| | Why we do the people we do!Page 1 of 6 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) | I'm not a huge Oprah watcher but today's show has captured my attention in discussing with statistical analysis and scientific specialists the studies of who we buff and polish and why based on science.
Quite possibly explains that "certain something" that someone has, the reasons why we love that "bad boy" so deeply, or hunt down the chick with the shortest skirt or the biggest boobs....
All about the hunter who's the best with the biggest meat.
Unexpected factors—like smell, facial symmetry, voice pitch, financial stability and kissing prowess—just might have more to do with your choice of mate than anyone ever expected. Discover the evolutionary explanations.
courtesy of Oprah.com
But now? Today? Women are doing our own hunting and bringing home our own meat, and cooking it too!
If we believe what's presented this takes most of our individualized selection in mating out of our hands and deep into our bodies and psyche. So - do we really have any ability to control who we want and don't want?
If you buy into the Science of who you Sex Up - what are your pulse points? Is it smell? Vocal pitch? Financial Stability or Kissing Prowess that makes you hot or cold?
Tell all - if you dare!
Update: 66% of al women say that they WILL dump a guy after one bad kiss. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:04:58 PM | | I absolutely have control over what I want....for example, if I'm at a bar I might see many textbook beautiful women, but I don't nessessarily want them. What is my type? I know it when I see it, then we see if everything falls into place or if showstoppers happen. I can actually tell if I will get along with a lady by her face, somehow I'm just really good at reading people. I actually make bets with my friends who want to go after a girl, I can tell them if their percentage of getting along with her (not just getting laid) is good or bad.....were as they are just attracted to looks, for myself I look deeper before even wasting my time, call me picky, but thats how I roll..... | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:09:45 PM | No Rick but she had Hillary on and that's always SO appealling!
I'm not sure why this is deemed a "chat" topic since it deals with the science of choosing who we have relationships with....but okay - let's all talk about old topics from 2004 instead....
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:10:22 PM |
But now? Today? Women are doing our own hunting and bringing home our own meat, and cooking it too!
Am I the only one who is reminded of an Enjoli commercial?
*sings* And never ever let you forget you're a man 'cause I'm a WOMAN!  | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:15:15 PM | True and generally I don't buy into this whole "women's lib has ruined our society!" notion....
But they were statistically supporting their findings with real analytical annecdotes which made me listen.
They'd recorded a woman speaking, and played it for men, then the men had to rank how sexual she made them feel by her vocal tone.
They recorded the same woman again during ovulation and asked the same men to respond again based on how sexual her voice made them feel and during her ovulation she scored higher on every single man's score card.
I barely even know when I'm ovulating but a guy is picking it up and being sexually turned on or off by it?
In my mind this implies that there are far more factors to our choices that we aren't even aware of, let alone able to control consciencetiously....
But I can admit I've definitely dropped a guy in a hot flash for one bad kiss. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:19:23 PM |
Update: 66% of al women say that they WILL dump a guy after one bad kiss.
As far as kissing goes...they can be trained...lol ...not a deal breaker for me...!
As far as controlling who we want and don't want...I believe that depends on each person individually... some will go all in based on their emotions others may use reason....and still others may use a combination of both... Don't think love can ever be reduced to a science!!
If it were my pulse points would be....all of the above and all at one time...!!!! lol.. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:23:35 PM |
In my mind this implies that there are far more factors to our choices that we aren't even aware of, let alone able to control consciencetiously....
I think you are spot on. A lot of these things get labeled as preferences. Hair color is an example. Women with black hair drive me crazy. There is no logically reason for it as it is just a color. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:28:27 PM | And to this, I would tell Oprah, "Welcome to 2007."
Mystery (the pickup artist guy) wrote a book addressing all of this a couple of years ago.
I guess this is all still news to mainstream America, but it's been common knowledge in the pickup community for quite some time. Hence its ongoing success. It works around science and nature. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:37:44 PM |
I barely even know when I'm ovulating but a guy is picking it up and being sexually turned on or off by it?
It's nature taking it's course....like animals, we put off a scent that attracts the male...I know I'm increasingly more sexual at that time....as far as the woman being recorded, her voice obviously turned more sexual during that time which the men could sense...! | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:40:21 PM | So...Oprah watched that Discovery/Learning Channel program "The Science of Sex Appeal..." Good for her.
So - do we really have any ability to control who we want and don't want?
What do you think? If so then doesn't that mean gay people really are making a choice? That all this biologically gay crap is nonsense? Because in a predominantly heterosexual society, and societies where sticking out is severely punished...wouldn't they simply "choose" to be gay?
I get to choose between options, I get to choose how I go about finding those options, but I don't get to choose what made them options in the first place.
Unless you just want to devolve into another nature vs. nurture debate.
what are your pulse points? Is it smell? Vocal pitch? Financial Stability or Kissing Prowess that makes you hot or cold?
Uhhhh...my five senses? Those are my main pulse points. After that it's social position, or group, in relation to my own.
Physical compatibility, then social compatibility for me. I know some switch those two, and I know some hold them equal. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:45:54 PM |
If we believe what's presented this takes most of our individualized selection in mating out of our hands and deep into our bodies and psyche.
You mean you didn't know?
(grasps chest in mock horror...)
It works around science and nature.
This may explain some of my long ago ex-boyfriends...that way I can avoid total accountability...I mean if it is steeped in my subconscious, can I really be held accountable? Doesn't accountability only apply to conscious thought?  | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 3:54:18 PM | Shock, horror!
Lol! This makes sense to me. I have never had any control over who I wanted. It just kind of hits me (hard) for no discernable reason.
