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 Bluesman2008
Joined: 4/2/2008
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As I said before, I will NOT be having any swine flu vaccine now or ever. I wonder how long it will take the government to recall this "vaccine".


A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter.

The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.

It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine.

GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.

The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications.


The rest of the story is here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html

Stay healthy folks......
 monalee1
Joined: 10/22/2007
Msg: 2
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Posted: 8/15/2009 6:40:40 PM
hi... exactly... so many innocent people are going to get sick from the fear of possibly getting sick... no vaccines of any kind ever... making good choices in regards to health and nutrition is very powerful, more than a potion... many blessings
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Posted: 8/15/2009 8:05:23 PM
If youre middle aged or older you probably dont need to. the virus likes younger people, pregnant lady,s and kids.
Of course if swine flu stays pretty much benign then the vaccine would be an option. but if it mutates and starts killing kids and pregnant mothers..... how many vitamins should we take? or maybe use ear candles? or drink urine? or how big a prayer circle?
 Scints
Joined: 6/11/2009
Msg: 4
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Posted: 8/16/2009 2:44:06 AM
I can see the deleters out in force. Maybe this should have been added to the other swine flu thread, but in reality people will probably skim through the old thread and not look at what is blindingly obvious.

The vaccine is not safe, has not been tested. If the 76 swine flu jab is anything to go by then there will be a lot more people dying from the jab than from swine flu. Hundreds of people got GBS from the vaccine. It's not something to be ignored.

The vaccine will contain swine flu in small amounts as we know, but once it is in your system it offers a nice resting area to mutate with whatever the next form will be, and voila, a major pandemic which will kill billions could occur.

I would suggest getting your vitamin D from sunshine or pills, then lead a healthy life style and wait for it to pass.

No vaccine for me thankyou.
 yna6
Joined: 1/21/2007
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Posted: 8/17/2009 7:55:07 PM
I would suggest to listen carefully to the fear mongers and get the dang shot if you are older, working with older people, are suseptable to flu, whatever reason you choose.
Not getting a shot means you "could" get it.
Sure...there WILL be a few who have side effects, perhaps even death. But the majority will NOT be affected adversly.
If we avoided every frigging thing that "could" harm us, we'd lock ourselves away in our homes and rasie bean sprouts on the windowsills!
Stop being doubtful and thinking "the shot could kill me!" The better odds are that lack of the shot will be fatal to you!
Also, those who do not get their shot are great vectors for spreading the flu...perhaps they should be sued for doing so. Their foolishness puts others at risk...avoid this kind of person IF you can....
 Cyke
Joined: 3/25/2009
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:18:40 PM

how big a prayer circle?

If we could just get everybody in America to link up in a prayer circle we could probably annoy god enough that he would do away with all diseases just to stop the noise. I'm sure he hears every prayer but it's like a whisper, where as if a couple hundred million people pray the same thing at the same time, it would probably have his omnipotent ears ringing. Ya think?
 JustDukky
Joined: 7/8/2004
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:33:06 PM

If we avoided every frigging thing that "could" harm us, we'd lock ourselves away in our homes and rasie bean sprouts on the windowsills!

How did you find out about that? I only unlock & step outside for the odd cigarette and maybe a few cases of beer.


Ya think?

I think God is not only deaf, but quite dumb too. Why doesn't He have email yet?
 Settleforthis
Joined: 12/7/2007
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Posted: 8/18/2009 7:33:28 AM
^ He does have email, but his spam filter is set to maximum.
 Twister239
Joined: 6/21/2009
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Posted: 8/25/2009 7:54:16 PM
From Reuters

"Once ready, it takes approximately a month for vaccine to both be placed in vials and then for the needed testing to be completed before the vaccine is ready to use."

gee...do they really need to do alllllll that testing....still ?


The agency plans to eventually vaccinate at least 160 million people by December, with pregnant women, healthcare workers, children and young adults at the front of the line.

