian subcontinent. Indian-made products will bear the "Made in India" mark. In 2007 the Chennai facility had the target of producing 400,000 desktop PCs, and plans envisaged it starting to produce notebook PCs and other products in the second half of 2007.[citation needed]
Dell moved desktop and PowerEdge server manufacturing for the South American market from the Eldorado do Sul plant opened in 1999, to a new plant in Hortolandia, Brazil in 2007.[56]
Dell began manufacturing in Limerick in 1991 and went on to become Ireland's largest exporter of goods and its second-largest company and foreign investor. On January 8, 2009, Dell announced that it would move all Dell manufacturing in Limerick to Dell's new plant in the Polish city of Lódz by January 2010.[57] European Union officials said they would investigate a €52.7million aid package the Polish government used to attract Dell away from Ireland.[58]
Dell's plants
* Austin, Texas, USA * Winston-Salem, North Carolina, USA * Penang, Malaysia since 1995 * Xiamen, China since 1999 * Chennai, India since 2007, 400,000 PCs p.a. [59] * Brazil * Poland * Mexico * Ireland
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/15/2009 8:09:25 PM | I'd avoid Acer\Gateway at all cost. These name brand pc's have really gone downhill in quality and reliability. Acer\Gateway were named the worst out of any large name brand computer company in quality and reliability according to Consumer Reports last year. HP\Compaq came in 3rd place followed by Dell that came in second place. Lenovo was rated the best in quality and reliability out of any large name brand pc company.
But if you are looking for a true gaming name brand pc then Falcon Northwest is by far the best out of any name brand pc company on the market. They aren't a very big namebrand pc company, they are sort of low key, but they put in high quality parts into everything they build. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/15/2009 10:58:50 PM | | Thanks, everyone. I've been hunting some models in Best Buy & I'm thinking of going with either a Dell Inspiron, the Toshiba Satellite or the Gateway NV5214. The Gateway has a AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core, 4 gb of ram for only $500! It's been sold out for a while but they've received a new shipment yesterday. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/15/2009 11:20:28 PM | | One thing you have to remember is when you buy a laptop to are stuck with whatever graphics gpu it has in it. So if you aren't planning to play real graphical games on it later on then go with the 500 dollar one. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/16/2009 2:16:45 AM | RAM is cheap, don't be swayed by the one w/more RAM just because it has more RAM...The CPU is probably the biggest deciding factor (for me personally), RAM and HDDs can be added/upgraded easily & inexpensively
And another nice thing about the Inspiron (not sure about the others) but on my Inspiron, I can easily swap out hard drives from the side of the computer.
Multiple HDDs=Multiple Operating Systems (for me anyway) >Kinda nice to have Windows on one HDD and be able to use an extra hard drive for Linux/BSD or whatever you prefer.
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/16/2009 7:36:38 PM | | If you have refurbished shops near you that may be a good way to get a decent laptop in the price range you are looking. Given that netbooks are priced around $300, $500-600 is not likely to get you a mid-range laptop, IMO. I'd likely suggest making sure of a decent CPU, e.g. Core 2 duo for Intel or Turion x2 from AMD, and a decent GPU as that isn't likely to be upgradeable on a laptop. | |
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| What laptop do YOU recommend? Posted: 8/17/2009 7:01:36 AM | should i return my new gateway nv series laptop that i bought a week ago thru Home shopping network on cable? i am not computer literate but notices when i use my wireless mouse that i purchased separately my router red light (internet) flashes and then i cannot get back on the internet. this morning i have been on the net for almost 45 minutes without using this wireless mouse without the internet cutting off or belkin red light flashing.
the people at bestbuy told me to get a HP but the gateways are cuter and i have a 2 year warranty, alot of software. but, there is no manual (i do not want to have to look everything up online). i have not done by back up yet, there's no recovery disc with this computer.
my pc is needed strictly for college tests, essays, internet .....no gaming . but, i do want to watch tv/download from netflix.
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