My bf's have been as differrent from each other as they can be, except for all being good people at heart, and Oprah's little report here goes a long way to explaining why they've had nothing else in common, and why I'm never able to say what exactly it is that has attracted me to them. who knew? Oprah has a use. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:01:54 PM | We do the people we do because the ones we do will let us do it to them !
An on top of all the symmetry,power and bringing meat to the fertile hips- there's pheromones. You are attracted to someone with a certain scent that tells you down deep that they have a complimentary not similar immune system.
Also mankinds greatest social invention- booze- has much bearing on mating. It has launched more relationships than Oscar Meyer has weiners. Get those inhibitions down and get it on baby! | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:07:19 PM |
That all this biologically gay crap is nonsense? Because in a predominantly heterosexual society, and societies where sticking out is severely punished...wouldn't they simply "choose" to be gay?
I think quite possibly that's another topic, and it's a question I don't know the answer to, as I didn't watch the "Science of Sex Appeal" show, but I'm trying to find it now on my satellite guide because I thought it was interesting.
And yes, I'm aware that the notion of concept is from 2007 or some time ago, although I'm sure we can all bow and acknowledge that you, poster have a vastly superior amount of knowledge than myself or Oprah if you wish us to.
If you're asking if I think the biologically gay stuff is nonsense my answer is "yes" I do.
On topic - I'm not aware of subconciously making certain choices about men, although I do know that I am very choosy, and that there are a number of factors, and that I'm not always turned on by the men that I should be.
Often I'm turned on by the men I SHOULDN'T be, which seems to be historically a bad thing for me.
One I'm working on understanding and altering. But this study makes me wonder if it's POSSIBLE for me to alter it. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:08:52 PM | I watched the Oprah show today also.....btw, it was a re-run. I saw it the first time too. They are trying to figure out what is the human mystery.....rather than trying to analyze it.....embrace it......and the person who turns you on!! I'm still trying to find him! Com' mer....let me sniff, listen, and rate your kisses! 
BTW....Brad Pitt had the highest rating, in the scientific findings, of having the most near perfect face amoung all the men tested! Surprise, surprise! | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:09:02 PM |
Also mankinds greatest social invention- booze- has much bearing on mating. It has launched more relationships than Oscar Meyer has weiners. Get those inhibitions down and get it on baby!
Cute. Kind of like that 'Seinfeld' episode where Elaine asks Jerry "So how do you explain how all these people are hooking up all over the place?" and his answer is "Alcohol".
I don't watch Oprah, but I did catch parts of that Science of Sex series on Discovery...pretty interesting, actually.
For me, OP, I don't think I could narrow it down to just one of the options outlined in the O-post as taking precedence. After all, we've all probably known men or women in our lives who are really very handsome or beautiful...but for whatever reason, they just don't "do it" for us.
I'd have to say that a man's energy, the energy he gives off, and if the energy I give off meshes well with his, is key. I don't necessarily mean just sexual energy, although that would certainly be a part of it, but just energy and his aura in general, that would attract me. When that's a perfect fit, and everything's sympatico? It's a very peaceful feeling. JMO. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:10:06 PM | Jerry Springer is best.
People have a good scrap and get all their agression and hate out.
Then they chat and sort things out.
If you want to be put off marriage/relationships for life then watch 20 episodes of Jerry Springer ! | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:11:17 PM | | This sounds like it was a very interesting show. For me, the first thing that grabs me once face to face with a guy is vocal pitch. I have a musical ear (la la la - that sounds strange, doesn't it?), so if the guy's voice is too high or whatever, I just find myself not interested. For example: James Earl Jones and Sean Connery - very different men and both very attractive (to me anyway) because of their voices. Love to hear a sexy voice rumble in my ear! | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:14:14 PM | Sometimes, I can smell a great catch. Especially if is wearing Givenchy's Very Irrististible for Men. Oh man, that's freaking catnip for me! I am always turned on by a man who smells great. Esp when sparring in Judo and Jujitsu, yum...
I rarely pick guys who are the stereotypical bad boy, but I do repeatedly pick strongwilled men in both mind and body.   | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:15:44 PM | I thought it was also very interesting that a woman's immune system plays such a significant role in the attraction of a male.
Of course they related this to men seeking a healthy female to "seed" for repopulation purposes....
But what does that say about women who are alone or single their whole lives? Spinsters are spinsters because they're not healthy? Most spinsters live to be like 2,000 don't they? | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:15:52 PM |
Often I'm turned on by the men I SHOULDN'T be, which seems to be historically a bad thing for me.
And when you find your way out of this conundrum, please let me know. I will anxiously be waiting with pen and paper... | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:16:04 PM | WOW, only 5? which one of the others should I dump? Well, a bad kiss or two would be hard to take.
Since I never watch Oprah, isn't she the same one who brought us Steve Harvey? And all those Dieticians.
I have my own pulse points,thanks, but I'll stick with my own.
As far as ovulation goes...well my sense of smell isn't that great, but I can usually tell simply byt their actions!
Conscious choice for selection. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:43:45 PM |
Unexpected factors—like smell, facial symmetry, voice pitch, financial stability and kissing prowess...
Oprah daaaahhling, these are unexpected factors?
Everything old is newly discovered again. Otherwise you couldn't sell daytime TV and women's magazines. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2009 4:44:16 PM | I'd have to say that a man's energy, the energy he gives off, and if the energy I give off meshes well with his, is key. I don't necessarily mean just sexual energy, although that would certainly be a part of it, but just energy and his aura in general, that would attract me. When that's a perfect fit, and everything's sympatico? It's a very peaceful feeling
Spot on Sweetness!
"when that's a perfect fit".......when the void is filled.
"It's a peaceful feeling"......Familiarity is comforting. | |
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