Plans of mass injections of something that is still being tested
wouldnt that be a kick in the gut if 6 months down the road
they find out the testing was wrong because they rushed it
and it gave people a life span of one year......
"oppps....sorry folks , you have our deepest ,must humble appology"
..now back to our regular schedual program...
This is scary stuff that leave a person with only 2 choices
either you take the jab...or you dont
no shades of gray here folks.



http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKTRE57N3ZH20090824
 bedlog
Joined: 1/25/2006
Msg: 10
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Posted: 8/25/2009 9:35:54 PM
I definitely won't get involved with the swine flu vaccine. I feel that the people who take it are risking more than they bargained for. I'm not a conspiracist or paranoid but the government seems to be pushing this vaccine way too fast in my opinion. Common sense will beat this flu, wash your hands each and every time, cover your mouth when you sneeze, cough and/or hack. Wash your fruit and veggies. There's no need to freak out.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
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Posted: 8/25/2009 10:02:35 PM
^


Common sense will beat this flu, wash your hands each and every time, cover your mouth when you sneeze, cough and/or hack. Wash your fruit and veggies. There's no need to freak out.


to say that doing all the ^ above will help you from getting the SF in a massive epidemic is simplistic (at best) and completely naive (at worst).

if an epidemic breaks out, about 1 in 3 N. americans will come down with the SF, and there may be as many as 100,000 deaths in a year's time (regular Flu kills about 25,000/yr).

unfortunately we will only know in retrospect whether is was wise to be vaccinated or not!
 Alli_oop
Joined: 6/30/2009
Msg: 12
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Posted: 8/25/2009 10:20:17 PM
think god gets spam for knock-off Cialis?

I don't think canada's even starting to test the h1n1 vaccine until late september. by then half the country will be dead, right? ;)

I dunno, not going with the hype though. The place i help out at will probably have the regular flu shot.
I havent had a flu shot in about 15 years, watch me get a whopper of a flu if i get it. i didnt get the shot last year i was there.
 farsunset
Joined: 12/1/2008
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Posted: 8/26/2009 12:13:56 AM
As with many things in life, getting any vaccine is a calculated risk.
The fact is that the vast majority of people who will recieve this vaccine
will be protected from a potentially lethal flu, and wont suffer any ill effects.
Will it kill a very small fraction of the people who get it, probably.
The same goes for any risky actions, swimming in the ocean, riding in a car, flying etc.
The parent of child has 2 options. Either take the very slim chance of your child being damaged by the vaccine, or take the chance of watching your child die from the flu.
I would not want to bear the parent who had to face the latter.
 Funcuz
Joined: 1/16/2009
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Posted: 8/26/2009 1:56:32 AM
How ironic...a thread dedicated to raising awareness of the potential harm people face if they get a flu vaccination but not a word is written on the far more likely possibility of harm (even death) coming from NOT getting said shot. To think that this seems reasonable to some people is actually a scary thought. Betrays the motivation for starting the thread in the first place but meh....it figures.

Keep your helmets on tight conspiracy theory junkies...the sky is falling !
 nevaagin
Joined: 4/8/2009
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Posted: 8/26/2009 2:42:41 AM
I don't want to discourage people ... think it out for yourselves ! But I have never had a flu shot and I don't intend to have one . I have had the 'flu and pneumonia but i'm still standing and after my ex-husband told me he nearly died after a flu vaccination ... he has had heart bypass operation and is still going strong .. well after that info. I will not have a shot against the flu . Maybe I'll be one of the 'victims' but man will I fight not to be ! er , a victim I mean ...oops .
 farceur
Joined: 5/3/2009
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Posted: 8/26/2009 6:02:39 AM
Base your decision of information instead of ignorance. Do your homework.

What is the risk of each option? Compare the risks. Consider the option with less risk. Until you have evaluated the options objectively your decision is a poorly informed guess. A well informed guess works better.
 desertrhino
Joined: 11/30/2007
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Posted: 8/26/2009 3:08:40 PM
I'll be getting the vaccination. It is going to be provided by my employer. As "essential personnel," we are not required, but are very strongly encouraged, to take whatever preventative measures we can.
 Bluesman2008
Joined: 4/2/2008
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Posted: 8/26/2009 5:22:41 PM
When several neurologists and neurosurgeons go public warning against this vaccine (causing neurological disorders) that's more than enough for me. When is the last time you heard of physicians coming forward and warning about the known side effects of this swine flu vaccine? So if you get the shot, good luck with that. I've never had a flu shot in my life and don't plan on starting any time soon.


A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter.

The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.

It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine.

GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.

The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications.

It refers to the use of a similar swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 when:

* More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu.
* 500 cases of GBS were detected.
* The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times.
* The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear.
* The US Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected.


Read the whole article here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html


Facts about swine flu and the current swine flu A (H1N1) oubreak include:

* The last swine flu outbreak occurred in February 1976 in Fort Dix, New Jersey, causing 4 soldiers to get sick and 1 death.
* A swine flu vaccine was given to people from October 1976 to December 1976 in response to the swine flu cases at Fort Dix. A swine flu pandemic never occurred though, and the swine flu vaccine was thought to cause many side effects, including Guillain-Barre syndrome. The vaccination program ended early because those side effects were thought to be worse than the risk of getting swine flu.


http://pediatrics.about.com/od/swineflu/a/409_myths_facts.htm



Doctors told to watch for Guillain-Barre syndrome during Swine flu vaccination programme
Doctors are being urged to watch for cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare nerve disorder, as the new swine flu vaccine is introduced in October.

By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor
Published: 2:38PM BST 16 Aug 2009

Guillain-Barre syndrome which attacks the nervous system and can cause paralysis and death is linked to infections like flu but it has also been suggested a previous swine flu vaccine had caused cases of the disease in America in the 1970s.

American officials rushed out a vaccine in 1976 following an outbreak of swine flu in military barracks. Around 40million people received the vaccine but doctors reported an increase Guillain-Barre and 25 people had died before the immunisation programme was stopped.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6038460/Doctors-told-to-watch-for-Guillain-Barre-syndrome-during-Swine-flu-vaccination-programme.html

But hey, if you trust your government to give you the straight dope (pardon the pun) feel free to go for it. Can you say "thalidiomide"?
 stargazer1000
Joined: 1/16/2008
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Posted: 8/26/2009 5:34:53 PM
Maybe the 1917-18 Spanish flu outbreak was a government conspiracy. Or maybe it's God's wrath against the wicked.

Hey, if you don't have to take the H1N1 vaccine, then don't. It's your right to say no. However, if you work in the medical field, or other areas where it might be considered necessary, then you're going to have a tough choice to make.

Somehow, though, if you do get sick, I only hope you get over it quick. Somehow, I don't think any amount of singing Coombayah (sp?) is going to do much good.
 Bluesman2008
Joined: 4/2/2008
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Posted: 8/26/2009 5:47:25 PM

Maybe the 1917-18 Spanish flu outbreak was a government conspiracy.


I'm not saying it was a conspiracy. I'm saying the government is too quick to get this vaccine to market without proper testing. They haven't even started human clinical trials yet.
 Twister239
Joined: 6/21/2009
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Posted: 8/27/2009 1:04:40 PM

In a study that polled 2,255 Hong Kong health workers this year, researchers found even during the height of global swine flu panic in May, less than half were willing to get vaccinated.



Researchers at the University of Hong Kong surveyed doctors and nurses in public hospitals this year from January to May, asking them if they would get a pandemic vaccine based either on bird flu or swine flu. About 35 per cent of health workers were willing to get a bird flu vaccine, versus 48 per cent for swine flu.



Most said they would pass on the swine flu shot, which is not yet available, because they were afraid of side effects and doubted how safe and effective it would be.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090825/health/health_eu_med_swine_flu_vaccine_refusal

People all over the globe have mixed feelings about the jab
I hope people really think this over before rolling up the sleeve
If you have kids ...PLEASE ...research this to death before making a decision
one way or the other...you NEED to know as much as possible about this.

 Natasah
Joined: 4/26/2009
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Posted: 8/29/2009 10:24:59 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2009/s2602389.htm



or if you don't trust the jab.
http://www.oxysilver.com/index.asp

Just read this first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria
 runner0009
Joined: 9/6/2009
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Posted: 9/14/2009 2:35:59 PM
Surprise to me to learn we had a 'swine flu' panic back in 1976 and things haven't changed for the better.

This 60 Minutes expose on it is only around 20 minutes long, but very interesting about how the flu shot back then was causing paralysis.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9mh9f_swine-flu-1976-propaganda_we

Then things don't get any better as they are finding the new flu shot is linked to neurological problems...

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/01/Swine-Flu-Shot-Linked-to-Killer-Nerve-Disease.aspx
 TheDao
Joined: 8/1/2009
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Posted: 9/14/2009 7:42:12 PM
In Canada they (goverment) are asking for young people to "test" the swine flu vaccine.
You couldn't pay me enough money to test it.
If it's safe then why do they want to test it?

If you want to fight swine flu get enough vitamin D.
Eat healthy
Consume fermented food.
 robertbwell
Joined: 9/11/2009
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Posted: 9/14/2009 8:08:15 PM
They are doing that here, too. On craigslist none the less...
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